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Old 01-08-2015 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocman8
on the e55 it usually runs about 6 hrs including diagnosis. average labor rate around 150-175 an hr.
wow this is normal? ..why is it this long of a job
Old 01-08-2015 | 04:11 PM
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More engine braking, less of the slow down pedal. (I'm at 124K). I'll look at my brake counter numbers next time I hook up SDS.
Old 01-08-2015 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000UZJ
you??? I'm at 88K

LOL ..i don't know what worries me more, sbc failure or airmatic
Old 01-08-2015 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by veryswag
LOL ..i don't know what worries me more, sbc failure or airmatic
The whole car makes me nervous. Maybe I am . I do love it though. It's like the lottery...you may, you may not and if you do you don't know how much or when.
Old 01-08-2015 | 05:12 PM
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I just saw the list of fixes performed by me and the first owner of the car. Which was done meticulously @ MB… I noticed something about SBC bracket, and also the service rep at MB dealer told me there was pink paint on the SBC plug. That means something was repaired or replaced. Not sure what they means. Anyone care to shed some light on this?

I had them run my vin and they said all the corrections and updates have been performed and your car is perfect. Whatever that means.
Old 01-08-2015 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by veryswag
wow this is normal? ..why is it this long of a job
the replacement of the part isn't really what takes a long time its the actual activation, bleeding, testing the new unit that takes so long.

also its not really dependent on mileage its the number of stops. i have 116k with the original and no software update. still have 10 months of warranty though.
Old 01-08-2015 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000UZJ
The whole car makes me nervous. Maybe I am . I do love it though. It's like the lottery...you may, you may not and if you do you don't know how much or when.
despite random annoying issues that you will eventually have to deal, i don't know any e55 owner not in love with their car. 1 of few cars that comes standard with unlimited smiles ..can't beat that
Old 01-09-2015 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by veryswag
LOL ..i don't know what worries me more, sbc failure or airmatic
Had my fronts go on that too, but it's not too bad to work on. With STAR I got that down to about 40 minutes per front shock.

You know what would have been great on MBs part when designing this car? A dash message like with almost everything else that says"SBC Service Due, Visit Workshop" BEFORE about, oh, say a decent chunk before the SBC says "F U". That just might have been smart.
Old 01-09-2015 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by WANTED!!
Had my fronts go on that too, but it's not too bad to work on. With STAR I got that down to about 40 minutes per front shock.

You know what would have been great on MBs part when designing this car? A dash message like with almost everything else that says"SBC Service Due, Visit Workshop" BEFORE about, oh, say a decent chunk before the SBC says "F U". That just might have been smart.
Maybe you can answer me...I talked with my service guy at RBM Atlanta and he stated at my next service they will be working on the SBC unit (along with many other things). He had mentioned the hydraulic reservoir and fluid. I would have to call back and verify. I have never had any brake messages or SBC issues.
Old 01-09-2015 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000UZJ
Maybe you can answer me...I talked with my service guy at RBM Atlanta and he stated at my next service they will be working on the SBC unit (along with many other things). He had mentioned the hydraulic reservoir and fluid. I would have to call back and verify. I have never had any brake messages or SBC issues.
What's the question? Are you asking why they're doing it despite no warning message?
Old 01-09-2015 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocman8
the replacement of the part isn't really what takes a long time its the actual activation, bleeding, testing the new unit that takes so long.

also its not really dependent on mileage its the number of stops. i have 116k with the original and no software update. still have 10 months of warranty though.
116K that sounds a lot better. i guess checking the brake activations counter is good way to find out if the previous owner lied about "All highway miles"
Old 01-09-2015 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by WANTED!!
Had my fronts go on that too, but it's not too bad to work on. With STAR I got that down to about 40 minutes per front shock.

You know what would have been great on MBs part when designing this car? A dash message like with almost everything else that says"SBC Service Due, Visit Workshop" BEFORE about, oh, say a decent chunk before the SBC says "F U". That just might have been smart.
yea its strange this isn't a built-in system message.. would also make things a lot easier if i could check the number of activations through the dash, even if through a hidden menu or something ...sure would be a lot easier than through SDS...
Old 01-09-2015 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000UZJ
Maybe you can answer me...I talked with my service guy at RBM Atlanta and he stated at my next service they will be working on the SBC unit (along with many other things). He had mentioned the hydraulic reservoir and fluid. I would have to call back and verify. I have never had any brake messages or SBC issues.
he probably just means you will do a b service and they will bleed the brakes on the sbc system. make sure they check the service life as part of the service. most don't check it.
Old 01-11-2015 | 08:40 PM
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I got the dreaded SBC light last week and took the car in to the dealer and waiting to get the phone call from the SA. Where did you guys find the SBC pump? I haven't checked the dealer for their price but I can't find it online (A0054318112). Always helps to have some price leverage. Thanks in advance!
Old 01-12-2015 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bbearden
I got the dreaded SBC light last week and took the car in to the dealer and waiting to get the phone call from the SA. Where did you guys find the SBC pump? I haven't checked the dealer for their price but I can't find it online (A0054318112). Always helps to have some price leverage. Thanks in advance!
I had some trouble finding the pump online too. I went through the catalog on oe parts and found this:

http://www.oediscountparts.com/parts...%20pump%20assy


Can anyone verify this is the right part?


Also found this for a good price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OLD-STOCK-MERCEDES-BENZ-HYDRAULIC-PRESSURE-REGULATOR-0054317312-/360732037464?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53fd4e1158&vxp=mtr

Listing says "Old Stock..." ..did MB start using an updated part w/ new part # ??

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Old 01-12-2015 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by veryswag
I had some trouble finding the pump online too. I went through the catalog on oe parts and found this:

http://www.oediscountparts.com/parts...%20pump%20assy


Can anyone verify this is the right part?


Also found this for a good price:

New Old Stock Mercedes Benz Hydraulic Pressure Regulator 0054317312 | eBay


Listing says "Old Stock..." ..did MB start using an updated part w/ new part # ??
The pricing looks to be about right. I think this might be it...

The part on eBay looks legit as well.

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Old 01-12-2015 | 02:15 PM
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I got about 49k miles on my 06, should i Be worried? Also, my service D is coming up next month, can my INDY verify the number of cycles I have left on my SBC?
Old 01-12-2015 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by veryswag
I had some trouble finding the pump online too. I went through the catalog on oe parts and found this:

http://www.oediscountparts.com/parts...%20pump%20assy


Can anyone verify this is the right part?


Also found this for a good price:

New Old Stock Mercedes Benz Hydraulic Pressure Regulator 0054317312 | eBay


Listing says "Old Stock..." ..did MB start using an updated part w/ new part # ??
You can get an exchange unit from Bosch for about half the price of a new unit from MB.
Old 01-12-2015 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by veryswag
LOL ..i don't know what worries me more, sbc failure or airmatic
Whiney baby, try having ABC suspension and coilpack failures

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Old 01-12-2015 | 09:52 PM
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Here is the Site

https://www.bosch-repair-service.com...0A0BED54655217
Old 01-13-2015 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AgSilver
You can get an exchange unit from Bosch for about half the price of a new unit from MB.
While that's true, what's the turn around time? Especially if I have to send it to the UK to get the work done.
Old 01-13-2015 | 09:36 AM
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I would think you pay core charge till you send yours and they refund. Most Companies do business like that.

I have the White BRAKE Message. I put it on DAS and I exceeded my Brake Count, So I'm going to just reset my Count too Zero and Re-Activate the SBC Pump. but brakes work fine without it.

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Old 01-13-2015 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AgSilver
You can get an exchange unit from Bosch for about half the price of a new unit from MB.
Originally Posted by cadbob

Bosch site says 480.00 GBP which comes out to $725 USD. why go through the hassle, ebay price is exactly the same for brand new part shipped from USA


I keep finding 2 sets of part #s for the same part. Whats the difference between these parts ?


0084319812 ; 0054317112; 0054319712

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OLD-STOCK-MERCEDES-BENZ-HYDRAULIC-PRESSURE-REGULATOR-0054319712/360932226866?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27674%26meid%3D2e372c2346ab4e8f9e5f986c2ffa8ad4%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D360732037464&rt=nc



0054317312 ; 0054318112

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OLD-STOCK-MERCEDES-BENZ-HYDRAULIC-PRESSURE-REGULATOR-0054317312-/360732037464?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53fd4e1158&vxp=mtr
Old 01-13-2015 | 11:33 PM
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The dealer wants $2122 to replace the SBC pump. Knowing roughly what the range of costs for the part are online, it seems to me their price is on the high side. Curious what range of prices others here have had to pay for this repair?
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The pump has the 10 warranty on it, unlimited mileage. The pump comes with the new pressure resv. Pump/resv together is about $750~. And even though its one unit like that if you get message and its the pressure resv/accumulator then its on you. Thanks MB!!

The resv can be bought sep and is about $400~. If you if get the message for the resv pressure then whole replacement is really the better option but I rolled the dice and am doing the resv only.


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