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New M5 1/4 time 11.92 @ 120.25

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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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New M5 1/4 time 11.92 @ 120.25

Holy cow, I leave for a while and MB puts twin turbos in the E?!?! That's amazing. Awesome what tuners are doing with it.

Got a M5 2 weeks ago. Great car, twin clutch setup is awesome. Feels like the GTR on shifting. Is the new 63 the same or similar?

Haven't had the M5 on a road course yet but the drag strip yielded impressive results. Looks to be pretty close with the MB til the tuning starts.

Here's what was posted on the M5 board. Hope everyone is well and fast!


F10 M5 Dragstrip Runs Last Friday Night

New M5 with 1,400 miles on it and after initial service ran 11.924 @ 120.25 mph. I had a race in Cali so I sent it with a friend to run it.

Below is his feedback and timeslip:
"Best run of 11.924@120.25.
1.840 -60 ft.

The car is extremely consistent. My other runs were 12.02-12.06 at 120-121 mph.

The launch control doesn't work half bad, and the rpm hold is adjustable. It just takes some practice on how to activate it in a hurry.

With those intercoolers it really doesn't heat soak much at all either. Did 3 runs back to back and got the same results. Pretty amazing car for the weight.

Scaled it with less than 1/4 tank and it weighed in at 4380 lbs with no driver."

Track was South Georgia Motorsports Park in Valdosta, GA.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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The E63 has the MCT which doesnt have a tq converter but is still considered a planetary auto. It doesnt shift as fast as the MCT but its very very strong and probably can handle up to 900-1000 lb/ft of tq.

As for times- I think most 63 TT's are running close times in the PP format so its a driver's race. The tuned 63's are closer to 125-126 mph in traps. And then some of the super modded ones are almost or over 130 mph. I think the 5.5tt engine can take and make more out of mods.

Either way the M5 is a marvel with its DCT and 4.4 liter displacement. I consider one just because I know how M's drive and feel and thats just as, if not, more important than pure straightline speed IMHO.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 01:46 PM
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I thought it actually would be faster(thats still fast as hell), but a MB non-pp car on this forum went 11.98 at 118mph, stock. The m5 has 560 hp and the MB non-pp car is what? 518? And the M5 has a wicked tranny... Seems strange to me.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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Look at the amazing evolution. Only 6 years ago I was the first Mercedes in the 10's with a 2005 E55 that ran 12.5's stock. Now, these same models are running 11's in stock trim and my old 10 second run is down to 35th on Dragtimes! That means only 12 more years til these cars are all running 10 second quarter miles in stock trim!

These are faster 1/4 mile times than most professional racing sports cars are running all the way up to the prototype classes, with 1,500 lbs more of weight.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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IT LIKE ITS STOLEN!
who cares whats faster! there both amazing cars ive owned both previous models and the current 2012 E63 and i'd be happy to own either of the 2.


as long as whatever i own is faster lol
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RobbieRob
I thought it actually would be faster(thats still fast as hell), but a MB non-pp car on this forum went 11.98 at 118mph, stock. The m5 has 560 hp and the MB non-pp car is what? 518? And the M5 has a wicked tranny... Seems strange to me.
Good questions...

Sometimes we forget that peak HP is relatively unused on such beasts like the E63TT and the new F10 M5. On the S85 E60 M5 peak hp was always needed as the curve on the dyno was very steep. Thus one always had to be 8/10ths or more on the engine.

So what Id love to see is an E63TT PP dyno'd at the same time as an F10 M5 and then have the curves placed on top of each other to see where the sweet spot(s) lie for both cars.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
vic im amazed you dont have an m5 yet....whens the big day
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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vic im amazed you dont have an m5 yet....whens the big day
Not dying to get one... but am intrigued LOL

We shall see... there are several on the ground locally
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
where have u seen them , i checked creviers site and didnt see any.....probably tucked away....
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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where have u seen them , i checked creviers site and didnt see any.....probably tucked away....
A simple autotrader search within 100 miles of the OC yields many----

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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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First of all....welcome back Derek!

Congrats on pickin up the M5. I bet it's a hell of a car just like our new 55TT's.

Definitely some fast times for out of the box fun!
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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thats bull**** i launched my car with 115 miles on it
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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thats bull**** i launched my car with 115 miles on it
I think it was operator (rock) error LOL

Dave are you sure you couldnt launch it? RS works once temps are reached.
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 09:41 PM
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I think it was operator (rock) error LOL

Dave are you sure you couldnt launch it? RS works once temps are reached.

I tried several times when I was under 1000 miles and it would not go into launch mode. I even spoke to my tech about it and he indicated that to be normal during the break-in period.

I will not rule out operator error (remember, my name is rock) but I hope I disseminated accurate information.

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I tried several times when I was under 1000 miles and it would not go into launch mode. I even spoke to my tech about it and he indicated that to be normal during the break-in period.

I will not rule out operator error (remember, my name is rock) but I hope I disseminated accurate information.
There is no break in switch that the dealer has to turn on to enable RS- its always there. Now keep in mind, its a relative PITA to actually use.
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