W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 05:29 AM
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To all who have the Torque PRO Android APP.

Good day all,

Sorry for posting in this forum, its just you E55 guys seem a little more active than the CLS forum

My question is, for those of you with the Torque PRO app, what boost are you achieving in your stock form or with the Super charger clutched pulley installed with reading of boost calculation method with (MAP) Default) selected in your Torque app settings. Eg, 0.4 or 0.6 bar? etc. Also if you could state your elevation that you did this check at.

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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 03:46 PM
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I guess that app not as popular as I thought. Anyway the reason for me asking is to check what actual boost is from stock cars at sea level versus what I am getting up at 5000' elevation and then what is achieved by guys with the supercharger pulley installed. I have been reading articles saying stock boost is. 11.6psi. i think that figure is a Little high. Probably more in the region of 9psi. (0.6bar) well stock my car only managed 0.4 bar (6psi) up at 5000' according to this app. After the mods belt wrap kit supercharger pulley. The. Boost increased to 0.5bar (7.2psi) so trying to figure out what my loss in boost pressure is up here.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by C32owner
I guess that app not as popular as I thought. Anyway the reason for me asking is to check what actual boost is from stock cars at sea level versus what I am getting up at 5000' elevation and then what is achieved by guys with the supercharger pulley installed. I have been reading articles saying stock boost is. 11.6psi. i think that figure is a Little high. Probably more in the region of 9psi. (0.6bar) well stock my car only managed 0.4 bar (6psi) up at 5000' according to this app. After the mods belt wrap kit supercharger pulley. The. Boost increased to 0.5bar (7.2psi) so trying to figure out what my loss in boost pressure is up here.
I have the app on my phone, always used it on my pickup truck for trans temperatures while towing. I am ashamed to say I have never plugged it into the benz. I might try soon though!
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 04:33 PM
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Cool, it's amazing how cheap that app is and gives you so much information.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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im waiting for my elm327 !!!!! cant wait to plug it !!!! i just have the free version,,,does it have iat ( charge air temp ) and boost ?
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 05:55 PM
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im waiting for my elm327 !!!!! cant wait to plug it !!!! i just have the free version,,,does it have iat ( charge air temp ) and boost ?
That's what I use as well. Works great. I don't recall what the free version offers, however the paid version most certainly has boost pressure and IAT. The only thing it can't get is the air fuel ratio. Such a bummer.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 06:06 PM
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im waiting for my elm327 !!!!! cant wait to plug it !!!! i just have the free version,,,does it have iat ( charge air temp ) and boost ?
That is the one I bought on amazon (elm327), mine hangs down off the diag port pretty low in my dodge truck..
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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hmm... wonder if it's compatible with kiwi...
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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So....what app would an iPhone owner use?
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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I am using the ELM327 and Torque Pro app. Car is totally stock aside from a pair of K&N's, S55 driver side tube, PLM Heat Exchanger. The app will show that I hit 11 psi at wide open throttle.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by f8l ws6
I am using the ELM327 and Torque Pro app. Car is totally stock aside from a pair of K&N's, S55 driver side tube, PLM Heat Exchanger. The app will show that I hit 11 psi at wide open throttle.
I bought 2 of those ELM's and none of them are working.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
I bought 2 of those ELM's and none of them are working.
Really? I had heard some of them were unreliable. This is the one that seems to be working the best ,according the the research I did anyway, and is the one I purchased.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180831217676...84.m1497.l2649
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by f8l ws6
I am using the ELM327 and Torque Pro app. Car is totally stock aside from a pair of K&N's, S55 driver side tube, PLM Heat Exchanger. The app will show that I hit 11 psi at wide open throttle.
Hey bud thanks for that info. I take it you are near as dammit to sea level. That's nice boost you got there. So if I work backwards I was boosting at 0.4bar (6psi) I have lost 5psi boost from being at 5000' therefore you actually loose 1psi /1000' ouch.
Yeah that ELM327 is the same one I have had for about 3 years. Works a treat

Originally Posted by E55AMGGG04
I bought 2 of those ELM's and none of them are working.
When you say it's not working what's it actually doing or not doing? What phone you using? Does it at least show up when you scan your blue tooth? Is it not pairing? Not showing sensors etc.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 02:53 AM
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Before pulley but after cats removed, 11.7 psi
After pulley 13.6 psi
At sea level, maybe a few meters above.

Bluetooth elm with torque pro works quite well.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 02:59 AM
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So....what app would an iPhone owner use?
Did a bit of searching around for you, and this seems quite decent. It's called Dashcommand. https://itunes.apple.com/za/app/dash...321293183?mt=8
Just be advised you need to get a wifi obd scanner to work with I-phone. Some bluetooth restrictions it seems with i-phones.

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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by S70T5
Before pulley but after cats removed, 11.7 psi
After pulley 13.6 psi
At sea level, maybe a few meters above.

Bluetooth elm with torque pro works quite well.
Cheers bud that's exactly the gen. I was looking for. Nice so you gained 1.9psi at sea level with the upper pulley. I gained about 1.4psi up at 5k. So sounds about right
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by C32owner
Did a bit of searching around for you, and this seems quite decent. It's called Dashcommand. https://itunes.apple.com/za/app/dash...321293183?mt=8
Just be advised you need to get a wifi obd scanner to work with I-phone. Some bluetooth restrictions it seems with i-phones.

where did you see that iPhones have issues with bluetooth? The wi-fi ones are $$$ i wish i could just pick up one of these cheapo bluetooth ones..
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 09:09 PM
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I'm using torque for iPhone and wifi. The wifi was like 22$ and app $5.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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I'm using torque for iPhone and wifi. The wifi was like 22$ and app $5.
Which wifi reader do you have? iPhone correct?
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 10:13 PM
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Which wifi reader do you have? iPhone correct?
Yes iPhone. You need ELM 327 obd-2 wifi adaptor. Just App Store torque and you will find the app. Got my adaptor off eBay.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 10:54 PM
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I use the TORQUE app, showing 11.8psi @ 87F with my mods below. IAT's city stop and go = 20-25F over ambient, highway = 10F over, and lowest I ever saw was hwy cruising in a misting rain..5F over ambient
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 11:33 PM
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i am at 11.6psi @ 65f and my IAT is 160f after cruising about 45 min in 65f outside temps....

my i/c pump is dead

torque is a great app, very happy to have it

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It's a little messy and complicated ...

For Android - only bluetooth OBD 2 dongles can work. Wifi does not as far as I can find. I believe BT is bandwidth limited and so cannot really log in real time.

For iPhone - BT only works if iPhone is jailbroken.
For iPhone with Wifi - Wifi works but not on all ELM327 adapters, the key is finding which one works. Dashcommand appears to be pickier than other apps. I could not get my Dashcommand to work with my cheapo chinese adapter but app called OBDScanner could communicate but it's not a very good app.

Besides the PLX adapter if someone has another recommendation for a Wifi adapter that works with Dashcommand or Rev, that would be nice.

Originally Posted by Shifter
Yes iPhone. You need ELM 327 obd-2 wifi adaptor. Just App Store torque and you will find the app. Got my adaptor off eBay.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 11:38 PM
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Hey everyone. Just read up on this a little bit and was hoping for some clarification. I have an android based phone. What is the difference with the Kiwi Bluetooth Wireless adapter and the ELM327? Is there any differences in terms of features and functionality. They all seem to use the same app, just wondering if there is a benefit to having the Kiwi, i.e stores more data, etc.. or does the software do all that?

Sorry for the confusion, I just noticed that there is a pretty significant price difference between the two items and wondered which one made more sense. Many thanks in advance to replies.
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 12:39 AM
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