For those that have reloacted the IAT sensor
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For those that have reloacted the IAT sensor
Would like to see some pics if you have available or get a simple idea on how to mount the stock IAT sensor into the intake plenum. Not sure if just drilling a hole and using loctite gasket 5699 and some pratley steel putty is the way to go, do not won't that thing blown out or boost leak or whatever, so obviously would like this done right. But I am battling to figure out a good way to mount it. Ps excuse the spelling error on title, should have proof read before posting and can't edit it.
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I did this a while back. Mounted it up front near the K@N air filter and never saw any change in performance for what ever reason if that's what your after. i now have the IAT compensation turned off in the tune for the IAT so timing stays real consistent every time.
What are you trying to find out ??
What are you trying to find out ??
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I did this a while back. Mounted it up front near the K@N air filter and never saw any change in performance for what ever reason if that's what your after. i now have the IAT compensation turned off in the tune for the IAT so timing stays real consistent every time.
What are you trying to find out ??
What are you trying to find out ??
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I did this a while back. Mounted it up front near the K@N air filter and never saw any change in performance for what ever reason if that's what your after. i now have the IAT compensation turned off in the tune for the IAT so timing stays real consistent every time.
What are you trying to find out ??
What are you trying to find out ??
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Am I serious ???? Not sure about the meaning in that but here is what is done and why.
I run a very good cooling system and on every run ...1/2 mile event, temps never go above 115*. That's at 17lb's at sea level and 15.3'lbs at race track elevation.No meth as well.
That temperature is always closely monitored and if the temps stay there their are no issues. Everyone gets crazy with IAT but temps at 140-150 and below are really nothing to worry about. It is supercharged so it is to be expected. But....more power will come from lower temps and with lower temps comes more timing from the ECU. During logging I found that the timing was all over the place for what ever reason and aside from that even though the tune is commanding 25 degrees I never will see that.
And again moving the IAT sensor did nothing for me and didn't bother to investigate that any further.
I run a very good cooling system and on every run ...1/2 mile event, temps never go above 115*. That's at 17lb's at sea level and 15.3'lbs at race track elevation.No meth as well.
That temperature is always closely monitored and if the temps stay there their are no issues. Everyone gets crazy with IAT but temps at 140-150 and below are really nothing to worry about. It is supercharged so it is to be expected. But....more power will come from lower temps and with lower temps comes more timing from the ECU. During logging I found that the timing was all over the place for what ever reason and aside from that even though the tune is commanding 25 degrees I never will see that.
And again moving the IAT sensor did nothing for me and didn't bother to investigate that any further.
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Am I serious ???? Not sure about the meaning in that but here is what is done and why.
I run a very good cooling system and on every run ...1/2 mile event, temps never go above 115*. That's at 17lb's at sea level and 15.3'lbs at race track elevation.No meth as well.
That temperature is always closely monitored and if the temps stay there their are no issues. Everyone gets crazy with IAT but temps at 140-150 and below are really nothing to worry about. It is supercharged so it is to be expected. But....more power will come from lower temps and with lower temps comes more timing from the ECU. During logging I found that the timing was all over the place for what ever reason and aside from that even though the tune is commanding 25 degrees I never will see that.
And again moving the IAT sensor did nothing for me and didn't bother to investigate that any further.
I run a very good cooling system and on every run ...1/2 mile event, temps never go above 115*. That's at 17lb's at sea level and 15.3'lbs at race track elevation.No meth as well.
That temperature is always closely monitored and if the temps stay there their are no issues. Everyone gets crazy with IAT but temps at 140-150 and below are really nothing to worry about. It is supercharged so it is to be expected. But....more power will come from lower temps and with lower temps comes more timing from the ECU. During logging I found that the timing was all over the place for what ever reason and aside from that even though the tune is commanding 25 degrees I never will see that.
And again moving the IAT sensor did nothing for me and didn't bother to investigate that any further.
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I am really crazy with how things are layed out with my car. Every time I would go to the track I would learn something new ....and would correct it.
Again my timing was all over and now holds real steady at 21-22 degrees . I run two 3.5 gallon tanks , one feeds the other and are filled with ice before the run. three pumps, two custom air to air intercoolers, and a single pass supercharger intercooler. I have a dual IAT gauge that monitors the tank temperature and the intake, independent from the OBD. I normally will not run in high temps at the track for two reasons , one racing in high heat sucks for me and it is not fun....stageing lane helmet, fire suit...blaaaaaa !!!! Two it is easy to control temps and make more power in good air, espcially at higher elevations.
What other car do you run that you are reffering to??
Again my timing was all over and now holds real steady at 21-22 degrees . I run two 3.5 gallon tanks , one feeds the other and are filled with ice before the run. three pumps, two custom air to air intercoolers, and a single pass supercharger intercooler. I have a dual IAT gauge that monitors the tank temperature and the intake, independent from the OBD. I normally will not run in high temps at the track for two reasons , one racing in high heat sucks for me and it is not fun....stageing lane helmet, fire suit...blaaaaaa !!!! Two it is easy to control temps and make more power in good air, espcially at higher elevations.
What other car do you run that you are reffering to??
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I am really crazy with how things are layed out with my car. Every time I would go to the track I would learn something new ....and would correct it.
Again my timing was all over and now holds real steady at 21-22 degrees . I run two 3.5 gallon tanks , one feeds the other and are filled with ice before the run. three pumps, two custom air to air intercoolers, and a single pass supercharger intercooler. I have a dual IAT gauge that monitors the tank temperature and the intake, independent from the OBD. I normally will not run in high temps at the track for two reasons , one racing in high heat sucks for me and it is not fun....stageing lane helmet, fire suit...blaaaaaa !!!! Two it is easy to control temps and make more power in good air, espcially at higher elevations.
What other car do you run that you are reffering to??
Again my timing was all over and now holds real steady at 21-22 degrees . I run two 3.5 gallon tanks , one feeds the other and are filled with ice before the run. three pumps, two custom air to air intercoolers, and a single pass supercharger intercooler. I have a dual IAT gauge that monitors the tank temperature and the intake, independent from the OBD. I normally will not run in high temps at the track for two reasons , one racing in high heat sucks for me and it is not fun....stageing lane helmet, fire suit...blaaaaaa !!!! Two it is easy to control temps and make more power in good air, espcially at higher elevations.
What other car do you run that you are reffering to??
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Race IQ did it. I also run the engine pretty rich at 11.1 AFR and run 104 octane all the time and 108 when at the track to keep the pistons in there and happy.
I forgot to say that I also run a small shot of Nitrous to really bring temps down but have no idea what it ends up to be at the piston temperature wise.
I forgot to say that I also run a small shot of Nitrous to really bring temps down but have no idea what it ends up to be at the piston temperature wise.
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Thanks alot SIC. So you relocated your IAT sensor as per your first post and with a shot of nitrous you didn't see much improvement in performance? Did you see at least a drop in temperature readings relocating the sensor? Also you say your put the sensor up top by the air filters, so does that mean it's literally reading the ram it temperature before throttle body even?
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No the NOS is after the factory sensor and is injected in the elbows of the intake manifolds , two nozzles , one each side, so no way to read that but of course real healthy power improvement.
As far as the relocation of the IAT sensor before the supercharger...yes temperatures where of course a much lower reading of ambient temps, but for what ever reason my timing was not much better so not sure if it took a little time under power for the ECU to get a grasp on that or what but no power improvement. I moved on to a different approach.
As far as the relocation of the IAT sensor before the supercharger...yes temperatures where of course a much lower reading of ambient temps, but for what ever reason my timing was not much better so not sure if it took a little time under power for the ECU to get a grasp on that or what but no power improvement. I moved on to a different approach.
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OK thanks, got you. Amazing how certain things of science we think is gospal and when put into effect we sometimes see the opposite of what expected or no result at all.. Like the learning and trying different things. I am of course hoping for a much better result with the IAT sensor now seeing true readings of the cooler air after the meth has done its job and hopefully the ecu won't be shy to throw timing at it. As a matter of interest your result did not see an improvement in timing or performance, were you still running pump fuel? Wonder if ****ty fuel quality and knock had a result of low timing, I am suspecting that could be a possibility
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