jimand7

I know there is a slight bump in HP for 2011 but in 2012 TT'S!

There are so many 63's on the lot I would think they would pop in the TT engine...thoughts?

I am thinking of the new wagon..thoughts on that?

absent

Good question.
The new engine is more efficient ,more powerful,more competitive then anything else on the market currently so one would think they would want to put that thing in new cars asap.
Argument that they don't have enough of them for anything more then the 2011 S and CL is not valid either since the allocations of these are at record low numbers.
Good luck trying to order S63 for this Fall delivery.....

jimand7

I agree, furthermore it is the first year of the e63 wagon...so will it be the only year they make a normally aspirated version of it or will they hold off and not drop it in the wagon till '12...weird stuff.......

Racing Dad

I don't think they usually make changes that quickly. I think the 2009 was the first e63, so they don't make an engine change until 3 years later, so the 2012 version. Then the new body will be in 2015.
Right? Same thing for the 211, body stayed the same for 6 years, but engine change happens every 6 years as well, but at alternating intervals. i.e. 6.3 L engine was introduced in the W211 back in 2006. (my years may be off, I'm based it off the 2009 date).

adam28

2007 was the first e63.

E-Ridium 63

Even in today's standards, i don't think mfg'ing processes are at a point where someones says lets flip the switch to TT's and everything works. They've got a strategy blueprint which involves probably hundreds or even thousands of steps not the least of which is parts procurement to make sure you can supply enough cars globally and with different stds in each country and marketing data as to when best to re-fresh your cars to maximize yield.

On the wagon...i don't think they are avail in the US.

jimand7

They are available in the U.S. for order only....My dealer is putting my name on a black loaded one....but cannot find the p2 package for the wagon...

the TT is going to be sick!

ppic

You can find the answer of the TT introduction, 25% less CO2 emission with higher Hp and torque (http://www.mercedes-amg.com/#/157v8). They perform better with less fuel to meet emission regulations that are more restricting.

IanSL55

MB wouldn't want to disenfranchise buyers of the 2010 W212's that quickly...

Additionally, I don't think offering the TT version is going to magically increase sales. I doubt the majority of E63 buyers are "holding out" until the TT version arrives. It's just the hard core motorists.

220S

MBUSA said they put in a business plan for Daimler to export the W212 E63 wagon. Apparently it was a go.

So I stopped in at the dealer and asked about ordering one. They said not until 2012-13 because they're going to be waiting for the TT motor. They said it costs too much to get the wagon DOT and EPA approved and then have to do it again (when it has the TT), because they sell so few AMG wagons in the US.

jimand7

that is awful news....My guy at my dealer told me that we could order one....I guess I will have to bust some heads over there.

But I will wait for the TT motor that is for sure!

E-Ridium 63

Lesson #1, never trust what a dealer salesperson tells you.

Lesson #2, see lesson #1...

jimand7

well, my father in law owns a mercedes dealership (amongst other brands). Time to go from the top down on this one..i'll get the scoop.

Dericious

I think they did away with the premium 2 package... it's just a permium 1 package that has the xenons and stuff. at least that's what they did with the CLS.

Dericious

holy cr@p, am i doing my math right? 663 ft/lb of torque?

220S

Yeah, definitely please keep us posted. It would be good to know if we have the choice of a 6.2 now and/or a 5.5 later.

btw, on another note, designo has really expanded now and lots more choices for interior goodies and exterior paints. Hopefully that'll make up for the stripping down done when the W212 first came out.

absent

They should've done it with 3 lb/ft of torque more.
Great for marketing....

South Ocean1

While I was at the MB Dealership this morning, I asked the Sales Manager about whether we could "special order" an E63 wagon. He said "no" - there is nothing in any of his materials which indicates they can order an E63 wagon right now - no pricing or information of any kind that he has access to. That is too bad as it would be a great seven seat replacement for my wife's people mover . . .

Hope that changes when the TTV8 comes out . . .Until then the CTS-V wagon will rule the roost.

220S

That's what I thought. I was told the same: https://mbworld.org/forums/4230589-post10.html

But it will be available with the 5.5 TT. MBUSA has implied that it will be here then.

South Ocean1

220S

Good. That will give me a little more time to convince the wife that we need to replace her people mover (Enclave) with the E63 wagon. She drives my E63 all the time now. The Enclave never leaves the garage unless we need to take all three kids somewhere . . .

Plus it would be fun to have one with the 6.2 V8 and the other with the TTV8 - and I am an N/A engine fan by nature.

R KLASSE

I was thinking you've got to be pretty rich to have three kids and an E63, let alone thinking about adding another Pains me to think I recently had to sell my beloved Carrera when my son came along, of course my son is better than any car would ever be.... But damn I am jealous thats for sure