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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:58 PM
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2014 E63 AMG vs. 2014 E63 AMG (S)

What are the differences? Also what is the price difference?
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 12:17 AM
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With the S line you get to impress kids in Acuras.
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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Differences are explained here:

http://bit.ly/Y75SqN
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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From what I recall, S comes with higher power 577hp/590tq, carbon fiber in the engine compartment, red calipers, alcantara wheel and suspension adjustments (not sure what this exactly entails).
The S package will have the diff as standard as well.
I also recall a statement about a different flat bottom steering wheel but I doubt this to be true.
I have not seen pricing yet.
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 12:59 PM
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Differences are explained here:

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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOtherEric
Differences are explained here:

http://bit.ly/Y75SqN
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JumpinJim
With the S line you get to impress kids in Acuras.
You mean the Matte black wheels and carbon fiber trim? The Porsche Turbo S PDK has something similar. So does the Nissan GTR Black Edition.

The Porsche ESPECIALLY is sure ready to impress them ricers.
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by emericr
..., carbon fiber in the engine compartment...
Nope, not for 2014.

Originally Posted by Innocent_Stud
...carbon fiber trim? ...:
Nope.

The S Model's features are outlined in the press release:
http://www.zercustoms.com/pdf/2014-M...ations-USA.pdf

The S features are pretty straightforward to piece together, but the price is anyone's guess. IIRC, C&D estimated $15k but based on Europe pricing, I'm expecting more like $11k-$12k.

And the big question is what will be standard feature on all models? E.g. it looks like the 360 camera is a $1000 option in the UK, while Parktronic is standard. Who knows what they'll do here though.

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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 05:50 PM
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You can get the engine cover in carbon if you want
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Chocofishez
You can get the engine cover in carbon if you want
Sure, but the question was: what comes standard in the S Model. The CF engine cover does not, according to the press release, which is all we have to go on.
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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Here's some commonly known information on the 2014 E63

Fast Facts:
  • Restyled exterior with new wheels
  • More powerful twin-turbo V-8 engine
  • 4Matic all-wheel drive is standard
  • New E63 AMG S-Model 4Matic with more powerful engine
  • Upgraded Attention Assist technology
  • Standard LED headlights
  • Standard Collision Prevention Assist
  • Optional carbon fiber engine cover
  • Optional carbon fiber trim package
  • Optional high-fidelity audio system
  • On sale in summer of 2013
The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG 4Matic models are equipped with
  • AMG instrumentation,
  • including a 200-mph speedometer,
  • IWC-style analog clock in the dashboard,
  • brushed stainless steel pedals with black rubber studs, and backlit AMG door sill plates.
  • The sedans also have a power rear-window blind.

A variety of interior color and trim combinations are offered,
  • but S-Model variants with a black interior are equipped with silver seat belts and silver contrast stitching throughout the cabin.
  • All E63 AMG S-Model 4Matic versions are equipped with a leather-wrapped steering wheel that is flat on the top and on the bottom and which offers Alcantara grip areas.
Options offered for the new 2014 E63 AMG 4Matic models include
  • an AMG Carbon Fiber Styling package,
  • AMG carbon fiber engine cover, and upgraded carbon fiber and piano lacquer interior trim.
  • An AMG Night package with lots of high-gloss black exterior trim is also available, along with unique Designo styling elements.
  • A Bang & Olufsen BeoSound high-fidelity surround-sound audio system is also optional for this model.
The new E63 AMG S-Model 4Matic Sedan and Wagon variants make more horsepower and torque, and add a standard limited-slip rear differential.


According to Mercedes, the E63 AMG 4Matic Sedan accelerates to 60 mph in 3.6 seconds and achieves a governed top speed of 155 mph. The S-Model version shaves a tenth of a second off the acceleration time in sedan format, and matches it as a station wagon. Both of the S-Model variants can attain a claimed top speed of 186 mph

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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOtherEric
Differences are explained here:

http://bit.ly/Y75SqN
Lmao!!
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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If all you get is more hp, a slightly different steering wheel, contrasted stitching on black interior only, and a limited slip, I will pass on the S version if it comes at 12K or more.
$8K was already steep but at least you got a few more goodies like red calipers and carbon fiber engine cover.
One would be better off buying the LSD as a separate if you want to stay OEM and then get it tuned.
There is still a bit of mystery on whether the suspension has been fine tuned. If so, what is MB doing??
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by emericr
If all you get is more hp, a slightly different steering wheel, contrasted stitching on black interior only, and a limited slip, I will pass on the S version if it comes at 12K or more.
$8K was already steep but at least you got a few more goodies like red calipers and carbon fiber engine cover.
One would be better off buying the LSD as a separate if you want to stay OEM and then get it tuned.
There is still a bit of mystery on whether the suspension has been fine tuned. If so, what is MB doing??
Hey, don't forget about the AMG-embossed headrests, the chrome on the side-skirts and rear bumper, the illuminated door sills, and the red brake calipers. Surely that's worth several thousand dollars, no?

If you add up the main S features (LSD, performance pkg, and illuminated sills) you get like $9,500. IMHO that other cosmetic junk isn't really worth anything, but we'll see what they want for it. Paying several thousand just for embossed headrests, some ugly chrome, contrast stitching, red calipers, and an S badge would be kind of insulting.

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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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So at what price would the S model start at??
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gsc
So at what price would the S model start at??
Did you bother to read the thread?
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOtherEric
Did you bother to read the thread?

Did not see any firm numbers.

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Originally Posted by Gsc
Did not see any firm numbers.
Nope, just Eric being an a$$ expecting everyone to read the whole internet before asking a dedicated e63 forum

Pricing hasn't been released yet. Figure a healthy amount more than the last model! The S will be the fastest 4 door you can buy, and MB won't be giving it away.
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jonkean
LSD is standard on all American bound 2014 E63's
That doesn't seem to be true according to MB. There's a non-S 4Matic, which apparently doesn't have LSD. Did they change their mind?
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Chocofishez
Nope, just Eric being an a$$ expecting everyone to read the whole internet before asking a dedicated e63 forum

I figured that out....

Pricing hasn't been released yet. Figure a healthy amount more than the last model! The S will be the fastest 4 door you can buy, and MB won't be giving it away.
I would say the S will be in the 115k+ area, if not higher.

May have to cop the M5 instead..
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I forgot about the sills but I think it is a less than 1K option.
The performance package was $4K for my C63 in 09 and it included the Suede steering wheel; arguably better Composite brakes; Rear differential lock; and track Calibrated Suspension System.
The PP package at $7K on the E/CLS is already priced way too high for what you get.
Add the LSD and sills, deduct the CF and you are around $9K. A package should be cheaper than the sums of the options so it should be priced at like $8K. I know it is wishful thinking and MB will play a trick on us and price it high.
Add the 4WD system for about 3K and it adds up to about $11K. Ouch...






Originally Posted by TheOtherEric
Hey, don't forget about the AMG-embossed headrests, the chrome on the side-skirts and rear bumper, the illuminated door sills, and the red brake calipers. Surely that's worth several thousand dollars, no?

If you add up the main S features (LSD, performance pkg, and illuminated sills) you get like $9,500. IMHO that other cosmetic junk isn't really worth anything, but we'll see what they want for it. Paying several thousand just for embossed headrests, some ugly chrome, contrast stitching, red calipers, and an S badge would be kind of insulting.

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A current CLS with PP, designo paint, and other options already approach the $115K. I would be happy if it stays there but it won't

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I would say the S will be in the 115k+ area, if not higher.

May have to cop the M5 instead..
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The reason I don't think they'll get too crazy on the S pricing is because of the Germany pricing listed here:
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/autos/m...-need-to-know/

If that's correct, there's a 10.6% kicker for the S, so if the base 4Matic is $95k, then the S would be around $10k higher. That seems reasonable enough, but my gut says it's a little optimistic. We'll see.
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jonkean
LSD is standard on all American bound 2014 E63's

Don't think so

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/benz/i...l-2014_E63_AMG

"S" will come with LSD..."S" is like the new performance pack

Optional "S-Model" variant including power increase and limited-slip differential, plus exclusive 10-spoke wheels and design elements

For those seeking an even higher degree of exhilaration and exclusivity, AMG has developed an all-new "S-Model" variant in Sedan and Wagon form. In the performance department, an elevated power curve with additional horsepower, a boost in top speed and a zero-to-sixty time unmatched by virtually any other car on the road are accompanied by a limited-slip rear differential for more grip during acceleration. On the style front,

S-Model vehicles receive distinctive exterior design features like front apron trim in high-gloss black, 10-spoke AMG Matte Titanium Grey wheels, red brake calipers and "S" trunk badging. Inside, details including AMG-embossed front head restraints, contrast stitching and Alcantara® wrapped steering-wheel grips put S-Model vehicles in a handcrafted league all their own.
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