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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 11:48 PM
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drive shaft support bearing? (Tailshaft center bearing)

Ahh this is pissing me off no end.

I ordered a replacement center bearing hanger the rubber bit and then the bearing off pelican parts. Went to install it and the bearing is to small for my e55's drive shaft spigot.

The original bearing measures about 32mm inside diameter the replacement is 30 so its not going to fit.


Im in New Zealand when I contacted pelican parts they gave me the flick saying my car is the jap version so not the american one and their parts catalogue is for american ones only.... meh whatever I thought the bearing cost me like 20 bucks so I didnt care....

So I contact the NZ mercedes outlet and get a bearing sent to me using my VIN number!!! ITS STILL THE WRONG FRIKKING ONE!!! So yeah now im pissed!

What am I to do? Obviously I need to contact NZ mercedes again and get them to correct this but how do I work out for sure what part no this bearing I need is so this isnt cocked up again?

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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 03:36 AM
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Take the bearing that is in it out, and go to a bearing supply store. Should have you sorted pretty quickly.
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 04:47 AM
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and you can go with OEM bearing as well..!

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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 05:13 AM
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Take the bearing that is in it out, and go to a bearing supply store. Should have you sorted pretty quickly.

That was the first thing I tried. Nobody in this country has this damn bearing.
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
^+1^,

and you can go with OEM bearing as well..!

Attachment 323982

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That looks like the right one the two I got are thicker in the middle race so only 30mm inside. That looks like the one that came off except mine has black seals and is a *** brand bearing with the number 805259


So does anybody know where I can order this bearing from that is for SURE the right one? As if I end up with three of these wrong bearings im probably just going to start a bearing shop...
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 05:43 AM
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MB provides Red or Black, that depends on production line:-

MB part #: "008 981 51 25",,

drive shaft support bearing?   (Tailshaft center bearing)-ecs-0089815125.jpg

*you can get them from dealer/E-Bay/ECS tuning/AutohausAZ..

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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 02:55 PM
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^ We have that part number above as well HERE. Is that the one you initially got? If not, may be able to do a return for the right one if you want. Image below:

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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 10:24 PM
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Pelican,

Im not sure if your saying you have another bearing or what?

That picture is the same wrong bearing I already have I can tell straight away due to the thickness of the inner race. My original bearing is like 2.5mm thick in that area whereas these wrong ones I keep getting are 4-4.5mm thick in that area.

What I need is the same dimension and looking bearing with a 32mm hole in the middle of it!!! The one you have pictured is clearly a 30mm hole one.

Nobody seems to be able to supply this which I find utterly unbelievable. As I cant have the only 2004 e55 amg with a 32mm spigot tail shaft!!!!

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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 10:27 PM
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^^^ Although correct me if im wrong. All I need is a bearing with 32mm inside diameter
and the rest the same as the other one you sent me?

Im looking at that pic again and im wondering due to the seal thickness that it might be 32mm afterall? But its the same part no as the two I already have....


..... There must be another model that runs this 32mm drive shaft.
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 10:41 PM
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The bearing in the middle is what came off my car.

You can clearly see the difference.
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 11:12 PM
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Might of had some success now I rang another mercedes dealership and found a more onto it parts guy and he seems to think there is another part no but he's going to check it all out with all the info iv given him and make sure its the right one this time.
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 05:46 AM
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Don't go with any other aftermarket brand(if NOT sure about it),

just get OEM bearing #: "008 981 51 25",,

{{ less hesitate>>less time>>>more confident }}..!!

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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
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and you can go with OEM bearing as well..!

Attachment 323982

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Drive Shaft Bearing - GENUINE MERCEDES < $40

yup - pretty inexpensive given it's purpose
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 07:23 PM
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Uhhh,...... that bearing doesnt fit!!

Im not sure if im not being clear enough?


The orange seal bearing I pictured above is from mercedes NZ in gen oem mercedes packaging. (its made in taiwan and cost me like 70 or 80 USD!!!!) So yeah its getting sent back!!!!!
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by austingtir
Uhhh,...... that bearing doesnt fit!!

Im not sure if im not being clear enough?


The orange seal bearing I pictured above is from mercedes NZ in gen oem mercedes packaging. (its made in taiwan and cost me like 70 or 80 USD!!!!) So yeah its getting sent back!!!!!
Something is odd. Can you take a pic of your driveshaft and point in the pic the location / side of the bearing on the shaft you are trying to replace?

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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jcjmw
Something is odd. Can you take a pic of your driveshaft and point in the pic the location / side of the bearing on the shaft you are trying to replace?

In post number 9 there is an exploded parts drawing its number 70.


Mercedes has put a different driveshaft in my car for whatever reason... I would expect they've run out of the normal one everyone else appears to have during production and started putting these 32mm driveshafts on instead of the 30. That seems to be the only simple explanation to me.

I have looked at the drive shaft and its dated 2004 the same as my car so its most likely the original driveshaft.

I am dealing with a mercedes dealer now here in NZ trying to sort this out.

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Does your drive shaft slip apart, or is it held together with a clamp nut?
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 11:57 PM
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Does your drive shaft slip apart, or is it held together with a clamp nut?

It slips apart its the same layout as the drawing in post 9.
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Old Jan 29, 2016 | 12:26 AM
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Ok. Well, I pulled this info for the R&R of the bearing.



Ask your contact to look up the details of the 32mm bearing via AR41.10-P-0100-05DA. It should list compatible vehicles within the document.
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^^ Thank you this is what im after!
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Originally Posted by austingtir
In post number 9 there is an exploded parts drawing its number 70.


Mercedes has put a different driveshaft in my car for whatever reason... I would expect they've run out of the normal one everyone else appears to have during production and started putting these 32mm driveshafts on instead of the 30. That seems to be the only simple explanation to me.

I have looked at the drive shaft and its dated 2004 the same as my car so its most likely the original driveshaft.

I am dealing with a mercedes dealer now here in NZ trying to sort this out.
I understand. But, I meant an actually pic of your car driveshaft.
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Hey question for you, can you replace just the centering bearing without the bushing? Mine got all ****ty when i removed my diff.
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Hey question for you, can you replace just the centering bearing without the bushing? Mine got all ****ty when i removed my diff.

Hmm not sure im reading that right... You mean the centre hanger? or the bearing?? Which one is buggered?

The bearing presses into the center hanger and that assembly presses onto the driveshaft spigot.

If the rubber bushing is fine then you need to replace the bearing. The opposite if the bearing is stuffed.

Id be using lock tight on the bolts on the guido if your removing it because I reckon those use one time lock nuts which is why you get a new set of bolts when you buy a guido.


Gotta wait till thursday from my Merc contact over here to see where my ordeal takes me he seems to think hes figured it out though..... I wont hold my breath.
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Pelican,

Im not sure if your saying you have another bearing or what?

That picture is the same wrong bearing I already have I can tell straight away due to the thickness of the inner race. My original bearing is like 2.5mm thick in that area whereas these wrong ones I keep getting are 4-4.5mm thick in that area.

What I need is the same dimension and looking bearing with a 32mm hole in the middle of it!!! The one you have pictured is clearly a 30mm hole one.

Nobody seems to be able to supply this which I find utterly unbelievable. As I cant have the only 2004 e55 amg with a 32mm spigot tail shaft!!!!
Hi There.
I exactly have the same problem with my S55 AMG Compressor. All suppliers, in reaction to me quoting Mercedes part numbers(s) send me bearings with incorrect inner diameters (28 & 30) I also need 31.5/32 mm but when you ask for "Specifications" of their product they cannot tell you. I have now ask Pelican Parts to physically measure Inner/Outer and Width of the bearing supplied as Mercedes A008-981-51-215. Lets see. Like you said it is ridiculous the amount of effort it requires to get a simple bearing.
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The thing is when I finally did get the right bearing. It still had the exact same part number as the original bearing I got from MB.

So I never really did get to the bottom of it.

If you look at the wis documents above it clearly shows there are two different bearings.

I think its just a case of finding a parts guy who's willing to dig deeper into wis and all that guff or send them a copy of that one above and get them to search for that bearing off that document.

I ended up ringing about 4 separate MB dealers before I got someone who seemed willing to go the extra mile.
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