MB AMG

Cool!
I seriously doubt that it could do 0-60 in 3.95 sec.

mjc123

More like 3.8

520 hp/584 tq

A stock 996TT will run 4 flat or better. You can visit 6speedonline.com and read all about it. There are a couple of guys there who's cars will do sub 3's 0-60.

schvetkaaks

this is ridiculous - there's no way you are doing 3.8's in a 5000lb car, even with 600hp. The real numbers posted (photos or scans of actual printouts) on TT's upgraded to 600hp are barely doing 3.8, and these cars are about 3000 lbs with the weight reduction they put them through.

It's funny how everybody is a 'tough guy' on the web, when you can hide behind claims with anonymity - show us some printouts, then we'll believe you, but until then, my E500 stock is doing 3.5's all day long...

awiner

How about this:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=65531

vraa

Our test show that my LS400 runs a 3.2 second 0-60 and has the possibility of going at least 300mph.

Kain, shut the hell up and quit all this speculating bull crap, you're one fine line away from being banned for just being a dumbass.

W210

Yes, a LS430 will have no problem dusting the new M5 at 200 km/h+ high speed. The LS430 has far better coefficient of drag which explains the decisive win. However, if the M5 changes its rear tire from 295 to 265 to reduce the drag, it may have a chance.

According one BMW technician, they're working very hard to fix the high speed drag/instability problem. The rear bumper aero diffuser only helps up to 250km/h. BMW is trying to increase horsepower (sacrificing torque) to overcome the problem. Unfortunately, things are not working out which is why BMW is only quoting the concept M5 up to 200km/h and they're delaying the launch of the car.

vraa

You know what scares me, all of that made sense and is absolutley true!

schvetkaaks

That's an S600, not this guy's modded E55, and his statement was 'mine with a couple mods does that all day long!' referring to 3.95's. Total bull**** - all day long?? That S600 was under the most optimum conditions, and it was one record of the run. Bring on the timeslips every day for 2 weeks, then you are doing 3.95's 'all day long'.

Such pomposity here, it's just sad. You are not doing 3.95's all day long - not even close. Check the latest Automobile magazine test of track cars - the only car to get that time was a Noble, which is half the weight of your car - the rest, including a Viper GTS, Porsche GT3, Ferrari Challenge Stradale, were all significantly over 4 seconds. Dream on, bud.

All day long...

AMGe55

I don't care if the new M5 does 0-60 in 2 seconds and pulls 1.5G on the skidpad. It's still ugly and I can't see myself driving an ugly car. I hope BMW makes their cars beautiful again for all our sakes. I don't know how much longer I can listen to BMW owners trying to justify their ugly cars.

schvetkaaks

Excellent point.

mjc123

From Car and Driver:

"Porsche's 0-to-62-mph and 0-to-100-mph estimates for the 911 Turbo were 4.2 and 9.2, respectively, but our own test data (C/D, September 2000) pegged 0 to 60 at 3.9 seconds, and we'd expect the GT2 to do even better. "

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

mjc123

A-men.

mjc123

READ THE POST I WAS REFERRING TO MY 996TT

schvetkaaks

Now THAT I believe...sweet ride.

AMG FANATIC

Amen! Well said, point taken.

AMG FANATIC

Same here.

TMC M5

I doubt the 0-60 in 3.95 second claim. Look at a car with a very similar powerplant....the Lamborghini Gallardo. Both the E60 M5 and the Gallardo have 493hp (SAE) and roughly the same torque 370 ft-lbs vs 376ft-lbs. The Gallardo has a 3.82 final drive ratio...I believe the M5 will be geared around 3.15. The Gallardo weighs roughly 3,200lbs and is all wheel drive, with 295 tires sitting out back. A Gallardo even with all the traction and weight advantages will be hard pressed to perfom a sub-4 second 0-60. The M5 will weigh at least 600lbs more and rides on 285's in the rear. There is no way that it will run under 4 seconds to 60mph...unless BMW unleashes a 550hp engine that it rates at 500. Otherwise I would guesstimate a 4.3 second 0-60 time.

Tom

Belmondo

I think BMW will do what they do of late--------announce time 0-60mph within 0.1-0.2sec of e55 even though M5 will never be able to touch E55 in real world.
BMW had the ***** to put out 5.9sec. for 745 and htere is yet 745 on this planet to do that in production car.
Yeah, 745 as fast as W211 E500----just not gonna happen, not gonna happen. But nowadays all you have to do, it seems, is just put out the numbers however loony they are and than just let everyone on all hte car forums argue that forever.


In hte past MB always stressed lux over performance and BMW had it easy-- now with all the new MB's BMW is left to shamlessly put out numbers within 0.1sec of MB and make people believe that they are faster and somehow it gets universally excepted.

Jon200

BOOO, damn ugly car to my standard

Great engine (yeh yeh V10, bla bla bla), computer controlled chasis but the outside really puts me off.

No modding as well unless ur a whacko and supercharge it, which I think someone will do in the future

MB AMG

LOL. I meant the M5.
Hey mjc123, is the X50 package worth it the money?

mjc123

It's a +/- $17k option. Absolutely not worth it on a new car, but you usually only pay a $2-3K premium for it on a used one, so in that case it's justifiable. It buys you a bit larger turbos and a beefed up transmission, and a couple other little things.

Kain

You people really amuse me. Do you HONESTLY think BMW would let the E55 beat the new M5 in a drag race?? You you HONESTLY think BMW would release something that is slower than Benz's competition?? The M5 has always been king over Benz's competitor and you think BMW wants to lose that?? It's funny how people here think numbers are everything.

corgiman

Yes I HONESTLY think that BMW would get committed to an engine program that might turn out a car slower than the E55. There are a large number of variables at play here. We'll all know what the results are soon when the car mags do instrumented tests.

And Kain - crow is a bitter bird..................................

GDawgC220

you seem to think the M5's numbers are everything...look at what you posted

IdriveFast

funny how you say that when you bases everything you know and say on numbers that you read in magaines
arent you the one saying that the new M5 will be faster than the new E55 based on the estimated 0-60 (which has not even been tested) alone?
Arent you the way saying that the M5 will be faster than the E55 because it has more HP? 500vs469?

i really really love how you think its funny that we think numbers are everything, you hypocrite...

its too bad your numbers just dont add up.

How do I describe Kain...

1) Does not own a car

2) does not have a drivers license

3) drove his dad's e-class, now he thinks he knows everything about MB's and AMG's despite never having driven one (amg)

how old are you again? 16 or something?
unlike other people here, i really do like it when you post on this board. i love reading all your bull s h i t, just tells me how ignorant and big of a dumb@ss you are.

I really have never met somebody as ignorant as you kain. your claim has no grounds and you have no experience. that says it all~

also, the car your planning on getting doesnt even compare with the cars you've been criticizing.

YOU'RE GETTING A 325CI!!! now im not saying that a 325CI isnt a nice car, because it is, but it's no where near the performance of ANY AMG.
maybe one day if you ever get a REAL performance car, like an M or AMG or S or porsche or corvette or wutever, THEN you can talk to us on the same level.

do you realize how stupid you sound? its like a stock civic calling an M3 slow.




P.S.

hey kain, go read my kill stories

also, numbers ARE everything, people just fail to look at ALL OF the numbers, instead they only focus on hp. people like you.