Bilal

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50326

Look only at the P500 modes...notice the times are very similar if not exactly those of the E55...?

Now if they have a black box for detecting how many times you used Launch control and therefore decline a replacement clutch, can you imagine how many M5 owners will be buying clutches just to beat you E55 owners!? :p

reggid

Didn't a thread similar to this just get closed the other day:p

The cars will be close to 100km/h either way (launching a 1800kg car is difficult on road tyres and a normal untreated road surface ). but 118.1MPH trap speed is quite fast!

BoBcanada

12.7 1/4 thats good news !

Jakpro1

It all becomes moot when out little German elves roll out the new Beast later this year....allllll becomes moot. They won't let us down....I have faith.

Plus I am writing them so much, I think they are gonna get a restraining order, but still.......

vraa

I was hoping it'd be faster.

Do you think the M5 will have heat issues?

BoBcanada

I wasnt, i wanna be faster! our car is 3 years old and it will kick M5s butt, no seriously on the streets its a no competition, from a roll too.

But what i really wanna see is a new e63 7 speed!

vraa

I want to be faster, yes, but if we are faster, then Mercedes doesn't have that much of an incentitive to bring out a badder E-Beast.

skratch77

You can luanch the car as many times as you want bmw cant void a warrenty for something that the car has from the factory.

Theres a few people that had there smg's clutches changed on the e46 m3 and they were covered.

they have to cover it by law.

Now that theres going to be a manual 6 spd aswell im pretty sure you would have to pay for a new clutch.

zdkdeeier493

This is true. However, first, the E36 M3 had many issues not only with the transmisson, but with the engine as well, which caused many M3 owners to replace numerous parts besides the clutch. Second, the E36 (or any BMW besides the new M5 for that matter) was not equipped with the launch feature. Therefore, any fault in the transmission is a factory defect. Finally, it IS, in fact, possible for BMW to denounce responsibility for damages to the transmission if, and only if, it is clearly stated during the purchase of the vehicle that it will void the warranty on the transmission if the launch feature is to be used more than a certain amount of times. As stated in an earlier post in this thread, BMW can install a virtual "black box" on the car to record the amount of times the launch feature is used and thus place the responsibility of a shot transmission on the customer, and not themselves.

M&M

Say dudes, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but one can't really compare times from different mags unless the conditions are proven to be similar.

Therefore, I suggest (tell me if its makes sense or if its too extreme a theory) that we compare this M5 test to the E55 test BY THE SAME MAGAZINE. What you guys think? Same magazine, same driver, tested at the same testing venue with the same test procedure. Only difference will be ambients.

Also the P400 modes are for driving in traffic. And the other gerabox modes are not for racing, but cruising.

So here's the LC results:

0-100 km/h 4,7 seconds
0-160 km/h 9,4
0-200 km/h 13,9
Quater mile: 12,7 seconds at 190,2 km/h (119mph)

Now bear in mind that Sport Auto test with a passenger, full tank of gas & don't cool the engine or adjust tyre pressures. M5 seem kinda slow I know. But lets check what THE SAME MAG got for the E55:

Test in sport auto 01/2003
Gewicht 1944 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,3 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,9 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,6 s

They didn't publish the 1/4 mile time but Autocar got the E55 1/4 mile as 13.0 @ 183 km/h (114.3 mph).

CLS 55 seems to be as fast as an E55. HEre's a test:

Test in auto zeitung 26/2004
Gewicht 1845 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,4 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,7 s
0 - 120 km/h 6,0 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,7 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,0 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,6 s

Now somebody mentioned rolling runs against an M5.Bear in mind the test below was a shoot-out so the cars were tested side by side:


0 - 40 km/h: CLS55: 1.5 sec / M5: 1.5 sec
0 - 60 km/h: CLS55: 2.3 sec / M5: 2.3 sec
0 - 80 km/h: CLS55: 3.2 sec / M5: 3.5 sec
0 - 100 km/h: CLS55: 4.7 sec / M5: 4.5 sec
0 - 120 km/h: CLS55: 6.0 sec / M5: 5.9 sec
0 - 140 km/h: CLS55: 7.9 sec / M5: 7.4 sec
0 - 160 km/h: CLS55: 10.2 sec / M5: 9.2 sec
0 - 180 km/h: CLS55: 12.3 sec / M5: 11.6 sec
0 - 200 km/h: CLS55: 15.4 sec / M5: 13.8 sec


Acceleration in 4th/5th gear (CLS55):
80 - 100 km/h: 3.1 / 4.6 sec
80 - 120 km/h: 5.9 / 8.7 sec
80 - 140 km/h: 9.0 / 12.8 sec
80 - 160 km/h: 12.0 / 16.8 sec
80 - 180 km/h: 15.8 / - sec

Acceleration in 4th/5th/6th/7th gear (M5):
80 - 100 km/h: 2.2 / 3.2 / 3.6 / 4.7 sec
80 - 120 km/h: 4.5 / 5.9 / 6.9 / 9.9 sec
80 - 140 km/h: 6.9 / 8.7 / 10.2 / 14.6 sec
80 - 160 km/h: 8.8 / 11.7 / 13.5 / 19.0 sec
80 - 180 km/h: 10.8 / 14.4 / 17.3 / 23.9 sec

VelocitE55

Here we go again.

reggid

the ET is largely dependant on surface and ambient conditions but the trapspeed shows real performance and 118.2mph seems faster than the e55 from any magazine tests (don't quote me on that :p ).

But tests between the CLS and M have shown that to 100km/h the cars are very close but once the cars are moving the m5 has an advantage measured by all magazines to date (don't quote me on that either :p )

amdeutsch

For the last time boys. Take it to PM and/or email.

This thread is now closed.