W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 01:22 AM
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Hey guys. I'm new to these cars. Although I am familiar with building other cars these are a ball game of their own. My E55 is completely stock as of now. 010 pump is it but still stock.
I have this fear of blowing any motor up from running lean so I'll install the AEM wideband this week to keep an eye on it a little bit. But... Where do I start? Aside from headers I know they do great but I would like to keep the car somewhat quiet and to be honest I'm not looking forward to a header I stall on this car. Lol my goal is to achieve 500-550whp on motor. May add some spray in the future. I was thinking of taking care of some of the cooling issues first (fabtech HE, split cooling kit) and then loop the rail, also deleting secondary cats and resonator soon then I'll do the pulley and tune. Is it safe to say that could reach my goal? Oh and what intake does everyone recommend? Any and all input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLLSX
Hey guys. I'm new to these cars. Although I am familiar with building other cars these are a ball game of their own. My E55 is completely stock as of now. 010 pump is it but still stock.
I have this fear of blowing any motor up from running lean so I'll install the AEM wideband this week to keep an eye on it a little bit. But... Where do I start? Aside from headers I know they do great but I would like to keep the car somewhat quiet and to be honest I'm not looking forward to a header I stall on this car. Lol my goal is to achieve 500-550whp on motor. May add some spray in the future. I was thinking of taking care of some of the cooling issues first (fabtech HE, split cooling kit) and then loop the rail, also deleting secondary cats and resonator soon then I'll do the pulley and tune. Is it safe to say that could reach my goal? Oh and what intake does everyone recommend? Any and all input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
Follow anyone of the setups that I listed to reach your goal. It's that simple. This thread was created so one could duplicate the mods that WORK. Pick a setup and duplicate it.

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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 02:23 AM
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Those above list, need more to it. Some people are interested in E.T, while others are interested in Trap speed, and others care less.
Is there any way, to list mods that will get you the best E.T, and ofcourse, best Trap speed. And also, what trap speed will yield a 10 sec pass? Thank!
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 02:28 AM
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Those above list, need more to it. Some people are interested in E.T, while others are interested in Trap speed, and others care less.
Is there any way, to list mods that will get you the best E.T, and ofcourse, best Trap speed. And also, what trap speed will yield a 10 sec pass? Thank!
Please read post 9
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 07:57 AM
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I'm still lurking . The best dyno I had was 619rwhp but found out my intake was killing me on the track so I ran it with no filters. I think that was good for another 20 on the dyno. The car is sitting in the garage with no motor still. Business blew up in 2013 and we just finished building a house so I was pretty busy. Chris (Sir-Boost-A-lot) has the engine. Guess Ill send him a text and finally get the ball rolling again . I bought a new Shelby to keep me going until then. Haven't took it to the track yet but pretty sure I'll run well into the 10's the first time out and in the 9's after that. They're so easy to go fast.
Glad your still here!

Yeah, I guess a new Shelby might distract from the rebuild..lol.

Hope to see your beast run again in the future.
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 08:37 AM
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I like your list, and I see a lot of questions coming about.
The list has the parts that people have used to accomplish some very good et's, and it doesn't matter which one is done first, just as long as everything is done on the list. (cooling is very important)
Don't forget to about data logging also.
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 09:01 AM
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^^ +1 on the data logging it would have saved me a lot of [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅]

Definately some beasts leading this thread. Pretty much just commenting so I can keep tabs on any updates.

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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 12:47 PM
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Nice list. Interesting list of product vendors used.

When a car has run fast it basically proves the product at least adds performance. If you wanna go that fast follow the recipe that was given by others.

You guys remember the company formerly known as RTR is the reason why one of the cars on the list has been out of commission for years
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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those are some big *** pulleys being ran
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 05:46 PM
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those are some big *** pulleys being ran
Big number and low sec passes require big number pulleys and even bigger attention to cooling to make it all work.
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 08:15 PM
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 10:03 PM
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The list didn't list numbers. It would be a lot easier to follow a mod list if you knew which one produced what power/TQ. And if they are daily driven or not. So many different questions. I daily drive my car. Not a ton of miles everyday but it gets used every day. So reliability is huge, don't care about has mileage or anything. Would kind like to keep it low key. But like I said I wouldnt of posted if the lists had numbers to what the cars made.
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 11:39 PM
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The problem with that, is dynos can lie. The only measure I've come to trust is the 1/4 mile, and the occasional run-in with sport bikes.
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLLSX
The list didn't list numbers. It would be a lot easier to follow a mod list if you knew which one produced what power/TQ. And if they are daily driven or not. So many different questions. I daily drive my car. Not a ton of miles everyday but it gets used every day. So reliability is huge, don't care about has mileage or anything. Would kind like to keep it low key. But like I said I wouldnt of posted if the lists had numbers to what the cars made.
Number's don't mean squat as there are plenty of factors that go into achieving numbers. Personally I couldn't tell you what my numbers are because I never dyno'd the car. All of the cars can be driven daily and they pretty much produce the same amount of power (E55rocket) may be pushing a few more ponies but the mods listed (if you want numbers) will produce between 500-575rwhp & 600-700ftlbs again that won't mean much as Bassn07 dyno'd at 447rwhp and ran 10.7@131 which is another reason why there aren't any numbers with each mod list. The point of the list is to help the new guys out by giving them the formula to go fast.

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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 02:16 AM
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^^^Precisely...

And car mods account for less than a driver mod, no matter the badge on the car.
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 02:43 AM
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I'm thinkng we should have a thread that is more precise as to what mods should get you out of 12 sec to high 11's, and mods that will get you from high 11's to mid and low 11's, and mods that should get you into the 10's. Not every one is trying to achieve a 10 sec goal. I just need some mods that will make me go a little faster without the fear of car breaking down, eventhough, I don't daily drive the car. I think this will better help some members to make a choice of what their goals are. Just a thought...
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by T9ja
I'm thinkng we should have a thread that is more precise as to what mods should get you out of 12 sec to high 11's, and mods that will get you from high 11's to mid and low 11's, and mods that should get you into the 10's. Not every one is trying to achieve a 10 sec goal. I just need some mods that will make me go a little faster without the fear of car breaking down, eventhough, I don't daily drive the car. I think this will better help some members to make a choice of what their goals are. Just a thought...
I'm more interested in trap speed than ET or dyno numbers. Trap speed basically takes tires and driver skill out of the equation and tells you how much power the car is actually making.
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by T9ja
I'm thinkng we should have a thread that is more precise as to what mods should get you out of 12 sec to high 11's, and mods that will get you from high 11's to mid and low 11's, and mods that should get you into the 10's. Not every one is trying to achieve a 10 sec goal. I just need some mods that will make me go a little faster without the fear of car breaking down, eventhough, I don't daily drive the car. I think this will better help some members to make a choice of what their goals are. Just a thought...
Agreed, we need stratification based on MPH or ET (whatever)

12.0 - 12.5
11.5 - 12.0
11.0 - 11.5

etc..

Then users can list in their combos. It will give everyone an easy way of gauging approximately what they need to achieve their ET goals.
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 10:25 AM
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I like the list... nice to be able to copy ideas... but it would be great if people could agree on what mods you should start with and what next and so on...

Great post
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 10:27 AM
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I'm more interested in trap speed than ET or dyno numbers. Trap speed basically takes tires and driver skill out of the equation and tells you how much power the car is actually making.
It doesn't 100% work like that. A bad 60ft will almost always trap higher than a lower one of that makes any sense. I usually trapped high 132's and a couple 133. I would usually weigh in right around 4400lbs.
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by e55amgrocket
It doesn't 100% work like that. A bad 60ft will almost always trap higher than a lower one of that makes any sense. I usually trapped high 132's and a couple 133. I would usually weigh in right around 4400lbs.
I agree with that, but only a couple MPH difference at the end between a good and bad 60'. I could be wrong since I haven't been to the strip in a long time.

A dyno can vary by 50hp depending on the dyno itself

ET can vary by .5 sec from run to run - especially if on street tires, bog or spin, etc.

I still think trap speed is the best (or most consistent) indicator of power.
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 12:01 PM
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But a couple MPH is about the same as a high and low reading dyno. That's why I don't worry about dyno numbers
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Originally Posted by e55amgrocket
But a couple MPH is about the same as a high and low reading dyno. That's why I don't worry about dyno numbers
Last car I had at the track was a fox body mustang trapping at 100mph. Trap speed only varied by a couple MPH, like 98-100. Higher if I spun. Lower if it hooked.

What kind of variance do you see at 130mph?
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 01:33 PM
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I'm still lurking . The best dyno I had was 619rwhp but found out my intake was killing me on the track so I ran it with no filters. I think that was good for another 20 on the dyno. The car is sitting in the garage with no motor still. Business blew up in 2013 and we just finished building a house so I was pretty busy. Chris (Sir-Boost-A-lot) has the engine. Guess Ill send him a text and finally get the ball rolling again . I bought a new Shelby to keep me going until then. Haven't took it to the track yet but pretty sure I'll run well into the 10's the first time out and in the 9's after that. They're so easy to go fast.
Good stuff, Do you mind sharing what you did differently to get like 70+ or - whp more then everyone else with previously mentioned power mods?
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by e55amgrocket
It doesn't 100% work like that. A bad 60ft will almost always trap higher than a lower one of that makes any sense. I usually trapped high 132's and a couple 133. I would usually weigh in right around 4400lbs.
Anything above 130 is Moving.. If you trapped 133 See my list of mods and even though I don't 1/4 mile her I know she would run in the 10's if I don't blow it This is a very good thread to help guys achieve speed in similar but different ways..
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