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Old 02-20-2018, 06:09 PM
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Doesn't the W209 CLK55 still run the M113, which is essentially the same engine in the W211 E55 minus the supercharger?

If you're getting 8 mpg either something is wrong with your car or you're driving it like you stole it.
from what I’m reading other people are driving it like they stole it but still get 14-17 so idk. I let it rip a couple times but not sure why I get so low!
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oh I def know, but let’s be real, the air suspension will blow, more issues will happen. People say m113k is bullet proof, I call BS. The W209 has one of the best reliability!
Yes airmatic can fail, everyone here expects to deal with it at some point but it's not usually a major nor is it horrendously expensive. Yes exact same engine minus supercharger. I had power steering hose burst out of town, full transmission rebuild and many other issues with my CLK55. It's still luck of the draw. I maintain my cars well too, things wear out, things break.
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Am I missing something here...??? Ok, one of the "old farts" above did post some KBB info.
www.kbb.com
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www.nada.com
www.autoblog.com

If that isn't helpful enough, try Autotrader.com, Cars.com, Cargurus.com or any other "car selling" website and compare prices. You gotta put just a tad bit of effort into this to get a "reasonable" selling price. If really "just wanna know a price", I'm tempted to ask my BIL (Used car mgr), but dollars to donuts, you will NOT like the realistic sales price he would give. GLWS...
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Yes airmatic can fail, everyone here expects to deal with it at some point but it's not usually a major nor is it horrendously expensive. Yes exact same engine minus supercharger. I had power steering hose burst out of town, full transmission rebuild and many other issues with my CLK55. It's still luck of the draw. I maintain my cars well too, things wear out, things break.
I’ve read every build thread on clk’s and Noticed you post on a majority of them. Like m113k swaps
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Yep I was about to do a M113K swap into the CLK55 but in the end decided to get an E55 instead. I am quite mechanically capable but decided it wasn't worth the time and effort compared to having a perfectly working stock supercharged car. I had a full parts list, prices and sources for the project. I was also entertaining the idea of a centrifugal supercharger build.
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Yep I was about to do a M113K swap into the CLK55 but in the end decided to get an E55 instead. I am quite mechanically capable but decided it wasn't worth the time and effort compared to having a perfectly working stock supercharged car. I had a full parts list, prices and sources for the project. I was also entertaining the idea of a centrifugal supercharger build.
if you have that list can you foward me it. The return from doing a swap on a clk is crazy. Light car and big engine! I have seen you on every thread lol, so I think you have the most experience and knowledge.
Old 02-21-2018, 12:07 AM
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if you have that list can you foward me it. The return from doing a swap on a clk is crazy. Light car and big engine! I have seen you on every thread lol, so I think you have the most experience and knowledge.
That's going to be an expensive undertaking. If low MPG has put a dent in your wallet I imagine it could be difficult to finance.
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lol this kid. my car is newer, far better optioned and in much better shape. i paid 16k with 108K miles for mine back in july. my guess is that you can't afford to own it, you've made an *** out of yourself all over this section of the board and now you desperately need to unload it. you impulse purchased the car and then read about them and now potential maintenance and or repairs have scared you. comparing a CLK55 to an E55 is a joke, give me a break. mpg? CLK Black body kit? GTFO with that noise. yep I'm old, and more or less would enjoy just not seeing your stupid threads in this sub forum.
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yep I'm old, and more or less would enjoy just not seeing your stupid threads in this sub forum.
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Good luck with the sale, maybe if you throw in a few sweatshirts and sweatpants you’ll get asking price. Also, good luck to the guys in the W209 forum, get ready for the useless posts and flame tune group buy requests.
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Originally Posted by w204_racing

if you have that list can you foward me it. The return from doing a swap on a clk is crazy. Light car and big engine! I have seen you on every thread lol, so I think you have the most experience and knowledge.
Ok I will indulge. I unfortunately deleted my research after I sold the car. I will do a rough recreation as best I can. If you are concerned with airmatic and fuel economy this swap is not for you. Expect to spend at least the value of the CLK on parts if not more, much more. You can do it properly or cheaply. Your first mod is to get another car or keep your C300 if you still have it.

So obviously you need an engine (long block with everything), E55 or CLS55 is a good choice. S55 or SL55 should work too. A wise person would leak test it, if it passes the boroscope, if it passes then replace all gaskets including rear main seal. If high mileage then rings and inspect bearings too. No point swapping a rubbish engine into a car. The CLK55 transmission will work but it is not exactly the same as the M113K transmissions. Which ever one you use, the TCU and the final drive ratio must match.

You need a better fuel pump, you need to make sure you have 80psi which you can get using a VW external fuel filter with fuel pressure regulator, search for the exact part, it is on here somewhere. You will need the ECU from the same engine year ideally, you will need the ECU loom ideally. You can use the CLK55 loom but you have to run new wires for the clutch and maybe bypass valve (can't remember how this one works). You would be wise to make sure an M18 wideband bung makes it in there somewhere for both exhaust manifolds. You will need an intercooler heat exchanger, reservoir and pump + hose and relay/wiring. Monitoring AFR's and fuel pressure is also a very good idea at least in the beginning. Exhaust manifolds shouldn't match up so you can possibly use the CLK55 ones since the block is the same basic design and they obviously match the car or custom fabricate some long tubes. If the car is tired then pay attention to the diff, they used the 210 style in the earlier years and you may find it blows up pretty quickly. You will need STAR DAS to mate the ECU with the car.

Here is one of my negative quotes from another recent thread, from both personal experience and observation of other's projects. One day I will do a custom sleeper build but money, time and other commitments have to be well lined up to make these things happen. Basically if you want power then stick with the E55, you won't save any time, money or sanity.
I love the idea of these sorts of swaps but I am also very negative about them at the same time. Will it be awesome, yes! Great sleeper. Will it be cheaper than buying a perfectly working E55 in the end after it is actually completed, no way! Will the chassis be set up to handle the power and stopping, definitely no. Can you fix the brakes and suspension to cope, yes after a lot more $$. Will you ever finish it if you do start it.... completely fabricated statistics in my head say very unlikely. All it takes is one electrical gremlin and you can spend hundreds of hours trying to get everything to mate up and work correctly. The mechanical part is the easy bit assuming your second hand parts don't have major issues already, they usually do. I wouldn't do a swap without stripping down and likely rebuilding said engine and transmission first.
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Just to add, once I added up all the costs, it was much more than the difference from selling my 2003 156,000km CLK55 and buying my 2005 38,000km E55. It will be cheaper in the US though as there are few engines here and I would likely have to import one or wait a long time and overpay.
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You'd probably get more than 8 mpg if you didn't lay into the throttle every 30 seconds, but that is what 17 year olds do.
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Just to add, once I added up all the costs, it was much more than the difference from selling my 2003 156,000km CLK55 and buying my 2005 38,000km E55. It will be cheaper in the US though as there are few engines here and I would likely have to import one or wait a long time and overpay.
Yea I’m not going to do the swap, just wanted to know the information you had. Do you like the body kits overdrive installed and etc
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A simple how much is my car worth thread turned into one of the most aggressive thread on mbworld. It wasn’t an impulse buy, I’m just seeing what I could get out of it.
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Well, I'm still waiting to hear your response to my original question regarding the radiator/trans cooler issue that plagued the 03 models. Also, all your childish comments and responses will not help you if you are trying to sell your car to anyone on this page. The "Old Farts" on here are your target market, for a potential sale. Think about that for a moment.
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Indeed. ^^

OP, market for E55s is extremely small, and most buyers at this point will be enthusiasts.

With this thread and your responses in general you have permanently blackballed yourself and your car. Most potential buyers will try to do some research on the car they are buying and chances are high that they would poke their head in this forum. Do you think you painted yourself and your car in good image? Do you think anyone in this threas would advise a potential buyer to move forward with your car? Insulting the majority of posters as "old farts" sealed your fate.

You are clearly extremely immature and insecure, even for your age. Instead of taking the feedback from everyone here and saying "yeah, I ****ed up guys. I didn't think that car would be so expensive to maintain and I can't afford it. I am dumping the car to get something cheaper and save money" you went full retard. If you did the former, you would have earned some respect from people here and had a pool of potential buyers and supporters inside the e55 communityc
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I tried to tell him, this is a very small scene... it's literally just this forum and a facebook group- that's it. People basically know all the frequent cars in the market.
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Indeed. ^^

OP, market for E55s is extremely small, and most buyers at this point will be enthusiasts.

With this thread and your responses in general you have permanently blackballed yourself and your car. Most potential buyers will try to do some research on the car they are buying and chances are high that they would poke their head in this forum. Do you think you painted yourself and your car in good image? Do you think anyone in this threas would advise a potential buyer to move forward with your car? Insulting the majority of posters as "old farts" sealed your fate.

You are clearly extremely immature and insecure, even for your age. Instead of taking the feedback from everyone here and saying "yeah, I ****ed up guys. I didn't think that car would be so expensive to maintain and I can't afford it. I am dumping the car to get something cheaper and save money" you went full retard. If you did the former, you would have earned some respect from people here and had a pool of potential buyers and supporters inside the e55 communityc
the old farts comment was a joke, did not expect it to become so serious. Lol you all make jokes, but your thin *** skin can’t take one.

Why can’t you understand it’s really not about the money, it was an impulse buy. I love the car, I just want a project car.

i apologize to all those who I offended, didn’t expect a remark of mine to be taken so seriously when you guys are flaming non stop lmao.
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The vibe I'm getting here is that you want a project car, but you can't actually afford a project car... so you're trying to make money off of the E55 to buy a much cheaper CLK55, and then use the excess money you hope to have made in order to modify it.
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The vibe I'm getting here is that you want a project car, but you can't actually afford a project car... so you're trying to make money off of the E55 to buy a much cheaper CLK55, and then use the excess money you hope to have made in order to modify it.
Yes sir, as stupid as it sounds. I just want something that I enjoy with money to mod it. I bought the e55 thinking it’s all good I’ll have fun with it. But speed isn’t really the most appealing thing to me (kinda is). I like to mod my cars, I just need the money to do so.

again, I apologize to those who I offended. You “old farts” are knowledgeable of course I just got out of hand and you guys did too. So let’s keep it clean?
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Yea I’m not going to do the swap, just wanted to know the information you had. Do you like the body kits overdrive installed and etc
Looks better than most but not really my thing. I prefer the sleeper unassuming look. I remember having a bodykit for my Celica alltrac when I was 19 and actually thinking people would think I was cool. Luckily I never installed it. Makes me cringe now.


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