My dyno results from Mooresville, NC
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My dyno results from Mooresville, NC
Hey all,
Last weekend I made the trip from Columbia, SC to JHRPerformance in Moorseville, NC to get adyno tune from Anthony Lawshee. It waswell worth it. My car is a pretty simplecombination. I have a 2003 E55 with 62Kmiles, 77mm clutched pulley, belt wrap kit, drop in K&N filters, project B5 long tubeswith no cats with the rest of the exhaust stock, PLM heat exchanger, and aBosch pump.
The dyno graph is attached 482 HP 553 TQ.
One of my main reasons for going was to see the AF ratio doto the exhaust smell. The smell wasdefinitely better after the tune but still noticeable. I had a EC box tune previously and was ableto gain quite a bit. I don’t want toignite some type of tuner debate with this post and I will say I was very happywith the customer service and quality of the products I have from both companies.
I saw the post a couple days ago about the Project B5headers fit/quality, I purchased mine when Shardul had the group buy going afew months ago. If you're fine with nocats and some smell then they are great for the price. My only complaint is how difficult itwill/would be to add cats. The B5's havethe bracket that mounts to the transmission near the end of the collector onthe long tubes, most other long tubes I've seen stop quite a bit furtherforward on the car. To add cats would require quite a bit ofcutting and welding and would probably make it difficult to keep the built inflex pipe which is part of what I initially liked about that system. I'll post a picture of another person'sexhaust which for me would be the ideal setup, very clean and with cats (I tookpictures of his because I'm probably going to try and simulate somethingsimilar). Like a fool I did not takepictures of my own exhaust, but I will try and get some to post later.
I always see questions about “how much power will I get withthis mod?” If you have cooling mods,77mm pulley and long tubes you should be somewhere in the vicinity of mycar.
JHR was a really nice/clean shop and I wanted to thank Bob,Wes, and Anthony for their help with my car!
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Sorry for the typos in the first post, I typed it in word and pasted it to the forum. It looked fine until I hit insert.
If you look at the picture you'll see the two brackets that mount to the transmission. The B5 headers end where those brackets are. I guess you could use them, and might still be able to keep the flex pipe. I may try that, thanks for making me take a closer look! I was thinking about the secondary O2 sensors behind the first cat.
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I am out of Charlotte and would love some dyno time with you up here... post something up if you get a chance
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Hey, I will be back in town soon. I have about 4 more guys I need to take care of so it will be mid April possibly. Thanks much. 
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It was a nice meeting both you and Anthony that day. I bet your drive home was exhilarating!
I think I've finally got my problem figured out, just need to swap the crank position sensor to one that is actually functional...long story haha!
Next step after that is a trip to the dyno when Anthony comes back up this way
I think I've finally got my problem figured out, just need to swap the crank position sensor to one that is actually functional...long story haha!
Next step after that is a trip to the dyno when Anthony comes back up this way
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I made your numbers with shorties and a 77.
Cooling was a PLM HE, 010 IC pump.
480/530 is what I made.
I am now running Mid lengths with the 77 and same cooling plus a VRP secondary HE, and split cooling with the BMW reservoir.
530/550 is what I make now.
480 seems quite low to be honest. I know multiple people with smaller headers than you making that same power range.
Cooling was a PLM HE, 010 IC pump.
480/530 is what I made.
I am now running Mid lengths with the 77 and same cooling plus a VRP secondary HE, and split cooling with the BMW reservoir.
530/550 is what I make now.
480 seems quite low to be honest. I know multiple people with smaller headers than you making that same power range.
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I made your numbers with shorties and a 77.
Cooling was a PLM HE, 010 IC pump.
480/530 is what I made.
I am now running Mid lengths with the 77 and same cooling plus a VRP secondary HE, and split cooling with the BMW reservoir.
530/550 is what I make now.
480 seems quite low to be honest. I know multiple people with smaller headers than you making that same power range.
Cooling was a PLM HE, 010 IC pump.
480/530 is what I made.
I am now running Mid lengths with the 77 and same cooling plus a VRP secondary HE, and split cooling with the BMW reservoir.
530/550 is what I make now.
480 seems quite low to be honest. I know multiple people with smaller headers than you making that same power range.
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Yes cooling
yes I was heat soaking pretty bad with the shorties and cooling I had.
Splitting the cooling and adding a secondary HE did wonders but. The bmw res isn't the best way to do it but it definitely helped paired with the additional HE.
My temps previously were 25-30 over ambient.
Now they are 12-14 over ambient.
I also have a custom dyno tune which Is commended on our car due to the open loop fuel system.
Splitting the cooling and adding a secondary HE did wonders but. The bmw res isn't the best way to do it but it definitely helped paired with the additional HE.
My temps previously were 25-30 over ambient.
Now they are 12-14 over ambient.
I also have a custom dyno tune which Is commended on our car due to the open loop fuel system.
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Open Loop runs off the O2's giving feed back for fueling needs in light load / cruising.
Closed loop is termed due to it being a hard map where O2 feedback would not scale quick enough and would chance running the motor lean; so a hard value is entered usually via RPM/Load on XY axis and the value equalling millisecond of injector opening time combined with an injector constant for what size injector you are running (this is in a different line in the binary on other ECU binaries I have messed with)
Are you referring to the fact that our cars run on a returnless fuel system when you say "open loop"?
Also what were the ambiant temps when your dyno runs were logged showing your gains?
I am assuming you were on a box tune, then got the dyno tune to reflect those gains?
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Just the opposite. Open loop is what the tuner mods, it is all map tuning. Usually full throttle or a combination of triggers.
Closed loop is off the O2's and scalars in the system. You will be at or around 14 to 1 afr.
Just the opposite. Open loop is what the tuner mods, it is all map tuning. Usually full throttle or a combination of triggers.
Closed loop is off the O2's and scalars in the system. You will be at or around 14 to 1 afr.
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Haha
its all good! You get the point lol.
I had had a dyno tune both times.
The gains were definitely a combo of the bigger headers and cooling. I gained back some I should have had it i wasn't heat soaking as bad.
End of of the day, 480 seems quite low for 77/ LTH.
I had had a dyno tune both times.
The gains were definitely a combo of the bigger headers and cooling. I gained back some I should have had it i wasn't heat soaking as bad.
End of of the day, 480 seems quite low for 77/ LTH.
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Love the torque and area under the curve on these cars (even stock). Makes them a blast to drive on public roads and at not go-immediately-to-jail speeds. Have a car with a 6.2L naturally aspirated Chevy small block (415 hp and 415 lb-ft) and to really enjoy the car, you have to wind it out a bit.
