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Old May 10, 2017 | 01:44 PM
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TCU REV LIMIT

Is it the TCU that controlls engine rpm.? DTK sells them and says that limit is raised to 6,700 but not sure if it is a ECU/TCU combination that does it or TCU alone. I cant get a straight answer from him.
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Old May 10, 2017 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SICAMG
Is it the TCU that controlls engine rpm.? DTK sells them and says that limit is raised to 6,700 but not sure if it is a ECU/TCU combination that does it or TCU alone. I cant get a straight answer from him.
If you can't get a straight answer from a person making and selling there product what does that indicate then?

Yes the tcu controls the shifting points (rpm of the gears) 6,700 is a limit not the greatest but ok .The major limiting factors when revving past stock rpm points is stock cams and the crappy stock blower which falls off the more boost and revs you throw at it
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Old May 10, 2017 | 02:58 PM
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the increased rev limit will get you minimal gains and over strain blower and internal components. M113 is not really a hard revving motor like the M159 6.2L motors (those motors thrive on revs) E55 is a big torque motor that really doesn't like being bounced off the rev limiter. My 2 cents.
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Old May 10, 2017 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Redwood415
the increased rev limit will get you minimal gains and over strain blower and internal components. M113 is not really a hard revving motor like the M159 6.2L motors (those motors thrive on revs) E55 is a big torque motor that really doesn't like being bounced off the rev limiter. My 2 cents.
After 5,400 rpms that stock blower is done like a burnt toast.First thing i hated about this car was the charger unit it's made for fast tq that's it.
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Old May 10, 2017 | 03:09 PM
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I have seen videos of DTK showing off his TCU unit and revving the car in park all the way past 6k rpm.
Damaging and useless and senseless to rev the engine without any load on it.
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Old May 10, 2017 | 03:55 PM
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Why anyone would put his parts on this car is mind boggling
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Old May 10, 2017 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Why anyone would put his parts on this car is mind boggling
Hulk to be really honest his tcu was luck it either will be great or crappy .Taking that chance is not good in my opinion
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Old May 10, 2017 | 04:04 PM
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Ya that's not good odds
Anyone that uses his parts or tunes shouldn't complain when they lose a transmission or motor
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Old May 10, 2017 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Ya that's not good odds
Anyone that uses his parts or tunes shouldn't complain when they lose a transmission or motor
Kinda hard to looose a tranny due to the tune being weistec ,but the engine I agree 300%.Drove a dtk v2 tcu actually was veungood and then drove a other one and let me tell you it was horrible!
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All good points !! Just asking that's all so good to know.
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Old May 10, 2017 | 05:51 PM
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Too much line pressure on tcu is not good for longevity of the transmission and how high that pos tune revs is crazy
Yes it a stolen tcu tune and most probably stolen ecu tune
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Old May 10, 2017 | 07:55 PM
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Well really its to bad. 300.00 for a tcu tuned outright ?? You cant go wrong .......if it was any good.
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Old May 10, 2017 | 09:33 PM
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I have a "weistec v1" tune I bought off New Zealand's version of ebay. God knows what it really is. I find it pretty much the same as my stock TCU and do not notice any change in shift points. I actually record higher top rev's in torque app on stock but maybe that's because it shifts sooner. The poll rate on the torque app is rubbish too so maybe that has an influence. Manual mode rev limiter is the same in both. I am very interested in what part the ECU plays as my first gear to second shift is so goddamn slow half the time. Especially noticeable at WOT after a kick down feels like the engine throttles itself prior to shifting, letting all the enemy cars past.
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Old May 11, 2017 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Too much line pressure on tcu is not good for longevity of the transmission and how high that pos tune revs is crazy
Yes it a stolen tcu tune and most probably stolen ecu tune
Like I said hulk , the v2 with the 6700 rpm limit was good the v1 was a total pos !Now again, his tcu are hit and miss it's either great or crap..If your lucky to get a good v2 you scored if not, then it will be trouble and headaches .
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Old May 11, 2017 | 07:53 AM
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Just because it revs higher doesn't mean it's faster.
Anyone have time slip diff?
Nope
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Old May 11, 2017 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Just because it revs higher doesn't mean it's faster.
Anyone have time slip diff?
Nope
200 rpm is good at times helps keep the car higher then the power band more .as far as the slip your not going to see one just like ported heads so called makes 45 whp
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Old May 11, 2017 | 11:38 AM
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Lots of cars ran 10s with no tcu tunes or just removing tq limiters

Ported heads do help but you need cams with them
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Old May 11, 2017 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Lots of cars ran 10s with no tcu tunes or just removing tq limiters

Ported heads do help but you need cams with them
Many think there going to gain 65 whp with heads and cams ,no way!!!its not a ls1 setup ,Amg heads flow very good from the factory and little room for improvements to be had .I like a 03 tcu .
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Old May 11, 2017 | 11:47 AM
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03 is good but paddles only work in Manual
I had one got rid of it for an 04
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03 is good but paddles only work in Manual
I had one got rid of it for an 04
I just checked mine it's a 04 ...was out a late 03 model..But yes my buddy used a 03 and the paddles work only on that mode.
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went to stock shift points with my gears, works way better
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