I have ARPs on stock rods.. but the rest of my engine is a little different as well

 

Excuse me fellas, but after all the insults and personal attacks at each other .. DOES ANY ONE HAVE A LEGITIMATE " dyno sheet from any kind of dyno on how much power or ET slips on these set-ups Also how much power does these built 5.6 or 5.7 blocks with weistec s/c with a 82mm tb or 90mm tb . Thanks We all would appreciate it.

 

STFU?

 

I have time slips with stock displacement built motor (stock cams) and Weistec s/c with 90mm TB (courtesy of SirBoostAlot, the TB inlet looks like it came that way from Weistec). First day at the track with Jerry remote tuning the car was able to trap 143.5mph in the 1/4 (Only 17PSI of boost and pulley'd to make over 20, have logs if needed). I believe there is only 1 mercedes that I know of that has trapped higher but I could be wrong. Definitely the highest 55 trap. There are a bunch of supporting mods and the car wasn't hooking due to a very bad alignment but that should give you an idea of how much power the setup can potentially make (I would say it's making over 700whp). There's alot left on the table too. Keep in mind this car is driven to the track and driven home from the track, no trailer queen here. Let me know if you have any other questions.

 

How about you find out for yourself and update the group.

Thanks.

 

What does your car weigh?

 

That's not how things work around here. Lots of yapping/hating and no running.
I don't remember exactly but race weight was around 3700 or 3750. I will be back at the track soon and throw it on the scales and report back. It is significantly lighter than the E55 even in stock form (keep in mind I've ADDED lots of weight including sleeves, supercharger, heavy duty axles, bigger diff, trunk tank, etc but I also removed seats when I trapped 143.5 before). Although none of the fastest E55's are running full weight anyway

 

Oh Wow, that's about 500+ lbs less than a typical E55. That should help a lot, kewl thanks for info and damn fast ride

 

Ask a simple questions and you get 1 real answer from a legit person Blackbenz and bunch of ***-HOLE comments ... from others. This forum isnt about AMG performance is about ego's and ***-holes ..

 

I see many types of enthusiast groups go through these cycles. Because each car is different, they go on different tangents or just fizzle out. But the e55 is clearly going through a stage where many new owners are not.... Super mechanically inclined. Other newer models may never get to the part where real petrol heads own the cars.

There are some people here that know quite a bit, but also some who believe that there is money to be made on a very small production run. So sharing is spotty.

Luckily it's still just a machine, and can be modified like any other machine. Just takes some effort and research.

 

I believe another member here referred to this as the "ricer stage." This is the point where a performance car becomes cheap enough for the unwashed masses to buy it, modify it (ghetto style) and then drive it into the ground because they can't afford the repairs, all the while the value of the model drops to the point where it doesn't make sense to repair it, thus leaving around only a few nice examples of said vehicle. I previously owned a Grand Prix GTP, it was super clean and now you just don't see them on the road anymore, they are in the junk yards. The E55 is currently in this "ricer stage" and as the prices continue to drop and the mileage continues to rack up there will be fewer on the road in the coming years. There will be quite a few pristine examples parked in garages however...the 50-60k mile cars... they sold somewhere around 8,000 E55's in the U.S. alone I believe, during the economic heyday. Probably a record AMG selling model in the U.S. and I'd bet the C63 was next in line.

 

You left out the part about peni$ size. (or lack of)

 

Absolutely right, mr monkey. I was here in '06 and the members were a little different in those days. Experimenting with a new platform back then and worked pretty well together with new ideas. Kinda felt like family. Now? Well.......anyone can buy a $20k car and rice it out. Seems to be a sh*t ton of overnight experts now.

It's a dated platform, folks. With just a tune......a new Audi will get you near mid 10's in the 1/4. And yet, some of you call out and d*ck measure over a few tenths with each other like it's a monster? Really? It's kinda like neighborhoods. Once you buy into $400k and above.........the trash neighbor factor diminishes.

Long live mental midgets and their insecure call outs. Some should stop acting like OG'S here.

 

You are correct greaser, maintenance is still for a 90k car, I have seen guys not drive their cars for weeks sometimes months if a strut goes out or even when the fuel pumps were bad some were driving around with crazy gas fumes to not pay the replacement

 

I don't know about the ricer stage, although I don't doubt it. For me, the new cars I like as a replacement are pricey or if used would still take a few bucks to mod in addition to the price to acquire it. For me, it made more sense to just keep my wagon and beef up engine. This project is not exactly cheap and I never really thought of it. But, when I got the unexpected offer on my wagon I started thinking and decided to take this path.

 

For those of you with a beefed up engine and Weistec SC, what kind of boost levels are you running? And, how are you getting it.

I am asking because my understanding is that 17 psi is max boost (unless you have a map clamp).

 

I'm coming in late (and will always keep my wagon too), but I don't see the point of opening the engine up. With a good tune and the right exhaust, you can get some monster power. Why invest in a car worth less than $20K?

I look a different approach. Left the E55 wagon alone and bought it a friend -- an 05 SL65.

 

Because I want to. I'm not investing. This wagon is something I enjoy (like golf).

 

Why would anyone call spending money on a car (ANY CAR, any price) an investment? Best case scenario, you get your money back (classic cars). Normal case you lose everything you spent. Worst case your car blows and you scrap the remainder.

 

I'm also late to the party. Recently bought a CLS 55 AMG that was converted to a twin turbo. My guess that for the past year or so, it has not been well taken care of. The car never had air filters, only wire mesh over the turbos. Once it's delivered I can run a leakdown test.

Hoping not to get bashed here but....how did the Carillo rods work out? Pauter makes rods for $2k. Any part numbers for ARP? I see Darton sleeves are about $1600 and I can drive the block to Oceanside. Then there is the question of pistons and CR. Yeay fun! Honestly, this car was fast enough on pump gas (10.9 at 128 apparently). A few more hp tweaks to compensate for a 91 tune is fine for me.

 

That's like marriage lol
No divorce
Divorce
Real bad divorce

 

The stock static compression is 7.9:1 so that junk 91 should be just fine. What car is this? I only know of one turbo CLS and it was compound boost. Feel free to PM me, I'd like to hear more

 

If it's black it's bihns (powerhaus shop from jersey)

 

Yes, it is/was Binh's from Powerhaus. The only information I could get from them was that they had not serviced the car in over a year. I emailed someone named Jake@eurocharged.com and did not get a response. The motor itself is stock.

It's unfortunate that we can only get crap 91 in California. E85 is definitely the route to go in that state if you want power. So stock CR is 7.9:1 and the SLR is 8.8:1 at 13 of boost? I'm a big fan of building the bottom end right and only doing it once. My 300zxtt survived 15 years of abuse and I just rebuilt it again (Eagle rods, Ross pistons, Cometic, ARP, balanced). Suggestions how to squeeze reliable power out of these motors would be greatly appreciated.

Please remember, fellow Mercedes builders aren't the enemy!

 

If that's the car that was a well put together kit. Has a lot of potential.