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Old 10-06-2014, 07:18 PM
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Mid to late production 06 means model year 07. Hence E63.
Old 10-06-2014, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifter
Mid to late production 06 means model year 07. Hence E63.
That's right, so I guess the people with 2006s do have SBC.
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14 E63, 05 E55, 03 Evo 8, 08 F250, 06 R6R, 92 Talon TSI, and instability
Originally Posted by JDM_SXE-10
It looks like the SBC unit is the same part number for my 2003 E500 and your 2005 E55:

0004300712

Thank you!!!! I was going nuts trying to narrow down the right part number even to reference what we're talking about. The part isn't listed as an SBC pump.
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from my understanding all e55's have SBC
Old 10-07-2014, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by WANTED!!
SO, my original question still stands. Does anyone have the part number for a 2005 e55 SBC pump?
Here you go:

A 005 431 81 12
Old 10-07-2014, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WANTED!!
Thank you!!!! I was going nuts trying to narrow down the right part number even to reference what we're talking about. The part isn't listed as an SBC pump.
I just double checked and it appears that O-55 has the correct part number. Disregard mine and refer to post #55. It should be A0054318112.
Old 10-07-2014, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by shardul
IMO the counter set in accordance with the lifespan of the components of the units. Yes you can reset the counter but then you would have a SBC unit with parts that have exceeded their useful life.
Bingo.

Sure, there's little tools out there that will reset the counter. But guys, that's not gonna keep it from failing. Would you really want to be driving this thing after rewriting the EEPROM, knowing everytime you take it out you could be risking serious injury to whomever is driving, and all the innocents around you? Those that have had this failure will tell you it's more than a bit unnerving when it happens. I was lucky that it was very early morning, small back roads, and no traffic. The 5 miles or so back home were not for the feint of heart.

All of these early production year 211s will have to deal with this. Start budgeting now...

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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama

Bingo.

Sure, there's little tools out there that will reset the counter. But guys, that's not gonna keep it from failing. Would you really want to be driving this thing after rewriting the EEPROM, knowing everytime you take it out you could be risking serious injury to whomever is driving all the innocents around you? Those that have had this failure will tell you it's more than a bit unnerving when it happens. I was lucky that it was very early morning, small back roads, and no traffic. The 5 miles or so back home were not for the feint of heart.

All of these early production year 211s will have to deal with this. Start budgeting now...
How this has not been a lawsuit already is baffling
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
Bingo.

Sure, there's little tools out there that will reset the counter. But guys, that's not gonna keep it from failing. Would you really want to be driving this thing after rewriting the EEPROM, knowing everytime you take it out you could be risking serious injury to whomever is driving, and all the innocents around you? Those that have had this failure will tell you it's more than a bit unnerving when it happens. I was lucky that it was very early morning, small back roads, and no traffic. The 5 miles or so back home were not for the feint of heart.

All of these early production year 211s will have to deal with this. Start budgeting now...
It's a lot more than a bit unnerving when it fails it turns stoping your can into stopping a rocket
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I found this but can't find menu option in SDS C4? Maybe it is geared towards C3?

RESET SBC SERVICE LIGHT:
1st: make sure that engine is running!!! In SD Developer mode you need to go to:
Entwickelingsdaten (developer data) ---> ansteueringen (control gear) ---> Gesamstliste aller Ansteuerungen (complete list of all the control circuits).

To see how many times brake has been pressed there is a line that says:
Bremsenzahler (DJ_GetBrLive) (brake payer (dj_getbrlive)).

Then 1 line down there you see:
Bremsenzahler aktualisieren und Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen (brake upgrade and lifetime payer payers recalculated f) -> click it ! Parameter uINBR = 0 then click F3

1 line down you see (or search for this line):
Bremsenzahler auf beliebigen Wert setzen (DJ_SetNBr) -> click it Parameter uINBR = 0 then click F3

then scroll down until you see the line's:

Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen (DJ_CalcLiveTime) Parameter uINBR = 0 then click F3

Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen und schreiben (DJ_BuildAndWriteF) Parameter uINBR = 0 then click F3

Log out of SBC !! Log out of vehicle!! Let engine run at least 10 minutes or drive at least 10 minutes if no coils are damaged, SBC fault code is not AKTUEL no more
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14 E63, 05 E55, 03 Evo 8, 08 F250, 06 R6R, 92 Talon TSI, and instability
So mine failed too, finally. And it just so happened to have happened with DAYS to spare left on the SBC warranty. Was contacted by the dealer yesterday and was told they're covering it.

Who has two thumbs and is one lucky SOB? THIS GUY!!!!
Old 01-08-2015, 08:31 AM
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Yikes. This -almost- makes me hope mine fails too within the next 5 months.

Did you have an immediate catastrophic failure, or did you get any warning?
Old 01-08-2015, 09:33 AM
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Mine is going strong and my warranty ended last March. I am having the dealer pull the # of cycles and that should tell me when I should start saving.
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Originally Posted by WANTED!!
So mine failed too, finally. And it just so happened to have happened with DAYS to spare left on the SBC warranty. Was contacted by the dealer yesterday and was told they're covering it.

Who has two thumbs and is one lucky SOB? THIS GUY!!!!

how many miles do you have on your car?
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Is it possible to retrofit the newer non sbc brake system in?
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Has anyone had the pump replaced at the stealership & know how many labor hrs the job was ?
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Has anyone had the pump replaced at the stealership & know how many labor hrs the job was ?
on the e55 it usually runs about 6 hrs including diagnosis. average labor rate around 150-175 an hr.
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Originally Posted by uraberg
Yikes. This -almost- makes me hope mine fails too within the next 5 months.

Did you have an immediate catastrophic failure, or did you get any warning?
Not really. I was on the highway traveling at 75 when I got the flashing red dash message of death. Had it not been early on a Saturday morning, it could have been bad.
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Originally Posted by veryswag
how many miles do you have on your car?
Under 80k.
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Originally Posted by uraberg
Yikes. This -almost- makes me hope mine fails too within the next 5 months.

Did you have an immediate catastrophic failure, or did you get any warning?
a little advice for everyone almost out of the 10 year warranty on sbc. the sbc service threshold life can be checked with sds even before a warning comes up and it can be programmed or replaced if needed.
before the warranty expires take it to the dealer and pay for an "a" or "b" service and make sure they check the service life as it is required on the service sheet to do so. then if they find that the pump needs replaced or programmed it can be done right then and there.
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Is it possible to retrofit the newer non sbc brake system in?
I would think so, but then again a lot of parts and probably coding the ECU.
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Does the sbc pump actually fail when the red message appears or it gets disabled because it has reached the max amount of actuations? If it doesn't actually fail why was it designed this way? If one was to reset the sbc it can continue working and may potentially never break? obviously not recommended but just interested. Now that these cars are starting to get out of coverage for the sbc, more people should start looking into rebuilding them.
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Originally Posted by Mikeki7
Does the sbc pump actually fail when the red message appears or it gets disabled because it has reached the max amount of actuations? If it doesn't actually fail why was it designed this way? If one was to reset the sbc it can continue working and may potentially never break? obviously not recommended but just interested. Now that these cars are starting to get out of coverage for the sbc, more people should start looking into rebuilding them.
I assume it was designed this way so preventative maintenence would occur before an actual catastrophic failure on the highway. Kinda like our fuel pump assembly:-).
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Originally Posted by WANTED!!
Under 80k.
well thats comforting ...im at 79k
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Originally Posted by veryswag
well thats comforting ...im at 79k
you??? I'm at 88K


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