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Old Jul 26, 2022 | 10:36 PM
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M113K Oil Cooler Line Identification

Hoping someone could tell me out of the two lines at the filter which is to or from the engine, top line or bottom line?
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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Brento
Hoping someone could tell me out of the two lines at the filter which is to or from the engine, top line or bottom line?
I think this from the parts catalog will answer your question.
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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 08:36 AM
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Thanks machild, but I don't think that tells us definitively which line is what. Although it says from housing to oil cooler, the same hose set for the E55 also has the return line. The reason I ask is I am installing a combo oil temperature/pressure sensor and need to know which line to put it into. I have AN10 adapters on the filter housing.
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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Brento
Thanks machild, but I don't think that tells us definitively which line is what. Although it says from housing to oil cooler, the same hose set for the E55 also has the return line. The reason I ask is I am installing a combo oil temperature/pressure sensor and need to know which line to put it into. I have AN10 adapters on the filter housing.
Yes, I assumed the similarities between the 211 and 219 platforms was closer than the parts drawing suggest - maybe. Here is the parts catalog info for the 211. It shows the same part numbers for the two lines (depending on the the 211 VIN). The drawing is slightly different though and may indcate the lines are switched in orientation. So, since MB is good about part numbers on individual parts look for a part number on either lines you have and see if you can match them to the listed part number from the parts catalog.
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Yes, I assumed the similarities between the 211 and 219 platforms was closer than the parts drawing suggest - maybe. Here is the parts catalog info for the 211. It shows the same part numbers for the two lines (depending on the the 211 VIN). The drawing is slightly different though and may indcate the lines are switched in orientation. So, since MB is good about part numbers on individual parts look for a part number on either lines you have and see if you can match them to the listed part number from the parts catalog.
And now I realized the second part number listed is not a line but bracket. So forget everything I said. Sorry to confuse things.

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Old Jul 27, 2022 | 09:29 AM
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Unfortunately that doesn't help as per my previous comment. I don't have any hoses as they were disposed of long ago. Also my engine is from an S55, it's being swapped into a 560SEC.
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Maybe infrared temp sensor will tell you the line going from the engine to the cooler vs the return line after oil is cooled.
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Originally Posted by Brento
Unfortunately that doesn't help as per my previous comment. I don't have any hoses as they were disposed of long ago. Also my engine is from an S55, it's being swapped into a 560SEC.
Oh, this does get more challenging. If I had a working infrared I'd check for you but mine crapped out this past winter. Maybe hand feel will tell the difference between the two lines.
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Another great suggestion but I don’t have running engine to find that out! Trying to finish off all the lines etc before starting up. If you could have a touch and see that would be much appreciated unless someone else chimes in that knows.
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The top one is the return from the cooler. It dumps through that hole to the outside of the filter. I just verified with the air gun.

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Thanks Joe much appreciated. I've got a 10AN male female adapter that I will put on the lower fitting which has a 1/8" NPT port which I will fit a Bosch combination temperature/pressure sensor. Both inputs will got to my Haltech Elite then I will use A DPO to run the thermo on my oil cooler.
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I could be wrong, but not sure that is a good spot to tap for pressure, as it will be behind the thermostat, and ahead of the cooler and filter. Will give you artificial readings on pressure.
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I’m tapping directly into the test port using a Rife combo sensor for my Holley EFI.


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This location eliminates the issue of the thermostat.
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So the oil cooler doesn’t have oil
circulating through it all the time? I’m already utilising the port shown by Joe for the sensor to my W126 instrument cluster oil pressure gauge.
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So the oil cooler doesn’t have oil
circulating through it all the time? I’m already utilising the port shown by Joe for the sensor to my W126 instrument cluster oil pressure gauge.
Correct. There is a thermostat mechanism in the filter housing that bypasses the cooler until the oil gets up to a certain temp. (I'm not sure what temp). Any sensor placed in either of the lines will only give you info once the engine is up to temp, and may shut off periodically as the temperature varies. The only really good place to grab oil pressure is at the test port.
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Ok thanks I'm going to have to figure out a way to get the VDO ohm style sender for the instrument cluster into the test port as well as the Bosch 5V combination sender for the Haltech ECU. As you know there is not a lot of space around the rest port due to the engine belts.
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Maybe a feed to a remote mount block or something.
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I used some fittings and a -3 brake line to remote mount the sensor.


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Do you think if you remote mounted the sender it would give inaccurate readings for temperature as it is not in the flow and is at the end of a long tube?
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Not at all. Pressure in the tube cannot be different than the source, since it ends in a closed end. ie, There's no flow through the tube. If it were any other way, old mechanical gauges with a capillary tube inside the cabin would give invalid readings. They didn't/don't.
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Not at all. Pressure in the tube cannot be different than the source, since it ends in a closed end. ie, There's no flow through the tube. If it were any other way, old mechanical gauges with a capillary tube inside the cabin would give invalid readings. They didn't/don't.
I was referring to temperature not pressure.
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Temperature, I get. I think I'd read it at the oil pan, myself.
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