Top gear m5 vs e55 review
10-04-2004, 11:48 AM
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Top gear m5 vs e55 review
From bmwm5 board.
Interesting review.Basically it said the car was astounding,but the reviewer felt the car had too much gadgetry and made valid comments like well sorted steering and gearboxes don't need different programs to change them etc etc.He then went on to say the car is fabulous,but strangley he felt a bit unmoved by it and summarised by saying though for all its ablity he actually didn't desire one.
They then ran a comparison with the e55 without being conclusive basically saying the e55 is the better luxury car and the m5 the better sports car.Very interestingly it said the m5 had no advantage with its engine ,because of the huge torque of the e55 making the e55 more responsive.
I don't have a scanner so am unable to put it up here.
Interesting review.Basically it said the car was astounding,but the reviewer felt the car had too much gadgetry and made valid comments like well sorted steering and gearboxes don't need different programs to change them etc etc.He then went on to say the car is fabulous,but strangley he felt a bit unmoved by it and summarised by saying though for all its ablity he actually didn't desire one.
They then ran a comparison with the e55 without being conclusive basically saying the e55 is the better luxury car and the m5 the better sports car.Very interestingly it said the m5 had no advantage with its engine ,because of the huge torque of the e55 making the e55 more responsive.
I don't have a scanner so am unable to put it up here.
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Check out this clown from the BMW board being upset about this review
hahahahaha:
"There are two threads to this article, Tom focusing on the car's appeal, technology, driving pleasure and Paul Horrell given the responsibility
of comparison with E55.
Paul does "not" state the E55 is more responsive than E60 M5 but does say "its a draw" on the engine front which is complete and utter BS.
The M5 has direct and instant connection i.e longitudinal agility where the E55 is sloppy, ok sure it has a high torque at low revs but E55 is
another example of pure flat line speed where M5 is a complete drivers package. E55 won't keep up and when I get my car de-restricted the
first thing I'm going to do is **** over the nearest E55 for satisfaction levels.
Mercedes badge all their product lines with AMG models - M division only do cars that can truly be called sporty, "I quote"
Tom hated the 5 series at launch and I think its embedded in his genetic structure to hate the M5 which compels him to say "he don't want one".
I've seen the E60 M5, I've heard it, it looks and sounds awesome. F1 it is.
Tom in my opinion should be sidelined to the vault of emphatic fools, at least Paul says he's "blown away by this one"
I have more respect for the lady from the Sun paper. Bring back Tiff Needle from Top Gear.
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THere you have it
hahahahaha:
"There are two threads to this article, Tom focusing on the car's appeal, technology, driving pleasure and Paul Horrell given the responsibility
of comparison with E55.
Paul does "not" state the E55 is more responsive than E60 M5 but does say "its a draw" on the engine front which is complete and utter BS.
The M5 has direct and instant connection i.e longitudinal agility where the E55 is sloppy, ok sure it has a high torque at low revs but E55 is
another example of pure flat line speed where M5 is a complete drivers package. E55 won't keep up and when I get my car de-restricted the
first thing I'm going to do is **** over the nearest E55 for satisfaction levels.
Mercedes badge all their product lines with AMG models - M division only do cars that can truly be called sporty, "I quote"
Tom hated the 5 series at launch and I think its embedded in his genetic structure to hate the M5 which compels him to say "he don't want one".
I've seen the E60 M5, I've heard it, it looks and sounds awesome. F1 it is.
Tom in my opinion should be sidelined to the vault of emphatic fools, at least Paul says he's "blown away by this one"
I have more respect for the lady from the Sun paper. Bring back Tiff Needle from Top Gear.
Ghufran is offline Reply With Quote"
THere you have it
10-04-2004, 08:24 PM
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LOL, I can't wait to stomp the first, second, and third...E60 M5 I encounter.
I was thinking about getting "M5 KLR" plates but I think it would be too ****y...after all one might beat me, but only if they are sprayin over a 100 shot.
I was thinking about getting "M5 KLR" plates but I think it would be too ****y...after all one might beat me, but only if they are sprayin over a 100 shot.
10-05-2004, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
LOL, I can't wait to stomp the first, second, and third...E60 M5 I encounter.
I was thinking about getting "M5 KLR" plates but I think it would be too ****y...after all one might beat me, but only if they are sprayin over a 100 shot.
I was thinking about getting "M5 KLR" plates but I think it would be too ****y...after all one might beat me, but only if they are sprayin over a 100 shot.
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10-05-2004, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
LOL, I can't wait to stomp the first, second, and third...E60 M5 I encounter.
I was thinking about getting "M5 KLR" plates but I think it would be too ****y...after all one might beat me, but only if they are sprayin over a 100 shot.
I was thinking about getting "M5 KLR" plates but I think it would be too ****y...after all one might beat me, but only if they are sprayin over a 100 shot.
...There will be mods for M5 as well...Nowacks 550 version will be introduced in May 2005..followed by 600Hp version later on... 
By the how much HP do you have at the engine and which mods you have...
10-05-2004, 05:17 AM
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2000 W210 E55->2003 R230 SL500->2004 W211 E55->2007 997TT+2007 E63->2010 GLK350->2012 E550 4matic
Originally Posted by BoBcanada
From bmwm5 board.
Interesting review.Basically it said the car was astounding,but the reviewer felt the car had too much gadgetry and made valid comments like well sorted steering and gearboxes don't need different programs to change them etc etc.He then went on to say the car is fabulous,but strangley he felt a bit unmoved by it and summarised by saying though for all its ablity he actually didn't desire one.
They then ran a comparison with the e55 without being conclusive basically saying the e55 is the better luxury car and the m5 the better sports car.Very interestingly it said the m5 had no advantage with its engine ,because of the huge torque of the e55 making the e55 more responsive.
I don't have a scanner so am unable to put it up here.
Interesting review.Basically it said the car was astounding,but the reviewer felt the car had too much gadgetry and made valid comments like well sorted steering and gearboxes don't need different programs to change them etc etc.He then went on to say the car is fabulous,but strangley he felt a bit unmoved by it and summarised by saying though for all its ablity he actually didn't desire one.
They then ran a comparison with the e55 without being conclusive basically saying the e55 is the better luxury car and the m5 the better sports car.Very interestingly it said the m5 had no advantage with its engine ,because of the huge torque of the e55 making the e55 more responsive.
I don't have a scanner so am unable to put it up here.
10-05-2004, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
LOL, I can't wait to stomp the first, second, and third...E60 M5 I encounter.
I was thinking about getting "M5 KLR" plates but I think it would be too ****y...after all one might beat me, but only if they are sprayin over a 100 shot.
I was thinking about getting "M5 KLR" plates but I think it would be too ****y...after all one might beat me, but only if they are sprayin over a 100 shot.
10-05-2004, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mattar
Your better off not putting that plate but then again it’s your choice. I own a E39 M5 Nowak 500S pushing 540+ HP and that baby is quick it would eat up any stock E55 but then again I hate leaving my cars stock so My New baby will definitely have the Kleeeman upgrade a year or so after I receive it.
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Originally Posted by Belmondo
Check out this clown from the BMW board being upset about this review
hahahahaha:
"There are two threads to this article, Tom focusing on the car's appeal, technology, driving pleasure and Paul Horrell given the responsibility
of comparison with E55.
Paul does "not" state the E55 is more responsive than E60 M5 but does say "its a draw" on the engine front which is complete and utter BS.
The M5 has direct and instant connection i.e longitudinal agility where the E55 is sloppy, ok sure it has a high torque at low revs but E55 is
another example of pure flat line speed where M5 is a complete drivers package. E55 won't keep up and when I get my car de-restricted the
first thing I'm going to do is **** over the nearest E55 for satisfaction levels.
Mercedes badge all their product lines with AMG models - M division only do cars that can truly be called sporty, "I quote"
Tom hated the 5 series at launch and I think its embedded in his genetic structure to hate the M5 which compels him to say "he don't want one".
I've seen the E60 M5, I've heard it, it looks and sounds awesome. F1 it is.
Tom in my opinion should be sidelined to the vault of emphatic fools, at least Paul says he's "blown away by this one"
I have more respect for the lady from the Sun paper. Bring back Tiff Needle from Top Gear.
Ghufran is offline Reply With Quote"
THere you have it
hahahahaha:
"There are two threads to this article, Tom focusing on the car's appeal, technology, driving pleasure and Paul Horrell given the responsibility
of comparison with E55.
Paul does "not" state the E55 is more responsive than E60 M5 but does say "its a draw" on the engine front which is complete and utter BS.
The M5 has direct and instant connection i.e longitudinal agility where the E55 is sloppy, ok sure it has a high torque at low revs but E55 is
another example of pure flat line speed where M5 is a complete drivers package. E55 won't keep up and when I get my car de-restricted the
first thing I'm going to do is **** over the nearest E55 for satisfaction levels.
Mercedes badge all their product lines with AMG models - M division only do cars that can truly be called sporty, "I quote"
Tom hated the 5 series at launch and I think its embedded in his genetic structure to hate the M5 which compels him to say "he don't want one".
I've seen the E60 M5, I've heard it, it looks and sounds awesome. F1 it is.
Tom in my opinion should be sidelined to the vault of emphatic fools, at least Paul says he's "blown away by this one"
I have more respect for the lady from the Sun paper. Bring back Tiff Needle from Top Gear.
Ghufran is offline Reply With Quote"
THere you have it
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2004452645,00.html
10-05-2004, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon200
I assume u have an aftermarket supercharger on ur E39?
The Specs:
N500S
Performance Upgrades:
•NOWACK auto + sport engine-kit, complete with:
•NOWACK exclusive special sports-camshafts EVO III
•Completely prepared cylinderheads (in and outlets)
•Reshaped butterflies / gasflowing of single throttle bodies
•Optimization of air-intakes (RAM-air) and air flow
•Special free flow air filters (2x)
•Special air intake funnels
•Modification of pancake airbox
•Balanced crankshaft
•Balanced connecting rods
•NOWACK exclusive exhaust headers
•NOWACK complete sports exhaust (stainless steel with bigger diameter)
•NOWACK Motorsports catalytic converters
•Optimization of engine software
•V-max. de-limitation (v-max. > 250 km/h)
•Rev. limiter increased to 7.780 rpm.
•NOWACK special sports clutch for up to 700Nm
Handling Upgrades:
•NOWACK special anti-roll bars (front and rear axle)
•Dinan Stage 3 Suspension.
•Dinan Front And Rear Strut Tower Brace.
Other Upgrades:
•Valentine One Radar Detector.
•Front and Rear Laser Jammer.
•All Around Window Tinting 35%.
•BMW TV Retrofit With DVD.
•HID Fog Lights.
•/ / / M Emblemed Aluminum Pedals.
•NOWACK speedometer.
•NOWACK rev. counter.
•AC Schnitzer Roof Spoiler.
•AC Schnitzer Rear Diffuser.
•AC Schnitzer Front Spliters.
•Brembo GT Brake System.
10-05-2004, 01:13 PM
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2005 Brilliant Silver E55
Originally Posted by Mattar
The Specs:
N500S
Performance Upgrades:
•NOWACK auto + sport engine-kit, complete with:
•NOWACK exclusive special sports-camshafts EVO III
•Completely prepared cylinderheads (in and outlets)
•Reshaped butterflies / gasflowing of single throttle bodies
•Optimization of air-intakes (RAM-air) and air flow
•Special free flow air filters (2x)
•Special air intake funnels
•Modification of pancake airbox
•Balanced crankshaft
•Balanced connecting rods
•NOWACK exclusive exhaust headers
•NOWACK complete sports exhaust (stainless steel with bigger diameter)
•NOWACK Motorsports catalytic converters
•Optimization of engine software
•V-max. de-limitation (v-max. > 250 km/h)
•Rev. limiter increased to 7.780 rpm.
•NOWACK special sports clutch for up to 700Nm
Handling Upgrades:
•NOWACK special anti-roll bars (front and rear axle)
•Dinan Stage 3 Suspension.
•Dinan Front And Rear Strut Tower Brace.
Other Upgrades:
•Valentine One Radar Detector.
•Front and Rear Laser Jammer.
•All Around Window Tinting 35%.
•BMW TV Retrofit With DVD.
•HID Fog Lights.
•/ / / M Emblemed Aluminum Pedals.
•NOWACK speedometer.
•NOWACK rev. counter.
•AC Schnitzer Roof Spoiler.
•AC Schnitzer Rear Diffuser.
•AC Schnitzer Front Spliters.
•Brembo GT Brake System.
Oh yeah...this thread does suck...
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Originally Posted by Belmondo
Check out this clown from the BMW board being upset about this review
hahahahaha:
"There are two threads to this article, Tom focusing on the car's appeal, technology, driving pleasure and Paul Horrell given the responsibility
of comparison with E55.
Paul does "not" state the E55 is more responsive than E60 M5 but does say "its a draw" on the engine front which is complete and utter BS.
The M5 has direct and instant connection i.e longitudinal agility where the E55 is sloppy, ok sure it has a high torque at low revs but E55 is
another example of pure flat line speed where M5 is a complete drivers package. E55 won't keep up and when I get my car de-restricted the
first thing I'm going to do is **** over the nearest E55 for satisfaction levels.
Mercedes badge all their product lines with AMG models - M division only do cars that can truly be called sporty, "I quote"
Tom hated the 5 series at launch and I think its embedded in his genetic structure to hate the M5 which compels him to say "he don't want one".
I've seen the E60 M5, I've heard it, it looks and sounds awesome. F1 it is.
Tom in my opinion should be sidelined to the vault of emphatic fools, at least Paul says he's "blown away by this one"
I have more respect for the lady from the Sun paper. Bring back Tiff Needle from Top Gear.
Ghufran is offline Reply With Quote"
THere you have it
hahahahaha:
"There are two threads to this article, Tom focusing on the car's appeal, technology, driving pleasure and Paul Horrell given the responsibility
of comparison with E55.
Paul does "not" state the E55 is more responsive than E60 M5 but does say "its a draw" on the engine front which is complete and utter BS.
The M5 has direct and instant connection i.e longitudinal agility where the E55 is sloppy, ok sure it has a high torque at low revs but E55 is
another example of pure flat line speed where M5 is a complete drivers package. E55 won't keep up and when I get my car de-restricted the
first thing I'm going to do is **** over the nearest E55 for satisfaction levels.
Mercedes badge all their product lines with AMG models - M division only do cars that can truly be called sporty, "I quote"
Tom hated the 5 series at launch and I think its embedded in his genetic structure to hate the M5 which compels him to say "he don't want one".
I've seen the E60 M5, I've heard it, it looks and sounds awesome. F1 it is.
Tom in my opinion should be sidelined to the vault of emphatic fools, at least Paul says he's "blown away by this one"
I have more respect for the lady from the Sun paper. Bring back Tiff Needle from Top Gear.
Ghufran is offline Reply With Quote"
THere you have it
writing's on the wall - me thinks she protests too loudly
