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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 01:35 PM
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Installing some cooling mods

I'm working on installing a killer chiller, trunk tank and water methanol injection to keep this old girl cooled off a little better.

I'll post some pictures as I go.

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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 02:04 PM
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Pump and tank are mounted.



Rivet nuts came in very handy as always



I ended up adding a insulation panel under the tank and then carpet was wrapped around the entire mounting board. The pump is mounted with protective walls for the wiring. The spare tire is still easily accessible. I plan to modify the original trunk floor to integrate with this setup.




The tank outlet and the pump inlet need to be close to the same elevation for the pump to operate correctly




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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 02:21 PM
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Making progress on the kc install as well. The plan is to have the chiller setup underneath the factory cabin airfikter housing




I modified the firewall cabin air base to hold the killer chiller bracket



Had to make an air filter out of a 3m house filter and a folder. I'll probably try to improve the quality of materials and slot the bottom holes for easier filter changes in the future.




More rivet nuts to mount the kc bracket to the firewall



Mounted up and everything has clearence with the hood shut.




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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 04:54 PM
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Looking good, great work being done. Looking forward to your testing results.
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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 06:34 PM
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.kc no offense are garbage,.should have gone with inner chiller.
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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 07:10 PM
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Got the windshield fluid reservoir fitted with the bung for the meth pump feed line. It was very easy I just deleted the headlight sprayer system and threaded in the feed bung to the hole where the headlight sprayer pump went.




The braided lines from the meth kit were too shiney so I wrapped them in conduit to help make them more stealth. Also protected all the wires and installed deutsch connectors



Made up a mounting plate for the kc and meth controls. It will mount where the ashtray is now



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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by oneslow55
.kc no offense are garbage,.should have gone with inner chiller.
What makes the inner chiller superior?
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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 07:13 PM
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Looking good, great work being done. Looking forward to your testing results.
Thanks I will report the results for sure!
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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 07:48 PM
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What makes the inner chiller superior?


Much much cooler temps to a point your line freeze,and ac i nthe cabin is not hurt .. kc is was not that it's a very over rated product.
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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 08:09 PM
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Much much cooler temps to a point your line freeze,and ac i nthe cabin is not hurt .. kc is was not that it's a very over rated product.
Are you getting your information from a side by side test to compare numbers?

Is there a fundamental difference in the way the two systems operate?
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Inter chiller is just a much larger KC that’s why it’s able to perform better. I was one of the first to install a KC years ago and then many followed. I installed mine behind the distronic puck. Using meth for top end with the KC and tank is just as good or better as a interchiller will not work WOT.

I also don’t get why people don’t just remove the spare and put the tank under the floor.

Maybe it’s just me but I like it all blending in and hidden. KC looks stock unless your know, tank hidden, meth use the washer bottle like you.




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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 10:14 PM
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nice work!
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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 10:47 PM
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This place is a joke.
It's really too bad nobody's come up with an electric, trunk mounted chiller.
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Old Feb 5, 2021 | 07:17 AM
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Inter chiller is just a much larger KC that’s why it’s able to perform better. I was one of the first to install a KC years ago and then many followed. I installed mine behind the distronic puck. Using meth for top end with the KC and tank is just as good or better as a interchiller will not work WOT.

I also don’t get why people don’t just remove the spare and put the tank under the floor.

Maybe it’s just me but I like it all blending in and hidden. KC looks stock unless your know, tank hidden, meth use the washer bottle like you.



This engine bay setup looks very good, nice work.

One of the goals with my tank setup was to keep my spare tire and all factory capabilities, the other is to make it look factory as possible besides all the junk in the trunk.

The Killer Chiller that I'm using is the newer "race" version that is roughly the same size as the interchiller. Ill be sure to do some testing to see what the results are. It would be nice to know if any other board members have an interchiiler installed so that we can get some actual comparisons between the two units. They both seem to be very high quality and the main reason I went with the KC is because its made in the USA.




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Old Feb 5, 2021 | 07:44 AM
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This morning I'm working on the valve actuation setup for the KC/ Meth control panel.

Ill be running four valves/solenoids controlled by this panel.

1. KCDV Killer Chiller "Drag Valve" -this valve will close off the in cabin refrigerant supply and direct 100 percent to the KC

2. KCOFF Valve -this valve will close the KC off to give 100 percent refringent to the cabin air conditioning

3. HEV Heat Exchanger Valve -this is a 3 way valve that will allow me to choose weather or not the intercooler heat exchanger will be included in the intercooler setup

4. MS Meth Solenoid -this is just a safety device to ensure that meth/water does not inadvertently enter the motor


The configuration that I will wire these to the panel:

OFF - KCDV Open, KCOFF Closed, HEV Open, MS not armed

Button 1 - KCDV Open, KCOFF Open, HEV Open, MS Armed

Button 2 - KCDV Closed, KCOFF Open, HEV Closed, MS Armed




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Old Feb 5, 2021 | 04:41 PM
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Installed a light in the tank and filled it up with water for testing. I'll leave it full to the brim for an hour or so just to make sure.

Get in contact with Bo at boatpluglights.com of you need one of these. Made in USA.














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The kc suction hose is hooked up and routed through the passenger fender. Having ac oil and some concrete nippers helped make the connections easy.






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Old Feb 7, 2021 | 02:06 PM
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This project is starting to come together pretty well now.

The return line hole is drilled and grommet installed. The meth pump is mounted up and lines are ran. The cabin air filter cover is fitted and installed.

Next up is tapping the supercharger and intercooler for the meth nozzles.









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Old Feb 16, 2021 | 03:49 PM
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Got the supercharger cleaned up and ready to split the intercooler from it to install the meth nozzles.

What's the consensus on nozzel sizes?

I've read that a 3 before the supercharger and a 7 after the intercooler has worked well for others.


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Today I drilled and tapped to install the meth nozzles. Next I'll work on reassembling the supercharger and install it back on the motor.


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A quick update on the project:

I'm still waiting on a couple of parts for the chiller but almost everything else is here and just basically bolting everything back together at this point.

The supercharger is installed and the meth lines are ran although they still need to be secured.






I went ahead and did the valve covers again to be sure that they will not leak on the final cooling mod...

The final cooling mod arrived this afternoon and it is a thing of beauty, made in USA of course.




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Old Mar 16, 2021 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by APBTdogman

I went ahead and did the valve covers again to be sure that they will not leak on the final cooling mod...

The final cooling mod arrived this afternoon and it is a thing of beauty, made in USA of course.

Let me know if you would how the MBH bolts up, I am curious if there is any rubbing. Like the dog!
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Thank you, she is a great pup!

It maybe next week before I get a chance to bolt on the MBH artwork but I will be sure to post up some details of the installation.
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Glad to see someone really tackling cooling in what is to me the best way. KC or interchiller, trunk tank and meth.

I got the KC ball rolling back in 2012 and documented it all, then many started to follow that path. I am bias and perfer the KC over interchiller mostly due to the size. The KC is smaller and easier to place on the car I places mine behind my distronic puck and it blends in like a factory piece. The interchiller is just too big and seeing people’s cutting the crash beam is worrisome. It might out perform the KC but not worth the risk. My KC feeds a trunk tank and is perfect for street use and red light to red light. Great recovery.

The meth I used my washer fluid bottle so that the dash informs me when it’s low. I am tuned for meth and gained great power. IATs don’t go above 100.

I am running a 195 crank pulley and in Alabama heat and humidity I needed all the cooling I could get. Plus more fun to have power year round. People talk of cooler outdoor temps as the best time to drive these for the lower gained back. Why not just make your own weather?? Once it’s colder out it’s harder to get traction too.

I also have MBH LTH on my E and they are great with no rubbing or other issues. I am about to get a set for my G55.

Can see KC location here and it blends right in


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