E500 Faster Than E55??
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E500 Faster Than E55??
I'm in a panic. Just about an hour ago I was on Wilshire Blvd. (for those of you who are fimiliar with Beverly Hills) with 2 friends in the car and came accross an E500 driving like a jerk. Likewise, I pull up next to him and overtake him with some speed. Next thing I know we're racing down Wilshire and he's right on my a$$. I open up as wide as I can and he's still just a little bit behind me. Now its a given that I wasnt wide open the whole time and he probably was, but he kept up REALLY well. I also raced another E55 not too long ago and he took me every time. I don't get it, my car for some reason is starting to seem sort of slow. Whats going on? My dad's E55, also an '04 but early year production model, seems MUCH more skippy on the throttle and definitely feels faster. The options I have are 6-Disk CD, Parktronik, and Navi. The only option his car has is 6-Disk. But these options can't weigh the car down THAT much to the point where his seems faster, right? Also, since my car is an earlier production '04, I've got the spare tire as opposed to the "tire in a can". This adds some significant weight too, I guess. Either way, I raced an E500 tonight and I had to try pretty hard to stay out in front. I am an exceptionally good driver as that I have taken a number of courses and driving is a passion of mine, but I just don't know what happened. I'm also prett sure that his car didn't have any aftermarket work although it could have...PLEASE tell me whats going on!
P.S. I also saw an SL55 Renntech at Katana Restaurant tonight. Absolutely amazing. He also powder-coated his badges to match his wheels. AWESOME
P.S. I also saw an SL55 Renntech at Katana Restaurant tonight. Absolutely amazing. He also powder-coated his badges to match his wheels. AWESOME
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It may not have been a bone stock E500. Remember, you can supercharge the E500 as well... given the same power, the E500 might be faster due to lighter weight. So don't worry, I have an E500 (wife's car) and an E55 here. The E500 isn't bad but is NOTHING in comparison to the E55 acceleration-wise. If he stuck with you, he was NOT running stock or there's something so wrong with your car that you'd know.
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I have a Vericom which was less expensive than a lot of other "toys" that I have wasted money on. It will give you a baseline on performance and will extrapolate torque and HP. I think Passport and several other companies are marketing similar accelerometers also.
My 03 E500 won't touch the performance of the E55 above 50mph. Below that speed reaction time and traction probably is the great equalizer.
There are nitrous kits out there that add 150+ HP and scads of torque to a stock E500. A bottle lasts about 30 or 40 secs which is plenty of time for a "street race" I have been smoking Turbo Porsches and Ferraris for years in my POS L98 Vette with that little bottle. I never tell them that I have anything except a slightly massaged Vette....
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My 03 E500 won't touch the performance of the E55 above 50mph. Below that speed reaction time and traction probably is the great equalizer.
There are nitrous kits out there that add 150+ HP and scads of torque to a stock E500. A bottle lasts about 30 or 40 secs which is plenty of time for a "street race" I have been smoking Turbo Porsches and Ferraris for years in my POS L98 Vette with that little bottle. I never tell them that I have anything except a slightly massaged Vette....
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Get thee to a dyno......
Can you light up the rear tires at will from any speed in first gear(with the ESP off)?
Does the car slide sideways if you aren't pointed exactly straight when you nail it at slower speeds? Does it give a serious chirp when you hit second gear?
If not, then something may be up (or down) with your E55.....
My 05 E55 does these things easily and is stock (save for K&N filters)
Can you light up the rear tires at will from any speed in first gear(with the ESP off)?
Does the car slide sideways if you aren't pointed exactly straight when you nail it at slower speeds? Does it give a serious chirp when you hit second gear?
If not, then something may be up (or down) with your E55.....
My 05 E55 does these things easily and is stock (save for K&N filters)
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Originally Posted by SweC32
Get thee to a dyno......
Can you light up the rear tires at will from any speed in first gear(with the ESP off)?)
Can you light up the rear tires at will from any speed in first gear(with the ESP off)?)
Originally Posted by SweC32
Does the car slide sideways if you aren't pointed exactly straight when you nail it at slower speeds? Does it give a serious chirp when you hit second gear?
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Chirp into second gear?? My '04 will never do this in any shift mode. Maybe the '05 cars have a revamped tranny program? Who else has an '05 that actually shifts quick enough to evoke a "chirp?" Mine is just like Beowulf's car... All of the cars I drove at the AMG challenge shifted exactly the same way....lazy and smooth but still pulling. SL55, CL55, CLK55, and S55 seemed to shift the same.
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Originally Posted by Eleanor Owner
I'm in a panic. Just about an hour ago I was on Wilshire Blvd. (for those of you who are fimiliar with Beverly Hills) with 2 friends in the car and came accross an E500 driving like a jerk. Likewise, I pull up next to him and overtake him with some speed. Next thing I know we're racing down Wilshire and he's right on my a$$. I open up as wide as I can and he's still just a little bit behind me. Now its a given that I wasnt wide open the whole time and he probably was, but he kept up REALLY well. I also raced another E55 not too long ago and he took me every time. I don't get it, my car for some reason is starting to seem sort of slow. Whats going on? My dad's E55, also an '04 but early year production model, seems MUCH more skippy on the throttle and definitely feels faster. The options I have are 6-Disk CD, Parktronik, and Navi. The only option his car has is 6-Disk. But these options can't weigh the car down THAT much to the point where his seems faster, right? Also, since my car is an earlier production '04, I've got the spare tire as opposed to the "tire in a can". This adds some significant weight too, I guess. Either way, I raced an E500 tonight and I had to try pretty hard to stay out in front. I am an exceptionally good driver as that I have taken a number of courses and driving is a passion of mine, but I just don't know what happened. I'm also prett sure that his car didn't have any aftermarket work although it could have...PLEASE tell me whats going on!
P.S. I also saw an SL55 Renntech at Katana Restaurant tonight. Absolutely amazing. He also powder-coated his badges to match his wheels. AWESOME
P.S. I also saw an SL55 Renntech at Katana Restaurant tonight. Absolutely amazing. He also powder-coated his badges to match his wheels. AWESOME
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Originally Posted by aries palmiotto
I know that the 04 E500's leave the C55's on stand-still take-off.
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Don't forget that given similar handling on the E500 and E55 you had (2) passengers as opposed to how many in the E500 (none)? Also, Wilshire Blvd. doesn't allow for very good tests of acceleration (always has traffic congestion, lights and cops) especially if you guys were chasing each other. Besides, it's much easier to follow than to lead. 
If your E55 isn't running optimally, I imagine that it'd still be very tough for an E500 to keep up on a straightaway regardless if you had 4 passengers and the E500 none. Remember that you have close to 200HP MAX and 200+TQ MAX next to the fact that you are much higher up the power band in ANY RPM vs. the E500.
If your E55 isn't running optimally, I imagine that it'd still be very tough for an E500 to keep up on a straightaway regardless if you had 4 passengers and the E500 none. Remember that you have close to 200HP MAX and 200+TQ MAX next to the fact that you are much higher up the power band in ANY RPM vs. the E500.
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Originally Posted by BlackC230Coupe
How? the C55 is capable of a 4.7 sec 0-60. The E500 even with 7speed is not close to 4s.
But the amg cars are quicker in the end.
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Originally Posted by RU_MATRX
Don't forget that given similar handling on the E500 and E55 you had (2) passengers as opposed to how many in the E500 (none)? Also, Wilshire Blvd. doesn't allow for very good tests of acceleration (always has traffic congestion, lights and cops) especially if you guys were chasing each other. Besides, it's much easier to follow than to lead.
If your E55 isn't running optimally, I imagine that it'd still be very tough for an E500 to keep up on a straightaway regardless if you had 4 passengers and the E500 none. Remember that you have close to 200HP MAX and 200+TQ MAX next to the fact that you are much higher up the power band in ANY RPM vs. the E500.
If your E55 isn't running optimally, I imagine that it'd still be very tough for an E500 to keep up on a straightaway regardless if you had 4 passengers and the E500 none. Remember that you have close to 200HP MAX and 200+TQ MAX next to the fact that you are much higher up the power band in ANY RPM vs. the E500.
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
For a joke I took on an associates C32 in my 04 E500 and the E500 was FASTER through first second and half of third. Up to say 60 the two were door to door and then the C32 started to pull ahead. On freeway pulls the two were very close with the C32 pulling a bit. The 7 speed does really help. First second and third are very close in spacing and it never falls out of the power band.
But the amg cars are quicker in the end.
But the amg cars are quicker in the end.
Btw, i thought u had a C32? did u get an E500? or u have both?
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Originally Posted by BlackC230Coupe
I dont undertsand how? the E500 even with the 7 speed does not do a 0-60 time like a C32 or a C55. I cant see or understand how the E500 is ahead?
Btw, i thought u had a C32? did u get an E500? or u have both?
Btw, i thought u had a C32? did u get an E500? or u have both?
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You're lucky to have another E55 in the family to test against. Should be simple. If your dad's car feels much faster than yours, somethng is wrong with yours. You'll probably need to do that test and tell your dealer because they will probably start with the imfamous "no problem found"
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Originally Posted by Stephen04E55
Chirp into second gear?? My '04 will never do this in any shift mode. Maybe the '05 cars have a revamped tranny program? Who else has an '05 that actually shifts quick enough to evoke a "chirp?" Mine is just like Beowulf's car... All of the cars I drove at the AMG challenge shifted exactly the same way....lazy and smooth but still pulling. SL55, CL55, CLK55, and S55 seemed to shift the same.
Mine chirps on downshifts from 3rd to 2nd but at 40 something MPH...and this was after the Rennetch...I have never chirped the other way (1st to 2nd).
