e55 baller

I finally raced my E55 and S4 this AM and the S4 beat the E55 by 2 cars from 60-120mph but lost by 2 cars from 5mph-90mph primarly due to shifting in the S4. I was dumb founded as to why the E55 lost from a highway roll given that the S4's AWD should cause it to suffer at higher speeds. I was driving the E55 and a friend was in the S4. I am going to take the S4 to the track to see what kinda times its posting. I don't have footage of the runs since we didn't have a passenger in either car.

E55 mods:
snorkle mod
Speedtuning USA chip
BFGs
K&Ns

Audi S4 mods:
DUH FMIC
ABT/AMS Chip
S-Flo intake
Kevlar clutch/Lflywheel
DP/Exhaust
114 octane
200lbs lighter than stock

SLK55_AMG

I had an M3 SMG stock and i was eating S4's as snacks... i raced an E55 and it blew my doors off + even my sunroof hehe , so i dont know about your S4...

my philosophy ,, 60% driver's skill , 40% car power (in auto)

80% 20% (manual) due to the timing , accuracy of gear changing and controlling cars' ability to perform ...

SLK55_AMG

[QUOTE=e55 baller]I finally raced my E55 and S4 this AM and the S4 beat the E55 by 2 cars from 60-120mph but lost by 2 cars from 5mph-90mph primarly due to shifting in the S4. I was dumb founded as to why the E55 lost from a highway roll given that the S4's AWD should cause it to suffer at higher speeds. I was driving the E55 and a friend was in the S4. I am going to take the S4 to the track to see what kinda times its posting. I don't have footage of the runs since we didn't have a passenger in either car.

just to add up , the M3 even beated up the new v8 4.2 s4 ....

check top gear videos... so how in hell it will beat E55?

mmm this concludes that you dont even know how to drive (even auto) hehe

come i'll teach you some lessons boy

Finnish C32

Do you have original turbos in that S4? Even the RS4 with chip and full-exhaust cant beat W211 E55 in any way.

Ville

e55 baller

I've run 12.2@114 in the E55 stock so I know how to drive. I also ran 10.7@136 in my Supra so I know how to drive fast and launch a tricky car.

Note that this is not a regular S4!!!! This car does NOT have 250hp.

My friend was driving the S4 not me and for those of you disbelivers check out the vid of me racing my buddies 9-11 sec 1/4 (depending on boost) C5 twin turbo. After that race I took a 6 speed E46 M3 by 5-8 cars. He was to far back to count. Then beat a X50 911 TT to 80 mph.

If any E55s or M3s in the area want to race me for $$ on video besides me racing myself please let me know.

Also check out this list of 1/4 mile times for the S4. With a crappy E55 driver who can't run what the mags state (12.4 ET) they can get walked by certain variations (stock turbo or upgraded) of tweaked S4s.

http://www.s4biturbo.com/timeslips.cgi

stephens

Maybe there is something wrong with the Speedtuning chip? I have seen this before with a local car that had the wrong software parameters loaded on a pulley kit upgrade and it was much slower than stock.

amg55

1) your title suggests you're simply trying to get a hostile reaction (implying you raced a stock '01S4 vs E55 when it wasn't)
2) the E55's passing power at highway speed (based on tests done by car mags) is one of its strongest assets, so I have trouble buying your report
3) the cars you raced are nowhere near stock, so it's hard to know what you had. As Stephens stated, you may even have a faulty chip.
4) put 2 pro drivers in those cars and I'll still bet you the E55 wins.

e55 baller

Not sure I follow #1. It should be clear that my S4 isn't stock with all the mods listed on the first e-mail. Its running 20psi up from a stock setting of ~8psi on race fuel. As far as #2 I think I saw somewhere in one of the mags that the current M5 had basically the same elasticity or "slingshot" factor as the E55. I think thats total BS but having had other cars to compare the E55 to I think it does better down low with all that torque from 0-60 whereas for instance a Supra is a highway machine from 60-150. I don't mean that in disrespect to the E55 audience since I own one but when I race other cars starting from 0 or 20mph I always do better than from a highway roll compared to the same cars I run from 0-20mph.

Dunno about a faulty chip, could very well be the case as my dyno seemed a bit low at 402 rwhp and 439rwtq. I won't rule that out though by any means. At any point I will be receiving Stephen's kit next week so the car will be a real beast.

I don't mean to invoke negative feelings from anyone on the boards as I am merely posting results of my experiences with road racing as unbiased as I can make it. I am not going to lie to benefit any car. In fact I added a video link of me getting crushed by 5 cars to a Lingenfelter C5 twin turbo last week in my S4.

It should be apparent to all that despite us owning cars with 2-3x the HP of the average car that at any time the crap civic next to you at a light may be spraying with a turbo and beat you in a street race with 10k in mods to his car that is worth 8K total. Its not fun when it happens but only 1 in ~1000-10,000 cars on the road will be able to do this to the mighty S/C 5.5L engine.

So far the only cars that I have been beat squarely in my E55 was a blown billet Mustang (looked totally stock) and a crappy looking convertible mustang that sprayed a 100 shot on me. I got beat by about 4-5 cars in each of those races.

SLK55_AMG

a real race is stock vs stock!

Sunny55

I haven't seen any modded s4's take a stock w211 e55 from a rolling start on the highway either in the U.S. or in Taiwan, except if you have upgraded your turbos to a k04 conversion or t3/t4 conversion with fmic or rs4 intercoolers.

My friend Zev who owns avalonmotorsports.com has a 02 s4 around 500+ hp at the crank only runs 12.2 and consistantly around 12.3-12.4. I believe that those kind of cars may be able to take a stock w211 e55, but I am not trying to flame or say that i don't believe you, but it is hard for me to to really swallow. I have witnessed time after time after time (whenever i am in taipei, taiwan, presently that is where i reside) on the highway of the MTM 520 hp audi rs4 (owned by my borhter) get taken by a stock w211 e55 amg estate (my other older brother) from 100km all the way to 285-290km. never have i seen the mtm rs4 take the e55, except a few times off the line, depending on the launch of both cars.

The e55 amg estate is a tick or two slower than the sedan, so i can't see how your modded s4 took the e55 by 2 car lengths from 60-120mph? I Am not trying to instigate anything, jus very curious. Did your friend drive it in manual mode? You think it would have made a difference if you were behind the wheel?

e55 baller

I retested my two cars on an empty highway early today and from 10-120 the E55 put 5 cars on the S4. From 60-120 the E55 had 2-3 cars on the S4. I think the reason for the odd results yesterday is because the E55 was in 3rd gear M mode but at 3.5 k rpms when in fact it should have been in 2nd gear at like 5k rpms.

Retesting from 60mph the E55 put 2-3 cars on the S4. makes much more sense.

Sunny55

Yea....that's what i thought. Your friend probably didn't downshiift to the optimum gear setting in manual mode from 3rd to 2nd. And i suspect that is what you did today against the s4. Well done.

e55 baller

exactly, if your gonna race you gotta be in M mode at 4-5k rpms...any thing else is incorrect especially S and C modes...

eclou

That's a really strong S4. Impressive that it can stay even close to the E55 on a straight pull. I have seen some massaged S4's run strong but inevitably they have driveline failures. My 944 turbo (330 rwhp, 340 ftlbs) can run on par with my E55, but with 18# boost and 20% toluene. Even then, I expect to replace the head gasket every 500 hours or so.

wheelauto

Very kool, The S4 has much better gearing for 50mph + racing in my opinion coming from a S4 owner. But I would never race a E55 from a 0-60 start. Most cars with alot of power will be closer in the higher gears. Im sure the S4 you raced had the 100 oct setting on which makes the car run like a raped ape. Dont feel bad your car is stock and his is fully modified. All you need is to call Brabus or Renntechfor a chip!!

e55 baller

yeah actually I found out the S4 was on 114 unleaded octane. They are both my cars, I will have to post some video of them sometime soon.

e55 baller

This setup with K04 turbo's and GAIC Moss programming is generating some serious power on the S4s...enough for solid 11 runs since the car weighs 3500lbs.


http://www.audiworld.com/forum/s4.html`

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435whp & 441tq on dyno jet. pics and info inside
User account number (aid): 71856
Posted by avantS4 on 2004-07-10 22:56:11
did 3 pulls at the dyno day today (on race gas). will post the plot later when I can get to a scanner but here is info for now.

run1: 435.45whp/439.94tq
run2: 430.18whp/439.49tq
run3: 427.33whp/441.18tq

engine mods:
-k04s
-AWE fueling kit
-UUC VM1
-AutoSpeed DPs with cats
-DUH FMIC
-EVO intake
-Moss special sauce



Caltech S4: ~475whp/~565chp at the Harman Motive Dyno Shoot-Out in Torrance, CA...
User account number (aid): 41217
Posted by S4MadMan: PAB/PEB on 2004-07-10 21:23:49

...here's some preliminary data from the Dyno Shoot-Out:

All Stage: 3, Jeff Moss@TorqueFactory/AWE/GIAC Tuned:

Stock: S4: ~210whp, 250chp

Race Fuel:
Caltech S4: ~475whp, ~565chp
LVS4: ~435whp, ~518chp
ScottH: ~425whp, ~506chp

91 cr@ptane:
BrentM: ~340whp, ~405chp: stock DPs, with all cats and stocks ICs