W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

E55 AMG IS Faster Then V10 M5

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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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You'd think for $80k+++ we could get some carbon fiber panels. 18 year old kids only pay a few hundred bucks for CF hoods on their Civics. It is things like that which make me ask questions.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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CF parts will be nice to reduce weight. However, I think it'll take a lot to make a meaningful difference?

So far, all the CF I have seen in cars are more decorative than weight saving. Except the F40 which I was lucky enough to experience.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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So far, all the CF I have seen in cars are more decorative than weight saving. Except the F40 which I was lucky enough to experience.
And the new Porsche GT. Beautiful!
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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The E55 already has an aluminum hood. But I know what you mean, even the $30K Subaru STi will out handle our crap E55's.

I'm going to trade my E55 in for an STi as its better performing for half the price. NOT!

The E55 does not handle like crap. SUVs handle like crap, pickups handle like crap, econo cars handle like crap, but the E55 does not handle like crap.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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Here are some comparisons regarding how the E500 "outhandles" the E55. This is from Road and Track.

E500
0-60 5.9
skidpad 0.83
slalom 64mph
60-0 122

E55
0-60 4.2
skidpad 0.84
slalom 64.5mph
60-0 118

M5 (E60)
0-60 4.8
skidpad 0.85
slalom 66.4mph
60-0 116

Man those are sure big numbers. NOT!
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by norb
Here are some comparisons regarding how the E500 "outhandles" the E55. This is from Road and Track.

E500
0-60 5.9
skidpad 0.83
slalom 64mph
60-0 122

E55
0-60 4.2
skidpad 0.84
slalom 64.5mph
60-0 118

M5 (E60)
0-60 4.8
skidpad 0.85
slalom 66.4mph
60-0 116

Man those are sure big numbers. NOT!
hmm. So you dreamed about the E60 number. So far no one has come up with a test on the E60 M5. So the dream continues.

FYI. C&D tested E60 530i with grip of 0.9G.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by ldangeli
And the new Porsche GT. Beautiful!
And the Enzo, beautiful too!

The interesting thing about carbon fiber is that you just see the paint applied to this thin piece of material with imperfection due to the texture of the carbon fiber, very interesting indeed.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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Oops, my bad. Should have put E39.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by norb
Here are some comparisons regarding how the E500 "outhandles" the E55. This is from Road and Track.

E500
0-60 5.9
skidpad 0.83
slalom 64mph
60-0 122

E55
0-60 4.2
skidpad 0.84
slalom 64.5mph
60-0 118

M5 (E60)
0-60 4.8
skidpad 0.85
slalom 66.4mph
60-0 116

Man those are sure big numbers. NOT!
Good info Norb. I always have more faith in R & T's numbers over C & D even though they're owned by the same company.

Didn't they also pick the E55 over E39 M5, RS6, etc.?
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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Didn't they also pick the E55 over E39 M5, RS6, etc.?
Yes they did...but only due to price (has anyone here paid $76,105 for their E55?). If you look at the Performance and subjective combinded ratings the outcome is a little different.

.9 better in performance ratings and 2.7 worse in subjective ratings...which obviously can be bias....hence subjective.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....ber=7&preview=


Also, two of the three testers would have taken an RS6 over the other three and a 4th and Steve millen chose the E55 but would love to borrow the RS6 for the week long Targa Rally.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....ber=6&preview=

I think the E60 M will change these standings quite a bit. It a cycle that will never end......justs rotates from one car to another. The E55 is just a monster on power....a trait rich in AMG heritage.

I also can't wait to see the weight on the E60 M.....they claim it is supposed to be lighter then the E39...don't know how they are going to do that. I hope they can though...that is the main problem with all of the the cars in this class....they all are too portly.

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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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Nice comparisons

Originally posted by Bauer
Yes they did...but only due to price (has anyone here paid $76,105 for their E55?). If you look at the Performance and subjective combinded ratings the outcome is a little different.

.9 better in performance ratings and 2.7 worse in subjective ratings...which obviously can be bias....hence subjective.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....ber=7&preview=


Also, two of the three testers would have taken an RS6 over the other three and a 4th and Steve millen chose the E55 but would love to borrow the RS6 for the week long Targa Rally.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....ber=6&preview=

I think the E60 M will change these standings quite a bit. It a cycle that will never end......justs rotates from one car to another. The E55 is just a monster on power....a trait rich in AMG heritage.

I also can't wait to see the weight on the E60 M.....they claim it is supposed to be lighter then the E39...don't know how they are going to do that. I hope they can though...that is the main problem with all of the the cars in this class....they all are too portly.
Talking about the RS6, I do recall another direct comparison between the two, was it in Sports Car International? And if I remember correctly, the E55 won as well?

Not that it matters as I would never buy the RS6 due to the resale value.

The E55 I got was at MSRP. Oh well, I agree the competition is good! Let's hope the new M5 will be exciting. Somewhat disappointed with the torque, but the interior, if it has extensive use of metallic trim pieces may not be that bad. We'll see.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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I don't track my car,I don't get to drive it on nice twisties like in BMW Commercials,"portly" translates to better high speed stability and comfort for Me,"Monster" power suits me fine so I think I'll stick to my car for a while and not replace it with new M5.
Most of my driving is at 4:30 am on a deserted highway,handling of my very "portly " car is just fine ,thank you very much.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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Here are the stats for Road and Track's test of the E60 530i.

0-60 6.7
Skidpad .86
Slalom 64.1
60-0 119

Not bad for a 6 cylinder.
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