the new SRT Challenger with Hellcat Engine
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Thought I would leave this in here if anyone following this thread had not seen the article today!
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...at_first_test/
11.2 huh? Let's try 11.7..
Now I'll just leave this article in here too
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...00_first_test/
GT500 tested by motor trend, how about 11.6
Just a little comparison between the two, done by the same magazine.
Good reads
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...at_first_test/
11.2 huh? Let's try 11.7..
Now I'll just leave this article in here too
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...00_first_test/
GT500 tested by motor trend, how about 11.6
Just a little comparison between the two, done by the same magazine.
Good reads
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Thought I would leave this in here if anyone following this thread had not seen the article today!
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...at_first_test/
11.2 huh? Let's try 11.7..
Now I'll just leave this article in here too
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...00_first_test/
GT500 tested by motor trend, how about 11.6
Just a little comparison between the two, done by the same magazine.
Good reads
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...at_first_test/
11.2 huh? Let's try 11.7..
Now I'll just leave this article in here too
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...00_first_test/
GT500 tested by motor trend, how about 11.6
Just a little comparison between the two, done by the same magazine.
Good reads
Try reading the rest of the article... Quote straight from the article you linked..
What about the 11.2-second quarter-mile time that Dodge has been trumpeting to the world? Well, half a second (11.7 seconds versus 11.2) is the difference between a prepped VHT surface and the street. All Motor Trend testing is done on asphalt, while Dodge got its big number on the strip
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Try reading the rsst of the article... Quote straight from the article you linked.. Read more:*http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz38p1so0cY
I read that portion of the article... Sure decent time, however it still did not best the shelby in the same test. Motor trend has specifics on how they run their tests, the Shelby bested the Hellcat in it's "claim to fame". You can say it wasn't VHT'd as a track would be, but I'm comparing the self proclaimed "Fastest muscle car ever" to the Shelby which was released 2 years ago and from what I'm seeing is faster still. Carry on!
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http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Mustan...lip-24894.html
That run was in -900 DA in good weather, but it still only eeked out a 1.9 60'. From what I've seen on other forums guys can get their shelby's into 10's with DR's just like the Hellcat, it just is a little trickier launching the manual, lots of them require driver mods haha
That run was in -900 DA in good weather, but it still only eeked out a 1.9 60'. From what I've seen on other forums guys can get their shelby's into 10's with DR's just like the Hellcat, it just is a little trickier launching the manual, lots of them require driver mods haha
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Come on... You're going to completely discredit the Wildkat based off 1 test done by a simple magazine? We all know they can't/don't drive ANY of their test cars in question to true limits... Running on unprepped asphalt really?
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http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Mustan...lip-24894.html
That run was in -900 DA in good weather, but it still only eeked out a 1.9 60'. From what I've seen on other forums guys can get their shelby's into 10's with DR's just like the Hellcat, it just is a little trickier launching the manual, lots of them require driver mods haha
That run was in -900 DA in good weather, but it still only eeked out a 1.9 60'. From what I've seen on other forums guys can get their shelby's into 10's with DR's just like the Hellcat, it just is a little trickier launching the manual, lots of them require driver mods haha
Same arguement here, your gt500 in excellent DA & 50 degree weather runs what? Vs Wildkat in middle of July in Texas blazing heat etc etc.. You note a driver mod is needed to see BEST from gt500, given it is a manual trans, but who knows what the desk jockey from Motortrend did during his launch in Hellkat? Ya he blew tires off no doubt..Edit:Im certain an expert driver could pilot the gt500 to similar ET's given they showed the same traps even in Motortrend tests.. Prob is gt500 didn't come w/optional automatic trans where even *** monkey Rollins can roll out a 10.8x on stock 20"s w/good launch/prep.. Point being the Wildkat can do better & repeat it given right traction by any AVERAGE driver.. Not trying to argue, just pointing out the obvious
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Same arguement here, your gt500 in excellent DA & 50 degree weather runs what? Vs Wildkat in middle of July in Texas blazing heat etc etc.. You note a driver mod is needed to see BEST from gt500, given it is a manual trans, but who knows what the desk jockey from Motortrend did during his launch in Hellkat? Ya he blew tires off no doubt..Edit:Im certain an expert driver could pilot the gt500 to similar ET's given they showed the same traps even in Motortrend tests.. Prob is gt500 didn't come w/optional automatic trans where even *** monkey Rollins can roll out a 10.8x on stock 20"s w/good launch/prep.. Point being the Wildkat can do better & repeat it given right traction by any AVERAGE driver.. Not trying to argue, just pointing out the obvious
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No argument here, your points are valid and there are many variables that go into these incremental numbers that we're seeing. At this point I'll agree to disagree because I think we have both put some valid points out there. Both of these cars have the possibilities to run 10.XX times. It's a shame that the GT500 didn't come with a similar automatic
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"11.2 huh? Let's try 11.7.. "
Was MT's test done on the same track, same prep, same weather conditions, same driver? How about same transmission? Dodge claims the auto is quicker than the standard.
Sounds like your comparison has a wee bit of flaws.
Was MT's test done on the same track, same prep, same weather conditions, same driver? How about same transmission? Dodge claims the auto is quicker than the standard.
Sounds like your comparison has a wee bit of flaws.
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B. MT tested it in Cali where they are located so surely it had better weather than Texas right now.
C. Obviously it was a different driver, all of the cars will most likely have different drivers... I know they won't have professional drivers only driving them.
D. It was driven on the same unprepped track that the Shelby was for it's test by MT.
Lastly, we worked out in the posts last night that each car is going to have differences and they both have potential to be something special when driven correctly, so I don't see what the big deal is
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A. Why would MT take the slower manual? Your logic has flaws in itself...
B. MT tested it in Cali where they are located so surely it had better weather than Texas right now.
C. Obviously it was a different driver, all of the cars will most likely have different drivers... I know they won't have professional drivers only driving them.
D. It was driven on the same unprepped track that the Shelby was for it's test by MT.
Lastly, we worked out in the posts last night that each car is going to have differences and they both have potential to be something special when driven correctly, so I don't see what the big deal is
B. MT tested it in Cali where they are located so surely it had better weather than Texas right now.
C. Obviously it was a different driver, all of the cars will most likely have different drivers... I know they won't have professional drivers only driving them.
D. It was driven on the same unprepped track that the Shelby was for it's test by MT.
Lastly, we worked out in the posts last night that each car is going to have differences and they both have potential to be something special when driven correctly, so I don't see what the big deal is
And to me, the only way to compare cars is to have them all run at the same time at the same track, as someone mentioned above.
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Same arguement here, your gt500 in excellent DA & 50 degree weather runs what? Vs Wildkat in middle of July in Texas blazing heat etc etc.. You note a driver mod is needed to see BEST from gt500, given it is a manual trans, but who knows what the desk jockey from Motortrend did during his launch in Hellkat? Ya he blew tires off no doubt..Edit:Im certain an expert driver could pilot the gt500 to similar ET's given they showed the same traps even in Motortrend tests.. Prob is gt500 didn't come w/optional automatic trans where even *** monkey Rollins can roll out a 10.8x on stock 20"s w/good launch/prep.. Point being the Wildkat can do better & repeat it given right traction by any AVERAGE driver.. Not trying to argue, just pointing out the obvious
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Recently, one of our Ford reps was asked about the Mustang's only 2 transmission options. Old school granny shifting auto trans or aggressive geared 6 speed manuals compared to the GTR and CTS-V trans platforms. His response was: "Not enough demand for the automatic in the Shelby. Learn to race with a standard." lol
) or if they had same in Wildkat or GT500 etc etc this conversation wouldn't be happening
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I hear that & know purist love the "Stick" but modern tech has shown these newer autos are extremely fast vs the ole' row boat.. Not to mention imagine if ALL our MB's got a modern Double Clutch auto (that could handle our torque) or if they had same in Wildkat or GT500 etc etc this conversation wouldn't be happening
) or if they had same in Wildkat or GT500 etc etc this conversation wouldn't be happening
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And now the Charger is getting the Hellcat running gear as well
http://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge-...lenger-hellcat
http://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge-...lenger-hellcat
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And now the Charger is getting the Hellcat running gear as well
http://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge-...lenger-hellcat
http://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge-...lenger-hellcat
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Here's the CEO of DCX with Leno:
Note during the drive he states that his engineers focused heavily on retaining the cooling ability of the car for at least 20 mins of spirited driving without any horsepower loss penalty. I wonder if we can apply some of these ideas to our platform (the Hellcat uses dual heat exchangers).
Note during the drive he states that his engineers focused heavily on retaining the cooling ability of the car for at least 20 mins of spirited driving without any horsepower loss penalty. I wonder if we can apply some of these ideas to our platform (the Hellcat uses dual heat exchangers).
