Which to choose: meth injection or heat exchanger?
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Which to choose: meth injection or heat exchanger?
Gents,
Sorry I didn't get a chance to dyno the PLM headers like I wanted to but I had Benzworks install them plus a 180mm crank pulley, new intercooler pump and a canned OE tune. Car (CLS55) definitely feels faster and there is a noticeable difference in sound, but feels slower then my 04 E55 with EvoSport shorties+S/C pulley+can tune.
The problem is that now the car hits a wall after 2 or so hard runs which I'm guessing is due to the stock HE. For those with experience, would it more beneficial to get a meth kit installed or just get an upgraded heat exchanger instead?
TIA
Sorry I didn't get a chance to dyno the PLM headers like I wanted to but I had Benzworks install them plus a 180mm crank pulley, new intercooler pump and a canned OE tune. Car (CLS55) definitely feels faster and there is a noticeable difference in sound, but feels slower then my 04 E55 with EvoSport shorties+S/C pulley+can tune.
The problem is that now the car hits a wall after 2 or so hard runs which I'm guessing is due to the stock HE. For those with experience, would it more beneficial to get a meth kit installed or just get an upgraded heat exchanger instead?
TIA
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Gents,
Sorry I didn't get a chance to dyno the PLM headers like I wanted to but I had Benzworks install them plus a 180mm crank pulley, new intercooler pump and a canned OE tune. Car (CLS55) definitely feels faster and there is a noticeable difference in sound, but feels slower then my 04 E55 with EvoSport shorties+S/C pulley+can tune.
The problem is that now the car hits a wall after 2 or so hard runs which I'm guessing is due to the stock HE. For those with experience, would it more beneficial to get a meth kit installed or just get an upgraded heat exchanger instead?
TIA
Sorry I didn't get a chance to dyno the PLM headers like I wanted to but I had Benzworks install them plus a 180mm crank pulley, new intercooler pump and a canned OE tune. Car (CLS55) definitely feels faster and there is a noticeable difference in sound, but feels slower then my 04 E55 with EvoSport shorties+S/C pulley+can tune.
The problem is that now the car hits a wall after 2 or so hard runs which I'm guessing is due to the stock HE. For those with experience, would it more beneficial to get a meth kit installed or just get an upgraded heat exchanger instead?
TIA
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lol I deserve that. Yes a miscalculation on my part, I thought we would have had cooler weather by now and the HE could be put off till February. Guess not 
black06: no sir, just the upgraded intercooler pump
RBJ: So meth injection wouldn't be able to cancel the out the effects of the stock HE?
black06: no sir, just the upgraded intercooler pump
RBJ: So meth injection wouldn't be able to cancel the out the effects of the stock HE?
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but there's a couple guys down south (where it's hot as hell) that are running pulley, tune, HE, and pump with no issues. Just make sure you split the cooling.
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Split is certainly key.
My mods are in my sig. I had a larger HE and its still on the car but bypassed since I run a killer chiller, trunk tank and meth. Overall a good setup for street and high speed runs in Mexico.
My mods are in my sig. I had a larger HE and its still on the car but bypassed since I run a killer chiller, trunk tank and meth. Overall a good setup for street and high speed runs in Mexico.
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I am running a 180 lower and the smaller clutched pulley with split system, Johnson pump, ec he, and trunk tank and would see a peak 165 in Houston heat. That temp however still pulls timming so I added snow performance meth and now I can hot lap the car over and over and the highest I have seen is 110. To answer your question though start with the he and do some logginging to see where you are at.
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Thank you for the suggestions gents, I actually found a brand new Snow Performance stage 3 meth kit locally for cheap which is another reason why I wanted to hold off on the heat exchanger. The results sound fantastic from the meth, so I'll have them do that plus the split while it's in the shop.
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Meth takes some managment to tune and manage but is a nice set up, if you dont mind the extra work. If you do an H/E, you might as well do the whole system with duel pumps, trunk tank , h/e and split system. Most of us start with an H/E but then the addiction keeps us adding, so easier to just do the whole system now
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CL55 UPD Cold Air Boost kit, UPD 3000 stall converter, UPD 77mm SC clutched pulley and beltwrap kit, Custom long tubes, UPD crank pulley , UPD suspension kit, UPD SC pulley, Aux. HE, Trunk tank w/rule 2000 pump, Mezeire pump, UPD 5pc idler set, Aluminum rotor hats.
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If you're just running basic bolt-ons, stick with the h/e. No tuning, no maintenance, and unless you're racing longer than the 1/4 mile, it will keep you cool enough for your needs.
