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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 01:57 AM
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Sh*t happens?

With $9K+ invested in engine performance mods and weeks of man hours spent, I crack #8 piston on a test run with @56,000 miles on the clock? Really? Having all intentions on taking the 55K mile speed record, I trash the engine 2 weeks before the race. At least I didn't pay for everything in advance and promised my kids the race. Oh, wait.........
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 01:59 AM
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 02:05 AM
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Sorry to hear that! The mileage is irrelevant though. A lean condition will crack a 1500 mile piston in the same exact fashion as a 150,000 mile one. Hopefully you get back rolling soon man.
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 02:11 AM
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dammmm that sucks :/
agreed
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 02:16 AM
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Murphy. Sorry man!
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 02:23 AM
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Sorry to hear that! The mileage is irrelevant though. A lean condition will crack a 1500 mile piston in the same exact fashion as a 150,000 mile one. Hopefully you get back rolling soon man.
It wasn't lean? The piston rings cracked and there was a hair line crack on the side of the piston. I have seen lean conditions damage before, this is not the reason.....multiple techs at Grapevine Mercedes said no signs of detenation/lean mixture present. (Cylinder wall has very little to no damage) Loss of power on high boost mixed with oil blow by was the symptoms I experienced. No knocking, no CEL with smooth acceleration and plenty of power at low and mid range.
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 06:06 AM
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so what's the plan now
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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Were you logging? Would be a learning experience to see what happened and what the ecu did
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 09:19 AM
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That's terrible, sorry man. The frustration must be unbearable. New car?
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 09:32 AM
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Were you logging? Would be a learning experience to see what happened and what the ecu did
I will have a dual wide band and two aeroforce gauges this time around. lol
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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so what's the plan now
Unless there is a engine angel that could deliver a miracle, I don't know. I might try to fix the piston with JB Weld.
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 09:41 AM
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That's terrible, sorry man. The frustration must be unbearable. New car?
Pretty bad when my 13 and 8 year olds tell me it's going to be okay as I'm sucking my thumb in a rocking fetal position. lol. Nah, I've had the bat mobile for @ 3 yrs now.
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 10:48 AM
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I will have a dual wide band and two aeroforce gauges this time around. lol
May I suggest the dashdaq with the zeitronix for logging
IMO the best to log and you can set up alarms as well
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 09:53 PM
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The actual ring cracked without taking out the upper ringland of the piston? It either got way too hot or it was lean at one point , one of those two. THat condition can cause the ring to expand too much, butting the ends together and causing the rest of the ring to bind in its groove which will then drop out the compression out of that hole until it cools off.

I'm interested to see what your techs find/think.

Also, sent you a Pm let me know if I can help.

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It wasn't lean? The piston rings cracked and there was a hair line crack on the side of the piston. I have seen lean conditions damage before, this is not the reason.....multiple techs at Grapevine Mercedes said no signs of detenation/lean mixture present. (Cylinder wall has very little to no damage) Loss of power on high boost mixed with oil blow by was the symptoms I experienced. No knocking, no CEL with smooth acceleration and plenty of power at low and mid range.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 10:04 PM
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Terrible terrible news... Sorry to hear that.

Sounds like detonation... If it wasn't heat related. Hard detonation can be like a striking the top of the piston with a hammer.

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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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Sorry to hear about this. Time to go bigger and better right
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by EREBUS
Unless there is a engine angel that could deliver a miracle, I don't know. I might try to fix the piston with JB Weld.
haha in for the DIY.

good luck, I'm sure itll all work out
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by EREBUS
It wasn't lean? The piston rings cracked and there was a hair line crack on the side of the piston. I have seen lean conditions damage before, this is not the reason.....multiple techs at Grapevine Mercedes said no signs of detenation/lean mixture present. (Cylinder wall has very little to no damage) Loss of power on high boost mixed with oil blow by was the symptoms I experienced. No knocking, no CEL with smooth acceleration and plenty of power at low and mid range.
Lucky man, could have been a lot worse. (ask me how i know).

Sorry to hear about the mishap though.

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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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Rings did not break? Top of piston looks great?
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 03:46 PM
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Rings did not break? Top of piston looks great?
Damn, worse timing bro! At least you have minimum engine damage.

I suggest you install these forged stock replacements..

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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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Whose tune was on the car?
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 04:57 PM
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Bad injector on that hole? May be worth checking.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by marcmaddox
Bad injector on that hole? May be worth checking.
The reason i ask is because i had an eerily similar experience with a boosted SBF. Ended up being a bad injector that only malfunctioned when at full pulse width with boosted fuel pressure. It caused that hole to detonate. It too had no real signs of a lean condition, it just cracked the piston between the top and second ring land.
Sorry for the bad luck. It sucks to have so much time and money invested only to have a mystery problem bring it to an abrupt hault.
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