johnnyblaze

I'm all N/A. Just every bolt-on you can buy for the C63.

Hotsoss

Yeah, I agree. The V is a little heavy and could stand to loose a few pounds.

urbamworm

AKNIGHT, I don't know about all of that unless you are talking a built block, cnc ported heads, built tranny, upgraded 3 liter from "stage 1" 2.3 blower etc "stage 3" C63 with what $20k in mods?

But if we are going to go there I could EASILY find a V that will beat that car too. Hell there is a guy in south Florida who switched to E85 and on stock block with ported heads, the 1.9 liter stock blower and stock tranny ran comfortably in to the 9s (not a 9.99) at over 140mph.

urbamworm

An "HPE 650" is like a bottom of the barrel modded V that is just an overpriced "upgrade" package.

We are talking a $140 supercharger pulley and $300-400 tune and $300 air intake and if you want to add the heat exchanger another few hundred bucks. So less than $1000 in mods. While it will be quick for sure that isn't even close to a "fast" V. That is a "slow" if you can call it that one.

AMG E Power

not necessary, Jrcarts c63amg black, probably traps 140 and the internals come forged already from amg so he just has a 3L blower on his stock motor
making anywhere from 660-675whp

urbamworm

Are you talking about a brand new C63? I am talking about like 2007+ models or whatever it is that Weistec made the 2.3 blower for. And then JrCart who was the fastest guy out there was running ported heads, etc with that blower on race gas (maybe race tune also?) with skinnies, and drag setup and doing bests of high 10s at 130 which boat loads of CTS-Vs do all day long while on 93 octane on regular stock 19s on stock engine/heads/etc.

His Black Series also has all the bells and whistles though ($5000 ported heads, etc) on top of the $16,000 supercharger.

AMG E Power

new c63 or old both the same engine, he makes that power on pump gas and I think his best time is 10.2or10.1 and trap is close to 140. I know forsure the engine is stock. ported heads maybe ? perhaps he can chime in

urbamworm

I think I am getting confused on his mods with him having a CLK 63 Black and a C63 Black. But pretty sure both are stage 3 Weistec, but not sure exactly what that entails other than the obvious 3 liter blower. I swear I remember back a year or so ago ready or watching video of his C63 and it had ported heads and all that jazz. Which like I said, the Weistec heads and stage 3 blower setup is over $20k in mods for just those two things.

I just did some quick searching though and with quotes like this coming from him I am pretty sure I am right, he has everything possible on his C63

AMG E Power

ya think you are right, he does have it all on c63amg black but the motor is not built its stock

urbamworm

I also read the stage 3 supercharger needs their built tranny upgrade which is another $5k (this is for cars 2007-2011), so we are talking $16k for supercharger, $5k for tranny and $5k for heads, so $25k in mods, his is a 2012 so take away the tranny (Weistec said it is needed for anything over their 769hp "stage 3" blower setup and I now read he thinks they are leaving his stock for now when he had the work done). Oh wait, don't forget you need a full headers/exhaust to run the stage 3 blower setup so there goes another few thousand

AMG E Power

Ya pricey for sure ! But u can always work deals out meaning u don't
Pay what the website says. I have a friend right now getting ported heads
And cam for 6000 from weistec on his N/a e63 amg.

urbamworm

Ported heads with cam setup for $6k is a deal? haha I can get good ported heads for the V with springs, etc for under $2k and cam for like $400 or sick ported heads with internals for the V for $2500-3000.

AMG E Power

Lol for and Amg it's a deal don't rub it in u get go fast parts for super cheap

Hotsoss

Also don't forget the V parts are no less quality then the AMG pieces. It just cost less since there are so many iterations of the LSX motor. If Benz put the 6.2 in regular cars for years it would be significantly less expensive as well. With most German parts you are essentially paying a premium for all the engineering and time it took figuring out a good port and cam specs for that engine. There aren't as many consumers for those parts so they make the Custer pay outrageous prices. With that said there are also many companies that rape German enthusiast since there as many options and they know enthusiast will dish out the dough.

AMG E Power

I agree, maybe 3-5% of all Mercedes Benz owners mod they're car let alone AMG owners

Hotsoss

Exactly! It just seems like a lot of Benz owners soup up their cars because we belong to a forum that pool enthusiast. The regular car owner don't understand our passion and would never pay what we pay to make a car like the E55k any faster.

HeissRod

Which in turn makes us unique from the other 97% of the populace

Hotsoss

Your exactly right.

Ezec63

Was the 2012 C63 a metallic blue/black sedan with a loud exhaust? If so I'll tell ya what he's got under the hood. What mods do you have?

Ezec63

Weistec makes cams for the m156? I'm not aware of this at all I've been on the lookout for cams and the only company doing it is mhp which Is a black hole of a company. Can you get info on the cams I'm very interested

Ezec63

Yes the newer 2012+ cars with Mct can handle around 700 wheel hp on the stock trans. Jrcarts c63 bs only has the stage 3+ headers and it puts down about 670 whp on 93 octane. His clk63 bs is the big dog with the heads/internals/etc and according to him they now have it up to 1,100 whp while there are lsx with more power you have to admit that's awesome and shows what a great engine the m156 is. Earl Campbell ran a 10.01 @144 that trap should show 9's so traction is obviously an issue. They now have more power and a new suspension setup so hopefully we see some new records this season

60nomad

I can clearly vouch for this statement as my car has exactly that stuff done and it cost me a whopping $1200 to have it done! lol...not considered a fast V by any means! If you do the math with my dyno runs and deduct the 20% drivetrain loss with auto trans., I am at about 650hp on the head... for $1200... LMAO

Another $1500 or so and that jumps to about 730hp and then we get to about 600hp to the wheel...add E85 tune for pennies more and 640hp the wheels! In short, you ran a very lightly modded V!

AMG E Power

Give weistec a call

Ezec63

I talked with the c63 owner that confirmed the story. He's got a Eurocharge tune, evosport under drive pulley, filters, and custom 3 inch exhaust from the stock manifold back with an x pipe. No headers so probably a 460 wheel hp c63 you ran. Lighter weight and trans kept it in the game the V is def throwing down more power

60nomad

The exhaust sounded awesome...maybe a little loud for my taste but sounded great! Without going back to my first post I think I mentioned that my friend has a 2013 c63 with only a tune and it went 11.93 @ like 118mph. I will find out exactly but I thought that was pretty good. If not here then I mentioned it somewhere on the forum.