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Old Dec 25, 2023 | 12:38 PM
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E55 long tube headers without resonator

Does anyone have longtube headers with the resonator also removed? Is there alot drone?

I bought the vrp longtubes and put the car on stands to do the job but I found out that the previous owner removed the resonator and welded in straight pipes, so if I install the headers I will end up with long tubes, no cats, no resonator and stock E55 mufflers. Also going to make the install harder bc I can't connect it to the rest of the exhaust since I can't weld. Not sure why the previous owner would leave everything stock and only remove the resonator.
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Old Dec 26, 2023 | 09:33 AM
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with stock mufflers will NOT be loud
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Old Dec 26, 2023 | 06:00 PM
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Its doable with the stock mufflers.

Friend had that setup with c63 mufflers on his e55 and it was reall y loud and raspy. Ended up trading the c63 mufflers with my brother for his stock ones to quiet the car down. I have a clip on my instagram @norcalamg
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Old Dec 28, 2023 | 03:55 PM
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Resonator does nothing on these cars as far as sound volume.

The stock mufflers will baffle long tubes (or any other exhaust setup from block back) and will increase volume a bit on half or WOT only.

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Old Jan 1, 2024 | 07:35 PM
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I have straight pipes to the stock mufflers. It sounds nice inside and you won't be a cop magnet.
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It is always interesting to see conversations around resonators when talking about overall exhaust noise volume.

Mufflers do exactly as the name suggests; they make the combustion noise quieter and more 'muffled'.

Resonators do exactly as the name suggests; they are selected to cancel out certain exhaust pulse frequencies that cause an unwanted 'resonation' through the rev range, and in turn the cabin. Otherwise known as a drone.

Every car has a different resonator requirement, but you can be assured that MB selected the resonator that is in this place for a reason. Leave it alone.

If you want to make noise, get LTH and high-flow cats (not a cat delete, they stink like sh1zen) and muff delete.
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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SMOKEY300
It is always interesting to see conversations around resonators when talking about overall exhaust noise volume.

Mufflers do exactly as the name suggests; they make the combustion noise quieter and more 'muffled'.

Resonators do exactly as the name suggests; they are selected to cancel out certain exhaust pulse frequencies that cause an unwanted 'resonation' through the rev range, and in turn the cabin. Otherwise known as a drone.

Every car has a different resonator requirement, but you can be assured that MB selected the resonator that is in this place for a reason. Leave it alone.

If you want to make noise, get LTH and high-flow cats (not a cat delete, they stink like sh1zen) and muff delete.
I would totally keep the resonator, but i just found out the previous owner had it romoved and straight pipes welded in. I bought LTHs to install and found it
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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SMOKEY300
It is always interesting to see conversations around resonators when talking about overall exhaust noise volume.

Mufflers do exactly as the name suggests; they make the combustion noise quieter and more 'muffled'.

Resonators do exactly as the name suggests; they are selected to cancel out certain exhaust pulse frequencies that cause an unwanted 'resonation' through the rev range, and in turn the cabin. Otherwise known as a drone.

Every car has a different resonator requirement, but you can be assured that MB selected the resonator that is in this place for a reason. Leave it alone.

If you want to make noise, get LTH and high-flow cats (not a cat delete, they stink like sh1zen) and muff delete.
Do you own an M113K car? Resonators DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ON THESE MOTORS. Zero. Zilch. NADA. They don't do anything to exhaust pulses or anything else you said above.
I've owned three of these now and have played with many exhaust combinations and the resonator isn't even part of the conversation with volume or anything else. Removing it does nothing, leaving it on does nothing. Even if you had superpowers to hear exhaust impulses like that in the cabin for the M113K, you still wouldn't notice a difference.

The volume increase is strictly in the mufflers for the M113K cars; anybody that owns one will tell you the same. LTH add some noise to the trained ear.
This isn't a 6.2L NA car(eg the W214 C63) , which the resonator swap does a great deal in noise volume (owned one of those as well).

Please don't spread misinformation.

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Are you arguing the definition of a resonator? I am not saying it contributes to volume - I'm saying it exists to manage certain frequencies that the M113 produces and acoustically engineered to dampen them so they aren't offensive, normally at a single point in the rev range.

By all means, remove your cats and mufflers for more noise.

https://www.walkerexhaust.com/suppor...onator-do.html

(And yes - I have an 05 E55 wagon. It's got hand-made long tube headers, 200 cel cats, X-pipe factory RESONATOR and C63 mufflers....also running hellcat TB, 630cc's, looped rail, twin walbro 450s, 77mm pulley, Forced Induction Interchiller, CWA-250 pump, VRP tank etc etc......it's not my first rodeo)

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There is no arguing here, these are facts about the resonator on these cars. The resonator on the M113K cars has no relevance to volume, drone or anything regarding the exhaust. If you remove the resonator and look inside, you can see through it. The car will not drone or change at all if the resonator is removed. The thread is not about removing the mufflers - removing the mufflers will result in substantial drone.
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There is no arguing here, these are facts about the resonator on these cars. The resonator on the M113K cars has no relevance to volume, drone or anything regarding the exhaust. If you remove the resonator and look inside, you can see through it. The car will not drone or change at all if the resonator is removed. The thread is not about removing the mufflers - removing the mufflers will result in substantial drone.
Really! I never knew!! We should definitely get on a plane to Mercedes Benz AG and make sure they know that they’ve been wasting a heap of money and time putting resonators on their cars.

And then, we’ll send you on to nasa. Your talents shall not be wasted on lowly Mercedes enthusiast forum boards!!
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Old Jan 6, 2024 | 06:06 AM
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I have ARH with their mid pipe (off road x), going into straight pipes instead of a resonator, finally flowing through C63 mufflers. Cruising the car has zero drone. At WOT, it is open header loud!
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Old Jan 6, 2024 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SMOKEY300
Really! I never knew!! We should definitely get on a plane to Mercedes Benz AG and make sure they know that they’ve been wasting a heap of money and time putting resonators on their cars.

And then, we’ll send you on to nasa. Your talents shall not be wasted on lowly Mercedes enthusiast forum boards!!
First sign someone is blowing smoke and has no clue what they’re talking about , resorting to condescending insults.

Keep going, you’re the real winner.
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First sign someone is blowing smoke and has no clue what they’re talking about , resorting to condescending insults.

Keep going, you’re the real winner.
If the resonator does ‘absolutely nothing’ - why would MB go to the effort of putting it in. Answer that and I’ll drop it.
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Originally Posted by SMOKEY300
If the resonator does ‘absolutely nothing’ - why would MB go to the effort of putting it in. Answer that and I’ll drop it.
Why do manufactures do a lot of things that don't make sense? They have their reasons, maybe the resonators pulled the noise level down a couple decibels to meet maximum regulations in X country but the very slight difference is not discernible to the human ear. I will tell you Armo is speaking from his experience and it seems to be the consensus with others.
Believe what you will.

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My car has long tube headers, dual 3" all the way back with an X pipe, no cats, no resonators, and C63 mufflers. There is effectively no drone, at any speed, and it's a wagon so it should theoretically be more noticeable than a sedan. Relatively tame at idle and cruise but it's brutal under WOT
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Originally Posted by SMOKEY300
If the resonator does ‘absolutely nothing’ - why would MB go to the effort of putting it in. Answer that and I’ll drop it.
If you can’t answer this question yourself, I recommend you sell your car and buy a Prius or EV car.
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