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E55Freak

Pricing is in 60k, MSRP. Now, how much will dealers markup?

Thericker

Looks like fun..

AMGPower55

Thought I would leave this in here if anyone following this thread had not seen the article today!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...at_first_test/

11.2 huh? Let's try 11.7..

Now I'll just leave this article in here too

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...00_first_test/

GT500 tested by motor trend, how about 11.6

Just a little comparison between the two, done by the same magazine.

Good reads

Thericker

Try reading the rest of the article... Quote straight from the article you linked.. Read more:*http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz38p1so0cY

HeissRod

So, I wonder what the GT500 does at a prepped track?

AMGPower55

I read that portion of the article... Sure decent time, however it still did not best the shelby in the same test. Motor trend has specifics on how they run their tests, the Shelby bested the Hellcat in it's "claim to fame". You can say it wasn't VHT'd as a track would be, but I'm comparing the self proclaimed "Fastest muscle car ever" to the Shelby which was released 2 years ago and from what I'm seeing is faster still.
Carry on!

AMGPower55

http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Mustan...lip-24894.html

That run was in -900 DA in good weather, but it still only eeked out a 1.9 60'. From what I've seen on other forums guys can get their shelby's into 10's with DR's just like the Hellcat, it just is a little trickier launching the manual, lots of them require driver mods haha

Thericker

Come on... You're going to completely discredit the Wildkat based off 1 test done by a simple magazine? We all know they can't/don't drive ANY of their test cars in question to true limits... Running on unprepped asphalt really?

Thericker

Same arguement here, your gt500 in excellent DA & 50 degree weather runs what? Vs Wildkat in middle of July in Texas blazing heat etc etc.. You note a driver mod is needed to see BEST from gt500, given it is a manual trans, but who knows what the desk jockey from Motortrend did during his launch in Hellkat? Ya he blew tires off no doubt..

Edit:Im certain an expert driver could pilot the gt500 to similar ET's given they showed the same traps even in Motortrend tests.. Prob is gt500 didn't come w/optional automatic trans where even *** monkey Rollins can roll out a 10.8x on stock 20"s w/good launch/prep.. Point being the Wildkat can do better & repeat it given right traction by any AVERAGE driver.. Not trying to argue, just pointing out the obvious

AMGPower55

No argument here, your points are valid and there are many variables that go into these incremental numbers that we're seeing. At this point I'll agree to disagree because I think we have both put some valid points out there. Both of these cars have the possibilities to run 10.XX times. It's a shame that the GT500 didn't come with a similar automatic

Thericker

I concur my dear Watson

TheOtherDodge

"11.2 huh? Let's try 11.7.. "

Was MT's test done on the same track, same prep, same weather conditions, same driver? How about same transmission? Dodge claims the auto is quicker than the standard.

Sounds like your comparison has a wee bit of flaws.

AMGPower55

A. Why would MT take the slower manual? Your logic has flaws in itself...
B. MT tested it in Cali where they are located so surely it had better weather than Texas right now.
C. Obviously it was a different driver, all of the cars will most likely have different drivers... I know they won't have professional drivers only driving them.
D. It was driven on the same unprepped track that the Shelby was for it's test by MT.

Lastly, we worked out in the posts last night that each car is going to have differences and they both have potential to be something special when driven correctly, so I don't see what the big deal is

TheOtherDodge

My point is, and not trying to be rude (though I think I may have come off as that and I apologize for that) is that you commented that they were only able to run an 11.7 vs the 11.2. Unless all conditions were the same, who would expect the results to be the same? We know we can run our cars at different times of the year at different places and our times will be all over the place! And to me, the only way to compare cars is to have them all run at the same time at the same track, as someone mentioned above.

EREBUS

Recently, one of our Ford reps was asked about the Mustang's only 2 transmission options. Old school granny shifting auto trans or aggressive geared 6 speed manuals compared to the GTR and CTS-V trans platforms. His response was: "Not enough demand for the automatic in the Shelby. Learn to race with a standard." lol

Thericker

I hear that & know purist love the "Stick" but modern tech has shown these newer autos are extremely fast vs the ole' row boat.. Not to mention imagine if ALL our MB's got a modern Double Clutch auto (that could handle our torque) or if they had same in Wildkat or GT500 etc etc this conversation wouldn't be happening

EREBUS

I agree 100%, brother.

HeissRod

And now the Charger is getting the Hellcat running gear as well

http://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge-...lenger-hellcat

TheOtherDodge

Junk as well...

boostiality

Here's the CEO of DCX with Leno:


Note during the drive he states that his engineers focused heavily on retaining the cooling ability of the car for at least 20 mins of spirited driving without any horsepower loss penalty. I wonder if we can apply some of these ideas to our platform (the Hellcat uses dual heat exchangers).

BlownV8

DCX?

HeissRod

I want a Hellcat Grand Cherokee