210lvr

I will get logging equipment before the kit goes on so I can get a well done dyno tune. Ideally I'd also like to put some gauges in the car for on the fly readings. Should be a fun project

BlackHammer

99% "yes" but sometimes I live in that 1%...
I ordered the exact item that was recommended in the link and the mechanic said "this one monitors everything".

Hulk

Look at the dashdaq called Ndash now, it has gauges

210lvr

Thanks Hulk! 😎

C32owner

Why do you need a boost sensor? That can be read thru the obd on the Ndash

Rocman8

Because the more values you read through obd the slower reaction time it has and you don't get true real time data. As stated before it is not recommended to pull more than intake temp and timing from obd. All other values should be stand alone.

Hulk

^^^^ Correct!

If zeitronix could find out the calculation for the iat through their input channel on the zt2 then you would only need 1 parameter through the obd, timing and that's it


I have asked them countless times but they say they need a big demand to waste time on that for us lol

210lvr

I ended up doing the zt2 with zr2 multi gauge. Also bought their air intake temp sensor. So I will have a 2 gauge pod made for the aq and zr2 gauge and use the zr2 gauge for iat and afr. I may eventually buy the boost sensor and wire that in to the zr2 but I'm not super concerned about that just yet. I'd probably buy a separate gauge for that if needed but I think I'd rather just look over boost in the log instead as I don't consider that a need to know parameter vs the other ones. Should be fun, I'm excited

Mike450

Zt2 and Zr2 is a solid choice. You'll love it. Simple install and easy to configure.

Hulk

It is but remember because the ndash/dashdaq is not installed you can't start logging at the push of a button

forcefed4door

Should take it to the track and see what the car actually does instead of racing on the highway. I'm all for racing on the highway, but it's pointless of you don't know what your car can actually do or is suppose to do

dchl21

get a meziere pump with ec he and you will be laughing. I have 180mm / kleeman ...with those cooling I never get heat soaked and im sure as hell would mad length on a 5.0 easily.

210lvr

Results:
Aquamist
50/50 meth mix
0.8mm nozzle (per jmb614 and stevebez posts, jmb614 actually uses a 0.7mm)
Stock controller settings
Today: 87*f
IAT: 99*f
55-130mph

On colder days (75*f) I've seen 89*f IAT
100% water resulted in IATs about 15* higher than with the mix.

Glad it's all over with. Don't need any other cooling mods IMO I need new PSS before we run again though. Esp light comes on at 55mph so I need some more rubber.

I wouldn't be so sure on putting mad lengths on a lightly modded and tuned 5.0 either. I figured the same thing. Just saying. What they lack in torque (and that's a fact compared to a modded e55) they certainly make up for in top end. I've taken a ride in his 5.0 and Im still trying to figure out how he even kept my brake light in sight let alone keep up.

dllhg

Lightly modded 5.0 aren't very fast. If he is keeping up there is either something wrong with your car or he isn't lightly modded. Full bolts ons an tune they trap what a bone stock E55 does. I am guessing something is wrong with your tune or its the 50/50 mix. you should run 100% meth on a positive displacement blower. I guessing you would be dissapointed at the track. You probably have a lot more TQ down low that stock but I bet it is slower up top

Ruthle55

Wrong.

Bone stock e55s don't trap 118-120.

Intake manifold/headers/tune is a low 120mph 5.0.

Stop bench racing.

dllhg

Right back at you. You are wrong.

Quite a few members in here have run 11.7-11.9s and trapped in that range stock.

5.0 including new ones are running high 12s and trapping 110-112 MPH stock. Not impressive at all.


13 year old Bolt on E55s go 10s and typically trap 125-130 MPH.

Bolt on coyote typically go mid to higher 11s and trap 118 .....



Pay attention, he clearly said minor bolt on not full bolt ons with gears, stall weight reduction etc etc. Yeah those guys go faster.

Ruthle55

No.

Check the 10 second page. Hardly anyone, if at all, without serious cooling mods (which aren't bolt ons) or meth/racegas/e85 are trapping higher than 125 or going 10s. Those aren't "bolt on" cars.

You have a couple guys who trap decently stock. Big deal. A modded 5.0 WILL go faster than a typical e55. Especially one on a box tune and no cooling mods. Sorry.

Ls1toAMG

Bottom line is this. You can't run a 77mm pulley with stock cooling. Should have known better. Research combos and results. IMO it's not even effective running one with stock exhaust manifolds. It's like trying to breath through a straw. With stock cooling an 84mm car will beat you. If the 84mm has headers even shortys he will pull 6'cars on the highway. Cooling is the key. I have seen a 55 with a clutched 84 and shortys give a hellcat a very close race and pulled on him after 120. He was cooled very well. Our intercoolers suck they need a lot of help to dump the heat

dllhg

Not sure why I am bothering but seriously you are just wrong in so many ways.

I have personally seen a bolt on E55 go 10s at a track that has the crappiest track prep ever and no magical DA either. Bolts ons. Yes he had a trunk tank but again that is a bolt on mod. No N20, no meth, no E85. Pretty sure he is on the list along with quite a few others. Heck there was several members doing it with shorty headers too.

Where are all these basic bolt on Mustangs running 10s at 125 MPH + ????

You arent making sense IMO, I'm done.

Ls1toAMG

I agree. The only non forced induction American car that impresses me is the c7. The SRT 392 and the new 5.0 still a step behind.the 3 coyotes I have ran were not as fast as I thought they would be. SRT's are everywhere here and I had a good run with one in spring. Ford is on the right track but the ls platform turns 20 this year. It's about freaking time. A c7 can run 11's stock I have seen it. A 5.0 can't. I don't buy into the whole 5.0 thing. I just don't have any interest in a car that I see 20 times on the way to work and isn't anything special. I like the shelbys yes. Have not seen another e55 in 2 years. Not one.

dllhg

Wow, that's a shame. I see lots of E55s around me. One business parking lot has two parked in there all the time.

I totally agree about the Mustangs. I think the styling is about as good as they could have done this time around and it does seem to compete well with the Camaro. Personally I'd rather have the Camaro over the Mustang .

Both cars have as much usable space inside as my Corvette. You can not fit an person behind the driver not even a child. I sat in a Camaro with my 8 year old and there was no way. Trunks are tiny. I bought a CTS-V instead. As much as my son loved and wanted me to get a Camaro he changed his mind the second he sat in it. Even he saw how much nicer the V was lol...... Of course now I am even happier with the CLS63

dllhg

So your 84 pulley and shorty headers are pulling Hellcats up top ? I would have to say that must have been a bad manual driver or it was not a Hellcat. I guess anything is possible but that seems a little odd to me. Those things are beasts up top where they have traction.

BlackHammer

Believe it. The 2nd E55 is the one being referenced..

dllhg

Cool videos. A lot of room for error with a manual though. Pulled the E55 pretty good which is what I would expect. First video the pull stopped as soon as he shifted. Seemed like he shifted early. Cool runs none the less.

210lvr

I just updated that i got my cooing under control so why are we suggesting to put water injection on my already water injected car?

This was already covered months ago (in May)by other members and that's why I did it. I appreciate the responses but you guys are just repeating information now.

I would like to know why you suggest 100% meth for a pd blower? I'm injecting after the ic core so I'm not sure how the blower is going to have any effect. I have no nozzles pre blower. I am ~12*f above ambient now (when it's hot and dry) I'm not sure if going 100% meth is worth the afr hit for a couple more degrees of cooling. My eurocharged tune sucks *** anyways and I'm working with my buddy to get a good dyno tune here when my time slot opens. I'm not gonna get tuned for meth so I don't think using 100% is for my application.