2319

Just noticed that the fixed supercharger pulleys are no longer available for sale through eurocharged. When I called, they said the tune was no longer being offered either. Anyone know what happened?

ELITE_KOV

Haha, probably too much risk for people toasting their blowers/motors so they stopped it all together.

Good luck to the people who have one already installed and "tuned" in the short/long term.

GregMB

Remember when EuroCharged announced that their new "EuroFlash v.2.0" software would be updated to offer end-user adjustments for fuel and timing maps????......

I'm sure they pulled-back from it after considering the liability exposure, and potential PR nightmare if people starting "self tuning" their motors and blew things apart....

The threads would surely have titles like: "EuroCharged tune blew my motor".... ignoring the details about how all the dials in the tune were in fact all "turned to 11" during a hero-dyno pull.


It's a bummer if EC gave up on the FSP project, but I can certainly appreciate that the risks involved with tuning for it might not be worth the financial gains.


-G

ELITE_KOV

I agree wholeheartedly.

Rather than making the quick buck, pull back and mitigate the risk that's involved with products like this and 'self-tuning'.

I was never sold on the whole FSP idea. Tuning and the fun factor of not having an on/off clutch factor aside, the idea of the FSP just scared me.

shardul

iTrader: (1)

We are still selling this item.
Weistec offer tuning for this product.

Joncl

Is there any guys that are running this daily without any issues?

berti_00

yes my friend jamy (manuyc) is... he also changed the resistor bigger one and moved it inside the cabin and car has been driving amazing ever since. I personally drove it for a whole day. Might be running a little rich but hes going to redyno again with resistor inside cabin were it doesnt get hot anymore or bog out

2319

To be honest, I am just not sold on eurocharged whole heartedly. My car runs okay with it. It makes decent power. I am just not sure that the tune alone created much difference. I should have dynoed it before and after the tune. I know my fuel mileage went all to hell. Under WOT, both widebands show a/f ratios dipping below 11 to 1. I realize that this things need to be somewhat idiot proof, but frankly, I still believe there is some power left on the table and certainly some fuel economy. Plus, its a real pain in the *** to EVER get a retune. It was a pain in the *** to get the original tune frankly. And if it weren't for Adam sending over the files after hours, I am really not to sure if I would have gotten my tune as quickly as I did.

55fanatic

my tuner says he can tune for it as well

Denroll

^Who is that?

I'm still running my fixed pulley and have had it on for, oh, about 5 months now. I would have switched back to the clutched pulley long ago due to all of the little issues with the fixed pulley... but it's just so much faster and more fun to drive when it's running right. I still get the hiccup, but it is very infrequent now. I'm running a LogicLab tune and awaiting an updated tune to get more out of it.

Forrest Gump 9

You know, MB is the only one that run a clutch on the SC right? It's not re-invent the wheel. It's just simplified the car, the problems are the MB electronic and the small market we are in that the tuners don't want to spend the time to figure things out.

ELITE_KOV

Oh, I understand. I have owned many blown vehicles before the E55.

My point was that MB made it clutched and programmed the ECU for a clutched blower from the factory.

It's scary because we are not buying a factory car that didn't have a clutch from birth, this is all aftermarket and playing with fire. The FSP is scary for exactly the reason you stated, tuners don't want to spend the time to figure it out.


I will stay with my original statement that I believe the FSP and these temporary tunes out there are still scary and ticking bombs.


To each his own; I know there are many running these with little to no hiccups for months. But how will it hold up, who knows? And what will go wrong and how much will go wrong , nobody knows.
My .02

RedBullJnky

$h!t, some just can't figure it out! Just have to figure out which one can.

lm7

I've had mine as long as denroll with a tune from Jerry we had a rocky start with hiccup issue but can't be certain it was tied to the FSP because I did a 90mm TB at same time. It's been running good for 3-4 months now im just looking for a 168mm lower. Walked a GT500 and procharged 5.0 this week, so I'd say it's running good

biggking

Every time I read something about your car it gets faster and faster in my mind. Seems kinda stupid to ask but did you make sure to upgrading cooling system(he,pump,he under blower)?

This, we are running risks of really screwing things up if the engine can't pull the S/C clutch. Our ECUs are VERY VERY smart, with A LOT of 'fail safe' settings. Along with the fact that the car will need to behave (shift points/ecu tune) way differently if it was fsp. Fuel/Cooling is not the only issue. I'd really like to see one in action as a DD, I'm a DD so I'd rather not mess things up.

Crissus

Just to summarize things, what tuners are left that have a working tune for the Fixed Supercharger Pulley and what issues do remain that needed to be ironed out?

Does the Weistec tune have the hiccup issue?

55fanatic

I would imagine everyone has a hiccup(just my guess)
You need to pay CLOSE attention to IATs, resistors come out of place

Weistec
Bren Tuning(told me he has messed with it has something)
LogicLab
Eurocharged(but won't sell it)

2319

I have a 168 pulley I would sell.

Denroll

Yes, I've got a larger heat exchanger, Meziere pump, remote reservoir, and meth; all on a split system, of course. I have been throwing around the idea of modifying the intercooler, at least with larger fittings and then going with higher-flowing silicone lines.

Anyone know where I can get a spare intercooler to mess around with?

Crissus

Eurocharged will continue development of the FSP tune very soon. I received that information by Jerry himself.
The FSP tune is still available but will remain non refundable.

So lets see what tuner will come up with the "best" tune/solution for the FSP drama :-)

99lightning

i guess that guy in nj does the tunes for these.

2319

Back from the dead...any up dates on this out of curiosity?

Crissus

See here: https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ml#post6115473
and here: https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ml#post6116376

2319

I was actually referring to the tune. I was curious if any progress had been made.

Denroll

I've been without a hiccup for a week now.