Question for those who have a sports car
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Question for those who have a sports car
I have been very keen on getting an E63 for a while now and they are becoming affordable for me. However I also enjoy throwing a car around a winding mountain road which the E63 is not really so suitable for (neither is my CLK for that matter, my old 350z certainly was). In reality most of my driving is around town and there is not a lot of hard cornering to be had on long trips.
I know a lot of people here have weekend cars, 2 seaters etc as well as their E55/63. If you had to pick one car only which would you go for? The brute force amg accelation or something a little smaller and more nimble assuming number of seats and boot space is not an issue?
Acceleration you can enjoy at every intersection and on the highway but traffic usually ruins any chance of making every round-about into a themepark and the opportunity to blast through a canyon doesn't come around very often.
I know a lot of people here have weekend cars, 2 seaters etc as well as their E55/63. If you had to pick one car only which would you go for? The brute force amg accelation or something a little smaller and more nimble assuming number of seats and boot space is not an issue?
Acceleration you can enjoy at every intersection and on the highway but traffic usually ruins any chance of making every round-about into a themepark and the opportunity to blast through a canyon doesn't come around very often.
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I don't exactly have a pure/true sports car, but I'm more of a driving enthusiast than a straight line speed guy. The E55 is the perfect commuter and daily driver, IMO. Swaths of luxury, comfort, and more power than you could possibly use.
Luckily, I have my highly modified E39 M5 to satisfy my purist needs of canyon carving, strong chassis feedback, lateral road holding, and that irreplaceable 3rd pedal
If I had to choose one, I'd keep the M by miles even though the AMG is a great car in it's own right. I'm a purist and driving enthusiast at heart, not a drag racing junkie. Thankfully I am fortunate enough to own the best of both worlds.
Luckily, I have my highly modified E39 M5 to satisfy my purist needs of canyon carving, strong chassis feedback, lateral road holding, and that irreplaceable 3rd pedal
If I had to choose one, I'd keep the M by miles even though the AMG is a great car in it's own right. I'm a purist and driving enthusiast at heart, not a drag racing junkie. Thankfully I am fortunate enough to own the best of both worlds.
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I don't exactly have a pure/true sports car, but I'm more of a driving enthusiast than a straight line speed guy. The E55 is the perfect commuter and daily driver, IMO. Swaths of luxury, comfort, and more power than you could possibly use.
Luckily, I have my highly modified E39 M5 to satisfy my purist needs of canyon carving, strong chassis feedback, lateral road holding, and that irreplaceable 3rd pedal
If I had to choose one, I'd keep the M by miles even though the AMG is a great car in it's own right. I'm a purist and driving enthusiast at heart, not a drag racing junkie. Thankfully I am fortunate enough to own the best of both worlds.
Luckily, I have my highly modified E39 M5 to satisfy my purist needs of canyon carving, strong chassis feedback, lateral road holding, and that irreplaceable 3rd pedal
If I had to choose one, I'd keep the M by miles even though the AMG is a great car in it's own right. I'm a purist and driving enthusiast at heart, not a drag racing junkie. Thankfully I am fortunate enough to own the best of both worlds.
I'm with you. I picked up a C55 AMG last year and am considering moving to an E55. But, I'm keeping my E34 M5 stroker either way. Awesome, raw performance and the best driving car I've owned. It was my DD for two years and I love having an AMG and an M in the garage!
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If you dont need the room, then two seaters are more nimble, unless you get a big battle ship like my 2 door cl55. 
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Very different cars and functions....For most, an e55 / 63 would be a much better daily car than say a 911TT....That said, when I was younger, single, and with no kids it was a different story...
If you don't need the 4 doors and are willing to give up a little bit of comfort, get a 911TT, a new vette, or a noble....
If you don't need the 4 doors and are willing to give up a little bit of comfort, get a 911TT, a new vette, or a noble
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Get a e46 m3 to satisfy your thirst they are cheap and you will have a lot more fun than a 350z. I have e55 as a daily comfort and brutal torque monster and for the track I have my e46 m3 also very reliable
they are cheap and you will have a lot more fun than a 350z. I have e55 as a daily comfort and brutal torque monster and for the track I have my e46 m3 also very reliable
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Thanks for the opinions. Unfortunately I think a porsche is a bit outside my price range as is having two cars at the moment- which I agree should definitely be an AMG and something else with 2 seats. I would be looking more at as mentioned above the e46 m3/z4, newish nissan 370z, maybe an slk55 etc. The 350z had excellent lateral handling but the acceleration was lacking terribly and it had awful power out of corners-just starts sliding as well as poor quality interior among other things.
The problem I find with most of the cars 2003+ that are in my price bracket is that they seem to be either fast or handle well but rarely both. My partner has a sensible 4 door car and we have no kids so I can get as inappropriate vehicle I want. It never has to carry anything except 1-2 people. I think I could go back to a 6 speed manual but would prefer a fast shifting 6-7 speed transmission with paddles.
The problem I find with most of the cars 2003+ that are in my price bracket is that they seem to be either fast or handle well but rarely both. My partner has a sensible 4 door car and we have no kids so I can get as inappropriate vehicle I want. It never has to carry anything except 1-2 people. I think I could go back to a 6 speed manual but would prefer a fast shifting 6-7 speed transmission with paddles.
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Thanks for the opinions. Unfortunately I think a porsche is a bit outside my price range as is having two cars at the moment- which I agree should definitely be an AMG and something else with 2 seats. I would be looking more at as mentioned above the e46 m3/z4, newish nissan 370z, maybe an slk55 etc. The 350z had excellent lateral handling but the acceleration was lacking terribly and it had awful power out of corners-just starts sliding as well as poor quality interior among other things.
The problem I find with most of the cars 2003+ that are in my price bracket is that they seem to be either fast or handle well but rarely both. My partner has a sensible 4 door car and we have no kids so I can get as inappropriate vehicle I want. It never has to carry anything except 1-2 people. I think I could go back to a 6 speed manual but would prefer a fast shifting 6-7 speed transmission with paddles.
The problem I find with most of the cars 2003+ that are in my price bracket is that they seem to be either fast or handle well but rarely both. My partner has a sensible 4 door car and we have no kids so I can get as inappropriate vehicle I want. It never has to carry anything except 1-2 people. I think I could go back to a 6 speed manual but would prefer a fast shifting 6-7 speed transmission with paddles.
A supercharged or turbo'd Honda S2000 or Miata could be fun...both would be cheap to own, handle great, and be fun in the canyons.
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Try a corvette C6. You can pick one up in the $20-30K range.
I have a 2008 (436HP), it is faster than my 2011 E63 (518Hp) and handles better. The interior is cheap, the seats are not so great but the car is awesome on winding mountain roads. I would not recommend a corvette as a daily driver but as a weekend car a C6 convertible is hard to beat for cost/performance.
If something happens to the C6 I will buy a C7 (or a 2013 Z06 special addition convertible, which is the fastest convertible corvette ever made by GM). If something happens to the E63 I will not buy another.
I have a 2008 (436HP), it is faster than my 2011 E63 (518Hp) and handles better. The interior is cheap, the seats are not so great but the car is awesome on winding mountain roads. I would not recommend a corvette as a daily driver but as a weekend car a C6 convertible is hard to beat for cost/performance.
If something happens to the C6 I will buy a C7 (or a 2013 Z06 special addition convertible, which is the fastest convertible corvette ever made by GM). If something happens to the E63 I will not buy another.
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You hit the nail on the head with your assessments.
I've got a 2001 (s54 motor) M roadster along side the e55 wagon.
The AMG is great for pounding pavement light to light but the M is what I reach for when I want to cut up some curves.
That said I used the M as a daily driver for 12 years. Because honestly on a daily basis it's just me and MAYBE a lunch buddy. The wagon cones out when the family is going somewhere or I need the car seat.
If I could ONLY have one car it would be the M. It's just as sick in a straight line It's rare. It's purist. It's simple (but pricy) maintenance. It's fun. And it really is practical enough unless you are constantly going to Home Depot for lumber. I did a bunch if tile work and all the stuff for in the trunk.
For those rare occasions you need more space..... Go rent a car from your local rental agency through Priceline. Realistically your friends are ALL TOO WILLING to swap cars with you for a day or two.
Oh yeah.... S52 roadsters are CHEAP... And there is a supercharger kit for them. S54 roadsters are a bit more but well worth it.
I've got a 2001 (s54 motor) M roadster along side the e55 wagon.
The AMG is great for pounding pavement light to light but the M is what I reach for when I want to cut up some curves.
That said I used the M as a daily driver for 12 years. Because honestly on a daily basis it's just me and MAYBE a lunch buddy. The wagon cones out when the family is going somewhere or I need the car seat.
If I could ONLY have one car it would be the M. It's just as sick in a straight line It's rare. It's purist. It's simple (but pricy) maintenance. It's fun. And it really is practical enough unless you are constantly going to Home Depot for lumber. I did a bunch if tile work and all the stuff for in the trunk.
For those rare occasions you need more space..... Go rent a car from your local rental agency through Priceline. Realistically your friends are ALL TOO WILLING to swap cars with you for a day or two.
Oh yeah.... S52 roadsters are CHEAP... And there is a supercharger kit for them. S54 roadsters are a bit more but well worth it.
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I have E46 M3 and E55 AMG. If I could only pick one ...
I'd probably pick the E55 AMG for a daily. My only complaint is the gas mileage, but then again, I need a retune ... pig rich right now.
The comfort and straight-line acceleration is just great.
The BMW S54 engine is a picky engine in maintenance and tuning but I love the sound of that straight 6. The M113K is pretty stout up to 600WHP
I'd probably pick the E55 AMG for a daily. My only complaint is the gas mileage, but then again, I need a retune ... pig rich right now.
The comfort and straight-line acceleration is just great.
The BMW S54 engine is a picky engine in maintenance and tuning but I love the sound of that straight 6. The M113K is pretty stout up to 600WHP
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Try a corvette C6. You can pick one up in the $20-30K range.
I have a 2008 (436HP), it is faster than my 2011 E63 (518Hp) and handles better. The interior is cheap, the seats are not so great but the car is awesome on winding mountain roads. I would not recommend a corvette as a daily driver but as a weekend car a C6 convertible is hard to beat for cost/performance.
If something happens to the C6 I will buy a C7 (or a 2013 Z06 special addition convertible, which is the fastest convertible corvette ever made by GM). If something happens to the E63 I will not buy another.
I have a 2008 (436HP), it is faster than my 2011 E63 (518Hp) and handles better. The interior is cheap, the seats are not so great but the car is awesome on winding mountain roads. I would not recommend a corvette as a daily driver but as a weekend car a C6 convertible is hard to beat for cost/performance.
If something happens to the C6 I will buy a C7 (or a 2013 Z06 special addition convertible, which is the fastest convertible corvette ever made by GM). If something happens to the E63 I will not buy another.
Basically everyone is saying consider an M3. I have never really paid much attention to BMW's in general. Is the Z4 a decent car? or is the 2 door coupe the better option? More power is always fun but in reality a power:weight around the same as the CLK55 is more than enough, just needing a better chassis, suspension and transmission.
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I have E46 M3 and E55 AMG. If I could only pick one ...
I'd probably pick the E55 AMG for a daily. My only complaint is the gas mileage, but then again, I need a retune ... pig rich right now.
The comfort and straight-line acceleration is just great.
The BMW S54 engine is a picky engine in maintenance and tuning but I love the sound of that straight 6. The M113K is pretty stout up to 600WHP
I'd probably pick the E55 AMG for a daily. My only complaint is the gas mileage, but then again, I need a retune ... pig rich right now.
The comfort and straight-line acceleration is just great.
The BMW S54 engine is a picky engine in maintenance and tuning but I love the sound of that straight 6. The M113K is pretty stout up to 600WHP
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Get a Z4M coupe in that budget if you don't mind the two seater only. Incredibly fun and engaging car, it's got the E46 M3's legendary S54 mated to a slightly smaller and lighter chassis, plus the best steering rack BMW has ever put in a M car!
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My experience has been quite the opposite. The oil changes use fancy 10w60 oil and you have an $800ish valve shim adjustment every 30k miles but that's really about it.
The few known issues are pretty quickly easily and cheaply fixed. 330 hp in a z3 m chassis is a whole lot of performance and fun.
No it's not Japanese cheap/easy but it's not even close to Porsche territory in terms of coa.
Be warned though it IS a spartan car with almost no luxuries.
If you want more modern tech and gadgets the z4m recommendation is a great idea as well. (Obviously though I'm partial to the z3 styling )
The few known issues are pretty quickly easily and cheaply fixed. 330 hp in a z3 m chassis is a whole lot of performance and fun.
No it's not Japanese cheap/easy but it's not even close to Porsche territory in terms of coa.
Be warned though it IS a spartan car with almost no luxuries.
If you want more modern tech and gadgets the z4m recommendation is a great idea as well. (Obviously though I'm partial to the z3 styling )
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It looks brand new. Love the color, you obviously take pride in the car and maintain it. Either that or you do not drive it enough. My ’08 has 40K+ miles (all weekend and vacation), paint chips off the nose and I am ½ way through my 3rd set of tires.
My car gives an adrenalin rush; I would think a ZR1 would be 3X that.
My car gives an adrenalin rush; I would think a ZR1 would be 3X that.
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I'm no wealth of knowledge but I know that driving a E55 has been amazing can't wait to test drive an M5!
