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As far as comfort, my 07 srt-8 charger was one of the most comfortable cars I've ever owned. I was seriously in love with the seats. If it wasn't for the 12mpg I would of had it for A LOT longer than I did. Reliability and status are definitely at question though.
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But in any case, the Hellcat appears to be the sedan to beat right now. Though I think when it comes down to mod potential, we have the upperhand as our transmissions are stronger than the Hellcat from the factory. That and we already have 10-second E55s recorded. Just depends on how far you want to go.
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Not to get off topic, but mine has been pretty reliable for a 10 year old car also. IC pump, front strut, idler bearing.
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I've been around these forums for a decade + now & I've seen umpteen threads on E55 w211's plagued w/Airmatic failures left & right, leaking gas tanks, crappy oem Navigation, rattling pano roof, dash rattles, the infamous IC pump failures, crushed engine & tranny mounts/flex-discs. And here's a nice small list of Recalls & more defects than ANYONE should ever expect on a vehicle that stickers for close to $100k when new
Maybe you 3 guys got the white unicorn models w/only a couple tiny repair problems
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...bulletins.html
My previous w220 S class had everything from A/C blower motor failure, Nav failure, phn not linking up, Airmatic failure 2 times, ignition position sensor, auto close door & trunk features, multiple trunk battery failures etc etc etc..
My SL r230 m275 engine.. Coil packs 4 x, ABC pump & leaking lines failure 3x, ($7500+ ea time under warranty) crushed engine/tranny mounts twice, Navigation completely failed & replaced entire headunit for $8k under warranty failed TWICE, phn intermittent failure to link up, boost leaks, roll bar rattles, and best yet UNSOLVED on EVERY r230 I've ever seen INCLUDING real SL65 Black Series they ALL have a mysterious battery draw leak, and if you leave parked w/OUT connecting a trickle charger, for 2-3 wks even w/BRAND new accessory battery in trunk it will go completely dead if not driven weekly.
The reason MB replaced my oem Navigation was, they summized the battery draw was due to defect in Navigation unit. Ahh wrong still happens to this day even w/my Nav having completely died yet again (convieniantly out of warranty now lol) I could go on... These cars are indeed beautiful and have stout engines/tranns but are absolutely riddled w/any every other mechanical/electrical etc etc problem you can imagine
Edit: I've owned multiple Ford/Chevy trucks thru the years, they literally ONLY needed gas/oil/tires and driven hard put up wet etc etc..
Maybe you 3 guys got the white unicorn models w/only a couple tiny repair problemshttps://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...bulletins.html
W211 Technical Service Bulletins2003 E55Safety RecallsTSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title2004050014 OCT 04*Recall - SBC Hydraulic Unit Reprogramming*2003080003 AUG 03*Recall - Steering Coupler Pinch Bolt TorqueGeneral RecallsTSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title2004070019 OCT 04*Campaign - Central Gateway Module Reflash*2003020003 JUN 03*Campaign - Front Door Module Replacement*2002090005 DEC 02*Campaign - Instrument Cluster Module FlashingService BulletinsTSB Number & Issue Date TSB TitleP-54_21-137 MAR 05*Electrical - Battery Control Module Reprogramming*P-42_46-58 MAR 05*Brakes - Sensotronic(R) Brake Control System Activation*P-27_55-50A FEB 05*A/T - Harsh Engagement/Buzzing Noises*P-83_30-74A FEB 05*A/C - Musty/Moldy Odors*P-72_10-32B JAN 05*Body - Front Door Lock Rattling When Locking*P-54_21-133 JAN 05*Lighting - Trunk/Cargo Light Inoperative*P-54_21-134 JAN 05*Antitheft - Interior Lights ON After Alarm Activation*P-27_60-43 JAN 05*A/T - Rough Converter Engagement/Droning/Buzzing Noise*P-82_64-385A DEC 04*Audio System - Multiple CD Changer Malfunctions*P-82_62-361A DEC 04*Audio System - Speakers Crackle With Radio ON*P-30_30-61 DEC 04*Cruise Control Inoperative*P-72_29-38 DEC 04*Electrical - Power Seat/Mirrors/Windows Inoperative*P-54_21-125 DEC 04*Instruments - False Messages Displayed*P-82_10-419 DEC 04*Lighting - Condensation in Headlamps*P-54_65-130 DEC 04*Parking Assist System - Triggers For No Apparent Reason*P-32_25-19 DEC 04*Suspension - Shock/Strut Replacement Guidelins*P-42_46-53 DEC 04*Brakes - 'Brake Malfunction SBC Visit Workshop' Message*P-42_46-46B DEC 04*Brakes - Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC) Bleeding Proc.*P-18_00-17C DEC 04*Engine - Approved Engine Oils (Addition)*P-42_46-32B NOV 04*Brakes - Whistling Noise When Pressing Brake Pedal*P-82_64-414 NOV 04*Audio System - CD Retrieval From Changer Unit*P-82_70-346B NOV 04*Cell Phone - Inoperative/Locks-Up*P-33_15-16 NOV 04*Steering - Steering Wheel Twitch on Low Speed Braking*P-15_40-54 NOV 04*Charging System - Insufficient Charging*P-42_46-50 OCT 04*ABS - Sensotronic(R) Brake Control Diagnosis/Repair*P-80_50-31A OCT 04*Antitheft System - Acoustic Arming Signal Disabling*P-82_62-325D OCT 04*Audio System - Inoperative/No Right Channel/Memory Inop.*P-82_62-407 OCT 04*Audio/COMAND(R) Systems - Noise/Erratic Operation*P-27_00-47A OCT 04*A/T - 722.6 Oil Leaks From Electrical Connection*P-77_10-24 OCT 04*Body - Sliding Roof Water Leaks/Rattles*P-54_10-117 OCT 04*Electrical - Under Voltage Switch Off Consumers Message*S-07_61-38F OCT 04*Engine/Transmission Controls - SCN Coding*P-82_30-399 OCT 04*Windshield - Blistering Near Rain/Light Sensor*P-82_60-382 SEP 04*Audio/Cell Phone - Erratic Operation*P-82_62-387 SEP 04*Audio System - Interference Noise From Speakers*P-82_70-248A SEP 04*Cellular Phone - 'No Service' Message Displayed*P-83_20-72 SEP 04*A/C - Erratic Rear A/C Operation/DTC's Set*P-54_21-113 SEP 04*Battery - No Start Condition Due To Quiescent Drain*P-77_20-19A SEP 04*Body - Sliding/Panoramic Roof Synchronization Loss*P-82_70-375 SEP 04*Cell Phone - Intermittent Power ON/OFF/Erratic Operation*P-82_60-360 SEP 04*Audio System - Loss of Sound*P-82_70-338A SEP 04*Cell Phone - Echoing/Noise During Hands Free Call*P-82_85-389 SEP 04*COMAND(R) System - Unit Switches OFF Regularly*P-82_30-366 SEP 04*Wipers/Washers - Wipers Chatter/Noisy After Blade Change*P-46_10-18 SEP 04*A/C - Steering Wheel Heater Not Working Properly*P-33_15-15 AUG 04*Steering/Suspension - Torque Strut Replacement Parts*P-82_00-260A AUG 04*Audio System - CD's Won't Play or Eject*P-83_00-70 AUG 04*A/C - Inoperative/Codes Set/AC OFF Lamp Illuminated*P-91_60-66A JUL 04*SRS - Warning Lamp ON/DTC's B9223/B9243 Stored*P-42_46-43 JUN 04*Brakes - Squeaking Noise On Application*P-42_46-27D JUN 04*ABS - Buzzing Noise During Pressure Build-Up*P-82_10-365 JUN 04*Lighting - Headlamp Reflector Loose*P-82_62-357 JUN 04*Audio System - Intermittent Sound*P-47_30-29 JUN 04*Interior - Knocking Noise*P-82_85-363 MAY 04*Instruments - Clock Setting Procedure*P-91_60-74 MAY 04*SRS - Coding Unnecessary*P-42_46-41 MAY 04*Sensotronic(R) Brake Control Unit - Service Precautions*P-82_10-343A APR 04*Lighting - Fog Lamp Beam Screen Cap Loose*P-82_10-344 APR 04*Lighting - Left/Right Brake Lamp Brightness Difference*P-54_00-71C APR 04*SRS - MIL ON/Multiple DTC's Found*P-67_29-10 APR 04*A/C - Rear Window Won't Heat in the Upper Area*P-82_60-259A APR 04*BCM - P9386 Control Module Diagnosis Stored in DAS*P-82_85-325B APR 04*Audio - Intermittently Not Functioning*P-46_20-16 APR 04*Steering - Leaks at Line/Rack Housing Connection*P-42_46-38 APR 04*Brakes - Software Patch Necessary Before Bleeding System*P-82_95-322A APR 04*Communications - 'Tele Aid Not Active' Displayed*P-82_85-322 APR 04*Navigation System - Installation*P-82_20-336 MAR 04*Interior - Sliding Roof Switch Cover Cracks*P-82_85-332 MAR 04*Navigation System - Slow to Start Upon DVD Insertion*P-42_20-35 MAR 04*Parktronic System(R) - Intermittently Inoperative*P-46_10-15 MAR 04*Interior - Steering Wheel Heater Inoperative*P-01_45-15 FEB 04*Engine - Oil Leak*P-00_45-77 FEB 04*Interior - Squeaking/Creaking Noise Kit*P-82_95-305 FEB 04*Emergency Contact/Alarm System - System 'Runaway'*P-54_18-108 FEB 04*Starting System - Engine Does Not Start*P-07_00-28F FEB 04*Engine Controls - Lack of Power/Hesitation/MIL ON*P-33_15-10 FEB 04*Steering/Suspension - Alignment Requirements*P-82_85-301 FEB 04*Navigation System - DTC D300 Explanation*S-01_30-15 FEB 04*Engine - Cylinder Wall Damage Assesment*S-49_10-08 FEB 04*Exhaust System - Rattling/Hissing/Humming Noises*P-40_10-43 JAN 04*Tires - Michelin Pilot Sport A/S(R) Tires Not Approved*P-54_21-89B JAN 04*Charging System - 'Battery: Visit Workshop' Message*P-54_65-104A JAN 04*Parking Assist System - Triggers for No Reason*P-47_10-27 JAN 04*Fuel System - Fuel Filler Cap Hard to Remove/Install*P-30_20-61 DEC 03*Engine Controls - MIL ON/Limp Home Mode/DTC's Set*P-54_10-106 DEC 03*Battery/Charging - Error Message Displayed/DTC's Set*P-82_30-316 DEC 03*Wipers/Washers - Erratic Intermittent Wipe Explanation*P-82_10-258A DEC 03*Lighting - Front Turn Signal Lamps Inoperative*S-18_00-16A DEC 03*Gasoline Engine - Oil Sludging*P-82_95-295 OCT 03*Communication Platform - Mobile Identification Number*P-82_62-226A OCT 03*Audio System - Intermittent Loss of Audio*S-54_21-101 OCT 03*Engine Controls - ECM Flash Process Change*P-88_50-33 SEP 03*Body - Trunk Lid Springs Back When Opened*P-54_18-98 SEP 03*Battery - r Requirements During Vehicle Svc.*P-82_10-255 AUG 03*Lighting - Premature Headlamp Bulb Failure*P-88_50-32 AUG 03*Body - Water Drips Into trunk With Trunk Lid Open*P-61_10-02 AUG 03*Body - Water leaks Into Trunk*P-54_10-90 AUG 03*Battery - Diagnostic Troubleshooting Procedure*P-82_95-273 JUL 03*Communications Platform - DTC D640 Set*P-82_95-274 JUL 03*Communications Platform - DTC D662 Set*P-82_10-269A JUL 03*High Mount Stop Lamp - Water Leaks Into Trunk*P-82_85-264 JUL 03*Navigation System - Inoperative/Erroneous Guidance*P-82_95-251A JUL 03*TeleAid(R) System - 'TeleAid Defective' Displayed*P-82_95-267 JUL 03*Cell Phone - Erroneous Hands Free Fault Code*P-14_30-15 JUL 03*Emissions - MIL ON/DTC P2003 Stored in Memory*P-82_10-257 JUN 03*Lighting - Headlamp Bulbs Inoperative*P-82_95-235A JUN 03*Communications Platform - 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My SL r230 m275 engine.. Coil packs 4 x, ABC pump & leaking lines failure 3x, ($7500+ ea time under warranty) crushed engine/tranny mounts twice, Navigation completely failed & replaced entire headunit for $8k under warranty failed TWICE, phn intermittent failure to link up, boost leaks, roll bar rattles, and best yet UNSOLVED on EVERY r230 I've ever seen INCLUDING real SL65 Black Series they ALL have a mysterious battery draw leak, and if you leave parked w/OUT connecting a trickle charger, for 2-3 wks even w/BRAND new accessory battery in trunk it will go completely dead if not driven weekly.
The reason MB replaced my oem Navigation was, they summized the battery draw was due to defect in Navigation unit. Ahh wrong still happens to this day even w/my Nav having completely died yet again (convieniantly out of warranty now lol) I could go on... These cars are indeed beautiful and have stout engines/tranns but are absolutely riddled w/any every other mechanical/electrical etc etc problem you can imagine
Edit: I've owned multiple Ford/Chevy trucks thru the years, they literally ONLY needed gas/oil/tires and driven hard put up wet etc etc..
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Guess I have 2 unicorns as well then. Daily is an 04 e55 that's been dead reliable minus wear and tear items for 2 years and 20,000 miles. Weekend car is a p030 cls55 bought last September and put 10,000 miles since. I actually regret buying warrantys for both of them as I never have to use it.
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Guess I have 2 unicorns as well then. Daily is an 04 e55 that's been dead reliable minus wear and tear items for 2 years and 20,000 miles. Weekend car is a p030 cls55 bought last September and put 10,000 miles since. I actually regret buying warrantys for both of them as I never have to use it.
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These cars are indeed beautiful and have stout engines/tranns
Curious you kats w/minimal problems, have you owned your cars since brand NEW? Or relatively new? Or did you pick them up used w/decent mileage on OD? If latter you've lucked out as previous owner/owners have literally rebuilt most the car w/latest parts that have been reengineered multiple times over the years to be more reliable, but trust me {boostiality} you're on a ticking time bomb w/BOTH your rigs, Airmatic is still inherently flawed and costs an arm/leg when bad enjoy your unicorn petting zoo
Originally Posted by*boostiality*Guess I have 2 unicorns as well then. Daily is an 04 e55 that's been dead reliable minus wear and tear items for 2 years and 20,000 miles. Weekend car is a p030 cls55 bought last September and put 10,000 miles since. I actually regret buying warrantys for both of them as I never have to use it.
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Curious you kats w/minimal problems, have you owned your cars since brand NEW? Or relatively new? Or did you pick them up used w/decent mileage on OD? If latter you've lucked out as previous owner/owners have literally rebuilt most the car w/latest parts that have been reengineered multiple times over the years to be more reliable, but trust me {boostiality} you're on a ticking time bomb w/BOTH your rigs, Airmatic is still inherently flawed and costs an arm/leg when bad enjoy your unicorn petting zoo
I bought the e55 with 89,000 miles and now it has 116,000. The cls had 46,000 and now has 56,000.
Their both under exclusionary policies so it doesn't matter if they break, my regret is that they haven't broken yet to justify the cost of the warranty
Hearing about the SL's and the V12 cars though
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wow challenger hellcat is topping $80k on ebay. so much for starting at $60k
One was even listed at $84k. A little pricey for a dodge
More than likely will retain its value in the coming years tho due to limited production.
One was even listed at $84k. A little pricey for a dodge
More than likely will retain its value in the coming years tho due to limited production.
