E55 Vs. 2013 Mustang GT 5.0
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: Queens,NY
E55 AMG
E55 Vs. 2013 Mustang GT 5.0
I was on my way to pick up the EC 180mm pulley kit that was bought from a member here.I was doing 60-70mph on Taconic parkway I see a nice 2013 Mustang GT 5.0 come besides me loud exhaust lowered to the floor.The car actually looked really nice for a mustang.He floors it, I reeled him in immediately by 145mph I pulled 5-6cars.Give me high beems and take the exit.I would really like to run a 2013 GT500 with some more mods that I plan to do.Stock GT500's do 12.0 at 120mph even though on dyno they put down 600whp on dyno.Any of you guys ran a 2013 GT500 ?
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,509
Likes: 1,513
From: Orbiting the planet
This place is a joke.
I haven't been beaten by a Mustang at the track yet..Yes there are fast ones out there but at the track you mostly never see them. I beat a couple year old GT500 on drag radials, a handful of I don't-know-whatstangs (I just can't keep up with all the different models, and they all look alike to me) and a newer 5.0 that I was told has a lot of work done to it..LOL....as we lined up the announcer said to watch this Mustang it's pretty fast, not a word about my 4 door Benz...This was my 11.75 pass and the 5.0 ran a low-mid 12, spinning a lot on drag radials but trapped a 119xx right with my 119.5... I could tell the guy was pissed as we stopped by the timing booth, he went and hot lapped again but that was my last run of the night. All the BS and all the dyno #'s are out the window, and the real world is at the track....All the HP in the world doesn't mean much if you can't put it to the ground. Something about our car's torque band, and traction once it hooks, beat a lot of higher HP and lighter cars at the track. At least that's been my experience. Roll racing on the highway is different though. For real though, for a TRUE street car that you could drive across country if you wanted, a modded E55 is quite impressive.
Last edited by E55Greasemonkey; Sep 22, 2013 at 07:28 PM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,509
Likes: 1,513
From: Orbiting the planet
This place is a joke.
I wonder what the real world numbers are, accounting for the driver and weather conditions. Maybe I'll get lucky and see one at the track this winter.
Here's one running in S. Florida, real world.
Here's one running in S. Florida, real world.
Last edited by E55Greasemonkey; Sep 22, 2013 at 11:34 PM.
Member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 147
Likes: 2
From: Lubbock,TX
2006 E55 AMG
I met a convertible 5.0 at a stop light, guy was probably early-mid 40's... car looked good and probably had a cat-back exhaust as it sounded pretty mean. As the light when green we both launched and after running to about 85 between lights I would say I probably had 3-3.5 cars on him. He could have spun a little, I don't know but that's my only experience with a 5.0. 
Member
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 223
Likes: 7
2008 GL550
All the BS and all the dyno #'s are out the window, and the real world is at the track....All the HP in the world doesn't mean much if you can't put it to the ground.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,212
Likes: 228
From: Norther CA
2014 cls63 a amg. 2018 AMG GTR
Here is a good example GT500 . Same car , same driver, same track, same day. First time at track with street tires. 1st run 12.79@114.5 MPH VS 2nd run 12.15@123.8 MPH. Better driver would have gotten it well into 11s and trapped at least a few MPH more. Imagine what a good driver and DRs would do for those times. I imagine they could hit 10s bone stock. Most mags testing them had them trapping 126-128 MPH. So "real world" drivers can make any potentially fast car run mediocre times.
Looking into this lead me to a Vette Forum and I bone stock ZR1s are running 10.2s @135 MPH with DRs only ...... Damn .
Looking into this lead me to a Vette Forum and I bone stock ZR1s are running 10.2s @135 MPH with DRs only ...... Damn .
Last edited by dllhg; Sep 23, 2013 at 12:35 PM.
Trending Topics
Member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 147
Likes: 2
From: Lubbock,TX
2006 E55 AMG
On the subject of the Zr1's I don't know if there is a better car out there for the money, used. Recently saw one for 78k at a stealership with 10k miles on it. And as stated before 10.2's with Dr's... amazing
Moving to the '13 GT500's I was at the track watching two of them go at it...one posted a 13.1 and the other a 14.0.. Show's how much effect the driver has on those cars and preventing as much spinning as possible as well as launching them.
Moving to the '13 GT500's I was at the track watching two of them go at it...one posted a 13.1 and the other a 14.0.. Show's how much effect the driver has on those cars and preventing as much spinning as possible as well as launching them.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
Super Member
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 594
Likes: 8
05 E55, 06 Audi S4
I was on my way to pick up the EC 180mm pulley kit that was bought from a member here.I was doing 60-70mph on Taconic parkway I see a nice 2013 Mustang GT 5.0 come besides me loud exhaust lowered to the floor.The car actually looked really nice for a mustang.He floors it, I reeled him in immediately by 145mph I pulled 5-6cars.Give me high beems and take the exit.I would really like to run a 2013 GT500 with some more mods that I plan to do.Stock GT500's do 12.0 at 120mph even though on dyno they put down 600whp on dyno.Any of you guys ran a 2013 GT500 ?
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,596
Likes: 5
From: Jacksonville, FL
05 White Pano E55, Cadillac CTS-V
I ran a 2014 GT from a dig in my E55. It had skinnies up front and drag radials on the back with aftermarket 16 or 17" wheels. It was auto and it had a tune and a few other things getting it ready for a turbo setup they were doing that I am not sure would help or hurt it in its current state when we ran. Those were a Boss 302 intake manifold, a different driveshaft and torque converter. The car ran 11.9@116 at the track a few weeks before we ran on the street and they said it dynode 390whp.
We were side by side until about 105 and then it went to my bumper at their door then at about 115-120 they were me at their rear bumper.
My car had nothing special going on, just like pictured in my sig with my 20" Vossens and both cars had a passenger. I had 2 GoPros in the back seat, not sure why we didn't set them up.
We were side by side until about 105 and then it went to my bumper at their door then at about 115-120 they were me at their rear bumper.
My car had nothing special going on, just like pictured in my sig with my 20" Vossens and both cars had a passenger. I had 2 GoPros in the back seat, not sure why we didn't set them up.
Member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 147
Likes: 2
From: Lubbock,TX
2006 E55 AMG
From what I've seen over at SVTPerformance most 5.0's with bolt on's like urbamworm stated such as boss manifold,tune,etc. are running low 12's some lucky ones at high 11's although as stated it doesn't matter much until you run them for real, anything could happen.
Super Member
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 503
Likes: 3
From: Houston, TX
W211 E55
I have ran three different 5.0s with one being right on my bumper and the others being a car or more back. All were done from a 40 roll (passenger in my car) with similar mods for each (intake tune and exhaust). The driver definitely makes all the difference with these cars.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,762
Likes: 1
From: Queens, NY
04 w211 E55
Nice kill. I'm from queens also! We're driving to Mexico Tom for some runs vs some modded e60 m5's, a tune/pulley V, a 498whp m6 tune/headers. Let me know if you're interested bro!
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 2
From: L.I. NY
2011 CTSV auto, 06 E55 white pano, 87 Grand national, 63 split window
Gonna be tough David without the drag radial in this weather. It spins badly at 40mph. Can't put the tire on till the next dyno tune. No excuses though...I'm ready. Like to do 50mph roll just to see pulling power to try and keep the spin to a minimum. Maybe I will bring a passenger to relieve it a little. I'm 275lbs but that just isn't enough!
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,659
Likes: 67
From: Atlanta
2006 E55 AMG
Me vs a ZR1
On a side note, the auto 5.0's when setup right are deep into the 11's on svtperformance. Throw some sauce or a blower on there, or turbo and they are deep into the 10's. Best mustang motor ever made.
On a side note, the auto 5.0's when setup right are deep into the 11's on svtperformance. Throw some sauce or a blower on there, or turbo and they are deep into the 10's. Best mustang motor ever made.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 2
From: L.I. NY
2011 CTSV auto, 06 E55 white pano, 87 Grand national, 63 split window
Earlier in this thread it says the ZR1's are going 10.20's and it seemed a little crazy...no 11.94 'bad' run is equating to 10.20's on DR's...and 126mph? Maybe I am still wrong but it seems a lil too fast! Same with the mustang...seems a bit too fast. I know they run pretty good now but the times mentioned earlier.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,159
Likes: 160
2006 E55
My neighbor has a modded ZR1 (don't know exactly what is done, but the car is definitely modded). He gets almost ZERO traction below 50mph , especially with the cooler weather, but with DRs, the car is downright nasty. I've seen his timeslips and with street tires, he is still hitting high 10s spinning a good bit down the track. He hasn't run with DRs, but I would guess 9s aren't difficult to achieve with a stellar launch. He has taken down well-ridden litre bikes.
I have only seen a few 13 GT500s at the track, most are hitting low 11s, but the mph is 125+ in stock trim. Drag racing isn't the easiest sport, especially when cars like these two have so much power and getting it to the ground can get tricky.
For instance, I'm the worst drag racer, you put me in the GT500 or ZR1 and I'll probably run 12s all day long haha.
Guys like 'Ranger' and some other Vette guys who are damn near professioal draggers can run abnormal times, but that is probably less than 1% of the Vette owners out there (Ranger took a stock C6 Z06 to 10.8s with street tires, for example). NOT COMMON THOUGH.
I have only seen a few 13 GT500s at the track, most are hitting low 11s, but the mph is 125+ in stock trim. Drag racing isn't the easiest sport, especially when cars like these two have so much power and getting it to the ground can get tricky.
For instance, I'm the worst drag racer, you put me in the GT500 or ZR1 and I'll probably run 12s all day long haha.
Guys like 'Ranger' and some other Vette guys who are damn near professioal draggers can run abnormal times, but that is probably less than 1% of the Vette owners out there (Ranger took a stock C6 Z06 to 10.8s with street tires, for example). NOT COMMON THOUGH.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,596
Likes: 5
From: Jacksonville, FL
05 White Pano E55, Cadillac CTS-V
^^ Correct, and it was in a -1300 DA.
Copied from his Dragtimes listing:
Car is bone-stock except on these passes it wore DOT drag radial tires.
Other passes in the series were
10.85 129.21
10.87 130.09
10.81 130.39 then
10.74 129.50
Video of the 10.74 is here:
This guy here did a 10.98@128 bones stock with street tires though. But it was also at MIR in a -1250 DA.
Copied from his listing:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-14084.html
Quickest Bone stock Z06 to date. Run done on stock radial street tires. Video shows a slightly quicker run that was done with drag radials.
Time recorded 11:52 AM
Temperature °F 45.0
Dew Point °F 12.0
Altimeter Setting 30.32 Inches Mercury
Absolute Pressure: 30.24 Inches
Density Altitude: -1253.7 feet
Track Elelvation: 80 feet
Copied from his Dragtimes listing:
Car is bone-stock except on these passes it wore DOT drag radial tires.
Other passes in the series were
10.85 129.21
10.87 130.09
10.81 130.39 then
10.74 129.50
Video of the 10.74 is here:
This guy here did a 10.98@128 bones stock with street tires though. But it was also at MIR in a -1250 DA.
Copied from his listing:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-14084.html
Quickest Bone stock Z06 to date. Run done on stock radial street tires. Video shows a slightly quicker run that was done with drag radials.
Time recorded 11:52 AM
Temperature °F 45.0
Dew Point °F 12.0
Altimeter Setting 30.32 Inches Mercury
Absolute Pressure: 30.24 Inches
Density Altitude: -1253.7 feet
Track Elelvation: 80 feet
Last edited by urbamworm; Sep 24, 2013 at 03:07 PM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,159
Likes: 160
2006 E55
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,596
Likes: 5
From: Jacksonville, FL
05 White Pano E55, Cadillac CTS-V
Most stick shift cars aren't driven good. At the track they can't launch good or they shift to early or they get all over the place shifting breaking it loose, etc.
For example, There isn't one single 09+ CTS-V in the 10s that is a manual but there are over 20 autos in the 10s (me being one of them) and even a handful in the 9s as well.
For example, There isn't one single 09+ CTS-V in the 10s that is a manual but there are over 20 autos in the 10s (me being one of them) and even a handful in the 9s as well.
