W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 06-26-2014, 01:50 PM
  #1  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
BagMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,057
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
E55, E320 CDI , CLA250, Jag XJ Supersport
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.

Bought a BMW PS reservoir with a send and return.
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-b650ea00-4ffc-4906-bdc6-be5f22413701.jpg
Cut off the return and plugged it
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-f2311ed0-8738-4c9b-8cbb-bca6dc4666da.jpg
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-4e29bb4d-fd1a-42d9-b0a9-cab0df8801f2.jpg
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-f47082b7-6546-4249-8cd1-13cf0b8fdf9f.jpg
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-9c983e0a-5df0-4772-a810-de65818c71d4.jpg
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-bc6dc223-b626-4468-82f9-f68e9dbcb9c9.jpg
Old 06-26-2014, 01:53 PM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
BagMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,057
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
E55, E320 CDI , CLA250, Jag XJ Supersport
Drilled a hole in the new return location
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-e3eb6426-b618-4dcc-b5ee-110fe78bb556.jpg
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-d85fcefe-6ced-400e-bd8e-13d499b10afd.jpg
Used the drill bit for alignment while epoxy dries
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-b79c212c-52c9-4ff2-a915-fd72c36b7962.jpg
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-26466ce7-5785-4f99-bb44-b5d6616d3d0c.jpg
Old 06-26-2014, 01:58 PM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
BagMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,057
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
E55, E320 CDI , CLA250, Jag XJ Supersport
I plan to run a line from the IC bleed valve to the return on the BMW tank. But I have some questions:
1) Is my return nipple too low? does it matter?
2) Tank has a vented cap. Any issues there?
3) Think I should have tapped the tank and installed a 1/4" barb instead? (or whatever size the bleed port is). That way, I wouldn't have to use a reducer from 1/2" to 1/4"
Old 06-26-2014, 02:33 PM
  #4  
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
shardul's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,139
Received 293 Likes on 242 Posts
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
typically the return line should be above the fluid level in the reservoir so it will be self bleeding.
in a traditional split the reservoir is only used as a filling point.
Old 06-26-2014, 02:49 PM
  #5  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
BagMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,057
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
E55, E320 CDI , CLA250, Jag XJ Supersport
Originally Posted by shardul
typically the return line should be above the fluid level in the reservoir so it will be self bleeding.
in a traditional split the reservoir is only used as a filling point.
Thanks Shardul. I think I'll buy a single outlet reservoir and tap a fitting higher up. What size though? 1/4 or 5/16?

My car is never cool enough to take off the bleed cap. lol
Old 06-26-2014, 04:31 PM
  #6  
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
shardul's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,139
Received 293 Likes on 242 Posts
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
fitting size depends on the size of hose you are running.
Old 06-26-2014, 05:34 PM
  #7  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
BagMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,057
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
E55, E320 CDI , CLA250, Jag XJ Supersport
Originally Posted by shardul
fitting size depends on the size of hose you are running.
Right, but I want it to be the same size as the stock bleed nipple. Unfortunately, I don't know what size that is.
Old 06-26-2014, 05:42 PM
  #8  
Super Member
 
£ C43 £ AMG £'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 626
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
E55K AMG
Originally Posted by BagMan
Right, but I want it to be the same size as the stock bleed nipple. Unfortunately, I don't know what size that is.

I did this , did not chop anything on the reservoir connected straight to it from underneath , just used a barb reducer on the bleed pipe from the supercharger
Old 06-26-2014, 09:06 PM
  #9  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
BagMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,057
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
E55, E320 CDI , CLA250, Jag XJ Supersport
Alright. I had some time today and mocked it up.
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-be1b33a9-938c-419f-af5d-793d878893a6.jpg
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-430eb94d-76a6-45e2-b8a0-7029720acd28.jpg
Tapped the tank with a 5/16 barb and used a 90* 5/16 heater hose. Fits good. Nice and clean.
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-5845feb7-b71e-48d6-800f-1238ab438225.jpg
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-32701fa6-c1f5-4189-88c5-6c3a2eae87a6.jpg
Old 06-26-2014, 09:09 PM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
BagMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,057
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
E55, E320 CDI , CLA250, Jag XJ Supersport
Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.-b7ae89b1-79b4-46de-a931-ac6faaf0af4b.jpg

Also found this 3/4 x 5/8 x 3/4 tee fitting for the IC circuit to BMW tank. This way, I eliminate the need for a reducer.
Old 06-26-2014, 10:22 PM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Denroll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: A to the Z (the state)
Posts: 2,279
Likes: 0
Received 26 Likes on 21 Posts
'06 E55
I have the reservoir where the inlet/outlet thingies are slanted at the bottom, so I didn't have to modify anything. On the bleed nipple of the supercharger outlet, I cut a small piece of fuel line that had a 1/2" outer diameter and forced it on to that nipple so I could use 1/2" hose to the tank.

Oh, and that vented cap? Whenever I would do a long pull, like 3rd gear, water would shoot out of that hole. I watched it squirt out like a water gun when it was on the dyno. I plugged it from the inside, so now I get a little bit of leaking at the cap after a long run.
Old 06-26-2014, 10:42 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
CHADisBAD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Clarksville, TN
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
G63
Originally Posted by Denroll
Oh, and that vented cap? Whenever I would do a long pull, like 3rd gear, water would shoot out of that hole. I watched it squirt out like a water gun when it was on the dyno. I plugged it from the inside, so now I get a little bit of leaking at the cap after a long run.
I split my IC system on my SL55 a few days ago, and after I drove it about 20 miles on a 90 degree afternoon, coolant was squirting out that little hole in my BMW reservoir cap. Coolant went everywhere, the fan blew it all over my engine bay, it was a huge mess. I thought I was the only one having that issues, but I guess not.
Old 06-26-2014, 10:52 PM
  #13  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
BagMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,057
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
E55, E320 CDI , CLA250, Jag XJ Supersport
Serious?? That sucks
Old 06-26-2014, 10:59 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
CHADisBAD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Clarksville, TN
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
G63
Yes, it was a mess. I was thinking I had a huge air pocket in the IC system somewhere, but I'm not sure?
Old 06-26-2014, 11:26 PM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
iTrader: (1)
 
Sir-Boost-a-Lot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Orlando
Posts: 2,092
Received 29 Likes on 22 Posts
1967 Pro Touring turbo LSX Camaro
What happens to the volume of water as a given mass is heated?
Old 06-27-2014, 05:32 AM
  #16  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
JoeNobody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,226
Likes: 0
Received 23 Likes on 21 Posts
Mercedes
Nice job fitting a new bleed port. It's pretty tight under the hood with both bottom hoses connected.

I'll have to seal the vent port on my reservoir. Wonder about venting pressure though.
Old 06-27-2014, 07:04 AM
  #17  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
BagMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,057
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
E55, E320 CDI , CLA250, Jag XJ Supersport
You guys filling it too much?
Old 06-28-2014, 04:02 PM
  #18  
Junior Member
 
BRH AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Race City USA
Posts: 69
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
E55 AMG
split cooling

I thought some would like to see my set-up. I made my own tank, not wanting to have BMW parts or cobra parts on my car. Hope I can load these pictures.
Old 06-28-2014, 06:44 PM
  #19  
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
shardul's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,139
Received 293 Likes on 242 Posts
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
Look very nice
Old 06-28-2014, 07:22 PM
  #20  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
BagMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,057
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
E55, E320 CDI , CLA250, Jag XJ Supersport
Yes. Looks good.
Old 06-28-2014, 10:34 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
Gadget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Southern Maryland USA
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
06 E55 AMG, 13 C63 AMG
Don't know how the SL55 is setup, but it might have the bleed system connected to the engine cooling system expansion tank. If so when the engine cooling system pressurizes it will flow into your split intercooler system and cause it to over fill and blow out.

If yours is setup that way you will need to disconnect the two systems completely including the bleed purge hose.

G
Old 06-29-2014, 04:27 AM
  #22  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
JoeNobody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,226
Likes: 0
Received 23 Likes on 21 Posts
Mercedes
Originally Posted by BRH AMG
I thought some would like to see my set-up. I made my own tank, not wanting to have BMW parts or cobra parts on my car. Hope I can load these pictures.

Looks awesome. How much capacity does it hold? Does it have a radiator cap to handle pressure blowoff? As long as the cooling loop is not connected to engine radiator lines, it's golden. Hooking up the bleed port allows it to self bleed (and move/mix the reservior coolant, and allows cooling loop to better burp up air).

Last edited by JoeNobody; 06-29-2014 at 04:33 AM.
Old 06-29-2014, 09:18 AM
  #23  
Junior Member
 
BRH AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Race City USA
Posts: 69
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
E55 AMG
Thanks guys. Tank holds 1 and a half quarts, or 48 ounces. Cap is a 6 pound radiator cap with a Billet Specialties machined cover. This works well with my Bosch 010 pump. I have since made another tank which is getting black anodized, and the cap for this one is a black notched 16lb. cap from Billet. This should work with the SLS Pierburg CWA 100.2 I will be installing soon. I have more pics.
Old 06-29-2014, 10:17 AM
  #24  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Critter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,556
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 13 Posts
07 E63 + 07 CLK63CAB
BRH AMG has the right idea, if this piece is in line with system coolant pressure of at least the 16lb then gluing or bonding onto a plastic BMW tank is asking for trouble, with this pressure when you try to contain it by blocking the vent port the pressure will find the next weakest link which will be the glued on port or threaded brass piece. To have the car puke the coolant out when the fitting fails will not be a good day. "Use Caution" when designing a piece of equipment that must contain heat and pressure, just like you never remove the rad cap from a hot car, we all know what will happen then right!
Old 06-29-2014, 12:56 PM
  #25  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
HeissRod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 4,429
Received 60 Likes on 42 Posts
'06 E55, '15 Jeep SRT8, '94 Mustang GT
How much of a need is there to have a self-bleeding system? Once the system is filled and bled after a pump or H/E install, why would air get introduced into the system?


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Split cooling with custom, self bleeding, BMW tank. Input needed.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:56 PM.