W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Dec 11, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 11:40 AM
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 12:44 PM
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Hardly "annihilates", but a good win!
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 01:31 PM
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Damn the new Z06 looks excellent in silver vs all the other loud crazy colors... On paper the Z06 weight advantage of nearly 1000 lbs should totally negate the 50 odd hp advantage in the Hellcat, it def appears Dodge underrated the HELL out of HELLcats actual hp IE it dynos at 618 rwhp stock..

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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 02:44 PM
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Hardly "annihilates", but a good win!
Which is why I downgraded my comment to "spanked".

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it def appears Chevy underrated the HELL out of HELLcats actual hp IE it dynos at 618 rwhp stock..
You mean Dodge?
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 04:25 PM
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Take the vette any day any time.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 04:27 PM
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If the vette was manual, shifted properly I feel like it would be almost even.

1000 pounds is why they dont show a dig.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 06:23 PM
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Take the vette any day any time.
besides it will attract chicks too...not taking anything from the Hellcat Challenger it's just not that sleek-n-sexy....sounds sexy tho!!
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Originally Posted by HeissRod
Which is why I downgraded my comment to "spanked".



You mean Dodge?
My bad yes Dodge.. Fixed it thnx..
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BC928
If the vette was manual, shifted properly I feel like it would be almost even.

1000 pounds is why they dont show a dig.
If the Vette was truly only down 50 bhp & has a 1000 lb weight advantage & shifted properly ANY race vs Hellcat (given proper traction) should of been beating the Hellcat inmop.. Z06 must've been stuck in 2nd-3rd gear lol..

Just spied this on the Tube.. Mirrors my exp in just how dangerous & unpredictable Corvettes are no matter how kool they look, they are an accident waiting to happen.. I never crashed my previous C6 but many, many, times it tried to kill me...
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 09:16 AM
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That video title is completely wrong as the video has been around for several years.
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 09:44 AM
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That video title is completely wrong as the video has been around for several years.
That's a C6 ZR1.
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 12:25 PM
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That is one of my favorite videos on youtube. First time I saw it I about fell over. I love the muscle milk all over the door at the end.
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 02:28 PM
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I too noticed it wasn't the 2015, you miss my point in the fact ALL Vettes are death traps..
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I too noticed it wasn't the 2015, you miss my point in the fact ALL Vettes are death traps..
This kind of ridiculous statement is what makes automotive forums lose respect.
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BC928
This kind of ridiculous statement is what makes automotive forums lose respect.
I have ton of driving exp in both stock to heavily modded C6 & close friends Z06 C6 both in stock & modded form (friends C6 Z06 had longtubes, ecu, cai on C6 Z06) couple this to umpteen friends mirroring my exact findings & eventually selling their Corvettes due to crashing them or nearly crashing them, to Youtube it's absolutely littered w/10's of 1000's of every conceivable form bone stock to lightly modded etc any year Corvette, going out of control & crashing either on the street or the Dragstrip when either racing or just a quick throttle jab...

Enjoy living in your glass bubble sir

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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 02:56 PM
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Thericker
I have ton of driving exp in both stock to heavily modded C6 & close friends Z06 C6 both in stock & modded form (friends C6 Z06 had longtubes, ecu, cai on C6 Z06) couple this to umpteen friends mirroring my exact findings & eventually selling their Corvettes due to crashing them or nearly crashing them, to Youtube it's absolutely littered w/10's of 1000's of every conceivable form bone stock to lightly modded etc any year Corvette, going out of control & crashing either on the street or the Dragstrip when either racing or just a quick throttle jab...

Enjoy living in your glass bubble sir


Wow. Just... Wow. Maybe don't drive like a dip****. "Street or Dragstrip"....
Oh Lord.

You can hold the opinion. Please do not spout the opinion as fact - that is what I am saying.
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BC928
If the vette was manual, shifted properly I feel like it would be almost even.

1000 pounds is why they dont show a dig.
Actually the Corvette was a manual and it would have performed better if it was a auto. With that being said I am not sure if the guys driving was really the problem considering he rippeda 10.93 @ 128 on drag radials that same day at the drag strip. He also ran faster times than this Hellcat as well. Much respect to the Hellcat. It's a great great car and it indeed smoked this ZO6, but it just doesn't all make sense considering this same ZO6 traps higher. I think we need to see more examples before drawing any complete conclusions.

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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BC928


Wow. Just... Wow. Maybe don't drive like a dip****. "Street or Dragstrip"....
Oh Lord.

You can hold the opinion. Please do not spout the opinion as fact - that is what I am saying.
What a predictable asinine retort Your assumptions on my driving are laughable.. Apart from legal dragstrip racing... Just an occasional throttle stab to either merge on the freeway or to avert an idiot driver etc will & does put the Corvette into a violent tail wag or complete loss of control (It's a problem w/the TQ management & shift line pressure in the ECU/TCU & the % of TQ & line pressure it releases at any given time under myriad of throttle positions, the Vette will react as if you floored it instead of just kicking down 1 or 2 gears, happens in both Auto & Manual couple this to super lightweight chassis/body & maybe you'll start to get the picture) Definitely a dipsh_it short coming on my part

The Corvette desperately needs AWD period
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 05:18 PM
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That's the great thing about street racing. You don't have to be the fastest car to win!

That Challenger ran low 12's at Sealy according to the article which seems slow, but it is what it is.... I wonder how many miles it has and if the ECM is cutting power. I know they JUST became available late last month. How did it beat a car that ran 10's at the track? That is the mystery factor of street racing!

During my street racing days I beat cars that were faster than me at the track all the time.
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 08:55 PM
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wrap your heads around this!! local shop to me new stock hellcat.
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Originally Posted by 320 dreamer
wrap your heads around this!! local shop to me new stock hellcat.
2015 Hellcat - YouTube
I've seen this video before. The Hellcat is a monster, but with numbers this high this is cant be an industry standard dynojet. I've seen videos of hellcats putting down between 642 and 616 on the dynojet. I was also told that a Hellcat put down 562 on my shops Mustang Dyno last week.
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I've seen this video before. The Hellcat is a monster, but with numbers this high this is cant be an industry standard dynojet. I've seen videos of hellcats putting down between 642 and 616 on the dynojet. I was also told that a Hellcat put down 562 on my shops Mustang Dyno last week.
Yup.. Another good comparo I saw few vids on youtube showing bone stock 2015 Z06 making 587+ rwhp on DynoJet, again adding the weight difference between Hellcat & latest Z06 @ 1000 odd lbs there's no way it should loose any race vs Hellcat weighing 4500 etc..
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Originally Posted by 320 dreamer
wrap your heads around this!! local shop to me new stock hellcat.
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Note the tiny fan and CLOSED ENGINE BAY Def a strong car but no way is that Dyno set to reality on earth @ 700+ whp I bet the owner laminated the Dyno sheet copy in gold.. You can clearly see how these fluffy dynos get going & imagine trying to argue some sense to the owner of that Shi_tyKitty (not hating I luv these rigs just what I will call mine when I finally get 1)

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