Corporate Vehicle
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Corporate Vehicle
I am looking to get a CPO 2012 E63, found one with low miles that was never titled and the sales man claims it was a MB USA corporate or executive vehicle. The car is in great shape cosmetically, only some minor scrapping under the front bumper and one minor blemish on the passenger door trim.
As far as options, it has performance package and driver assist amongst other, original MSRP was $106K.
Should I make an offer or run away considering the prior owner or lack thereof.
TIA
--Sebis
As far as options, it has performance package and driver assist amongst other, original MSRP was $106K.
Should I make an offer or run away considering the prior owner or lack thereof.
TIA
--Sebis
Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 139
Likes: 3
GL, E63
I am looking to get a CPO 2012 E63, found one with low miles that was never titled and the sales man claims it was a MB USA corporate or executive vehicle. The car is in great shape cosmetically, only some minor scrapping under the front bumper and one minor blemish on the passenger door trim.
As far as options, it has performance package and driver assist amongst other, original MSRP was $106K.
Should I make an offer or run away considering the prior owner or lack thereof.
TIA
--Sebis
As far as options, it has performance package and driver assist amongst other, original MSRP was $106K.
Should I make an offer or run away considering the prior owner or lack thereof.
TIA
--Sebis
I would not buy a demo AMG. Could be used in those "tracking events"
I guess it should be around the 60-70 range.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,279
Likes: 58
From: OC
i drive them all, fast and hard
my understanding of executive cars , that they arent considered CPO, but sold as new.
As you said its never titled so they dont give u the CPO extra yr warrenty.
how many miles on it?
i dont think it would be a tracked academy car, i heard all those cars go back to germany for engine research....who knows
As you said its never titled so they dont give u the CPO extra yr warrenty.
how many miles on it?
i dont think it would be a tracked academy car, i heard all those cars go back to germany for engine research....who knows
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
my understanding of executive cars , that they arent considered CPO, but sold as new.
As you said its never titled so they dont give u the CPO extra yr warrenty.
how many miles on it?
i dont think it would be a tracked academy car, i heard all those cars go back to germany for engine research....who knows
As you said its never titled so they dont give u the CPO extra yr warrenty.
how many miles on it?
i dont think it would be a tracked academy car, i heard all those cars go back to germany for engine research....who knows
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,279
Likes: 58
From: OC
i drive them all, fast and hard
seems reasonable
when do they start the warrenty, the day you buy it?? 4 yrs or 5?
i know with cpo they add one year from the day it was first sold... make sure u get as many as u can i guess
when do they start the warrenty, the day you buy it?? 4 yrs or 5?
i know with cpo they add one year from the day it was first sold... make sure u get as many as u can i guess
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
On top of it they are asking 80K for a 2012 with 10K miles, I wish I could see some current Mainhem data. For this money I would spend a little more and get the 2014 facelift in December when dealers are looking to bust their end of year sales.
Thoughts?
Trending Topics
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Silver with black leather, performance package, driver assist, 19" AMG forged wheels, carbon fiber interior trim, carbon fiber trunk lip, parktronic.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,462
Likes: 54
FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Are they asking more for a car with more miles (80K for 10K miles)?--That is strange. From what I have come across, any cars that were never titled would be considered new regardless of the number of miles. But from a buyer's perspective, cars with plenty of miles should not be labeled new. But who cares if the dealer is going to have it CPO'ed, which is more appropriate for this corporate car than calling it new.
You might want to drive it down somewhat from the 79K. Also have them throw in the extended warranty and the repair as vdub had mentioned. IMO, the deal sounds pretty good especially if you can get all that and plan to use the full 7yrs/135K miles of it and trade it in at the end.
You might want to drive it down somewhat from the 79K. Also have them throw in the extended warranty and the repair as vdub had mentioned. IMO, the deal sounds pretty good especially if you can get all that and plan to use the full 7yrs/135K miles of it and trade it in at the end.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,279
Likes: 58
From: OC
i drive them all, fast and hard
hmmm seems the same as my car...except i have the 10 spokes wheels
you should check if it was dealer certified or actually mercedes certified...there is actually a difference..
where are u located/dealer?
you should check if it was dealer certified or actually mercedes certified...there is actually a difference..
where are u located/dealer?
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,462
Likes: 54
FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Yes, major difference. You wouldn't be able to get factory ELW unless it is CPO'ed by MB dealer. If it is not MB CPO'ed, I wouldn't want to keep it beyond the 4-years factory warranty period because there is no way to tell how much abuse this car has gotten especially with the chin all scratched up.
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Yes, major difference. You wouldn't be able to get factory ELW unless it is CPO'ed by MB dealer. If it is not MB CPO'ed, I wouldn't want to keep it beyond the 4-years factory warranty period because there is no way to tell how much abuse this car has gotten especially with the chin all scratched up.
Edit: this is a test car/mule, do not buy it, here is the VIN: WDDHF7EB6CA473507
Last edited by sebis; Oct 2, 2013 at 10:18 PM. Reason: To add the VIN
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,279
Likes: 58
From: OC
i drive them all, fast and hard
to me....something just doesnt add up....i may be completely wrong, but like i said, my understanding that if they are callling it pre "owned" then it had to be titled.
i do know that when i was looking at CPO cars, that they would show me on the sticker when it was first purchased, because that was the first date that the 4 year warrenty would start. The cpo would get a fancy Mercedes cpo sticker on it and have a check list of everything that was done....tires changed, oil, etc etc....that they absolutely should be able to show you. And on top of that, they add one year to the warranty from that initial date of purchase.
If your car was never titled, they should start the date of warranty when you buy it...
if its the car in texas, the georgia dealer probably sold it to the texas dealer and then they CPOd it....so u should get a warranty till 2018
i do know that when i was looking at CPO cars, that they would show me on the sticker when it was first purchased, because that was the first date that the 4 year warrenty would start. The cpo would get a fancy Mercedes cpo sticker on it and have a check list of everything that was done....tires changed, oil, etc etc....that they absolutely should be able to show you. And on top of that, they add one year to the warranty from that initial date of purchase.
If your car was never titled, they should start the date of warranty when you buy it...
if its the car in texas, the georgia dealer probably sold it to the texas dealer and then they CPOd it....so u should get a warranty till 2018
Last edited by vdubpower; Sep 30, 2013 at 08:25 PM.
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Missouri
E63 AMG
Exactly 1 year ago, I got an "Executive" 2011 E63 AMG that was never titled. I got it for around $72k (considering my trade). They certified it (claimed it costs an extra $1200 to CPO it). I have a warranty until 2017 or 100,000 miles (whichever comes 1st). It had about 4,200 miles on it. This was the exact same car that sat in the showroom for months with a MSRP of $107,000. I can't guarantee it was wasn't "tracked" or used in AMG testing facility, but I believe the dealer wanted to get it off the showroom when the 2012's rolled in and someone used it for a few months until putting it back on the lot for sale with a deep discount.
This sounds similar to your situation, but with more miles. Because they claimed it was "new, never titled," they put new tires on and completely repainted the front bumper, got rid of any dings/dents, fixed a couple wheel rashes. Essentially making it brand new.
I would suggest offering $70,000 and go from there... and make sure they CPO it. It is possible to do, they just need to do it. When I went to dealer for Service A, I almost traded it in for a C63 507, but the new warranty would end at the same time as my CPO would (4 years/50k miles, or essentially 10/17). I love the E63, especially the 6.2L engine. Good luck with your decision.
This sounds similar to your situation, but with more miles. Because they claimed it was "new, never titled," they put new tires on and completely repainted the front bumper, got rid of any dings/dents, fixed a couple wheel rashes. Essentially making it brand new.
I would suggest offering $70,000 and go from there... and make sure they CPO it. It is possible to do, they just need to do it. When I went to dealer for Service A, I almost traded it in for a C63 507, but the new warranty would end at the same time as my CPO would (4 years/50k miles, or essentially 10/17). I love the E63, especially the 6.2L engine. Good luck with your decision.
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
to me....something just doesnt add up....i may be completely wrong, but like i said, my understanding that if they are callling it pre "owned" then it had to be titled.
i do know that when i was looking at CPO cars, that they would show me on the sticker when it was first purchased, because that was the first date that the 4 year warrenty would start. The cpo would get a fancy Mercedes cpo sticker on it and have a check list of everything that was done....tires changed, oil, etc etc....that they absolutely should be able to show you. And on top of that, they add one year to the warranty from that initial date of purchase.
If your car was never titled, they should start the date of warranty when you buy it...
if its the car in texas, the georgia dealer probably sold it to the texas dealer and then they CPOd it....so u should get a warranty till 2018
i do know that when i was looking at CPO cars, that they would show me on the sticker when it was first purchased, because that was the first date that the 4 year warrenty would start. The cpo would get a fancy Mercedes cpo sticker on it and have a check list of everything that was done....tires changed, oil, etc etc....that they absolutely should be able to show you. And on top of that, they add one year to the warranty from that initial date of purchase.
If your car was never titled, they should start the date of warranty when you buy it...
if its the car in texas, the georgia dealer probably sold it to the texas dealer and then they CPOd it....so u should get a warranty till 2018
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Exactly 1 year ago, I got an "Executive" 2011 E63 AMG that was never titled. I got it for around $72k (considering my trade). They certified it (claimed it costs an extra $1200 to CPO it). I have a warranty until 2017 or 100,000 miles (whichever comes 1st). It had about 4,200 miles on it. This was the exact same car that sat in the showroom for months with a MSRP of $107,000. I can't guarantee it was wasn't "tracked" or used in AMG testing facility, but I believe the dealer wanted to get it off the showroom when the 2012's rolled in and someone used it for a few months until putting it back on the lot for sale with a deep discount.
This sounds similar to your situation, but with more miles. Because they claimed it was "new, never titled," they put new tires on and completely repainted the front bumper, got rid of any dings/dents, fixed a couple wheel rashes. Essentially making it brand new.
I would suggest offering $70,000 and go from there... and make sure they CPO it. It is possible to do, they just need to do it. When I went to dealer for Service A, I almost traded it in for a C63 507, but the new warranty would end at the same time as my CPO would (4 years/50k miles, or essentially 10/17). I love the E63, especially the 6.2L engine. Good luck with your decision.
This sounds similar to your situation, but with more miles. Because they claimed it was "new, never titled," they put new tires on and completely repainted the front bumper, got rid of any dings/dents, fixed a couple wheel rashes. Essentially making it brand new.
I would suggest offering $70,000 and go from there... and make sure they CPO it. It is possible to do, they just need to do it. When I went to dealer for Service A, I almost traded it in for a C63 507, but the new warranty would end at the same time as my CPO would (4 years/50k miles, or essentially 10/17). I love the E63, especially the 6.2L engine. Good luck with your decision.
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
to me....something just doesnt add up....i may be completely wrong, but like i said, my understanding that if they are callling it pre "owned" then it had to be titled.
i do know that when i was looking at CPO cars, that they would show me on the sticker when it was first purchased, because that was the first date that the 4 year warrenty would start. The cpo would get a fancy Mercedes cpo sticker on it and have a check list of everything that was done....tires changed, oil, etc etc....that they absolutely should be able to show you. And on top of that, they add one year to the warranty from that initial date of purchase.
If your car was never titled, they should start the date of warranty when you buy it...
if its the car in texas, the georgia dealer probably sold it to the texas dealer and then they CPOd it....so u should get a warranty till 2018
i do know that when i was looking at CPO cars, that they would show me on the sticker when it was first purchased, because that was the first date that the 4 year warrenty would start. The cpo would get a fancy Mercedes cpo sticker on it and have a check list of everything that was done....tires changed, oil, etc etc....that they absolutely should be able to show you. And on top of that, they add one year to the warranty from that initial date of purchase.
If your car was never titled, they should start the date of warranty when you buy it...
if its the car in texas, the georgia dealer probably sold it to the texas dealer and then they CPOd it....so u should get a warranty till 2018
Title issued or updated
Dealer took title of this vehicle
while it was in inventory
so to my mind this is the date that counts for warranty unless Mercedes has some strange rule that when cars are sold amongst dealers it goes by the date of production.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,279
Likes: 58
From: OC
i drive them all, fast and hard
if it is the houston car we are talking about, then find out how it went from georgia, to texas to riverside california, and back to texas.....
at the end of the day, in all likely hood the car is top class.... go in with a low offer work from there....silver/black, CF/pp .....cant go wrong there
at the end of the day, in all likely hood the car is top class.... go in with a low offer work from there....silver/black, CF/pp .....cant go wrong there
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
if it is the houston car we are talking about, then find out how it went from georgia, to texas to riverside california, and back to texas.....
at the end of the day, in all likely hood the car is top class.... go in with a low offer work from there....silver/black, CF/pp .....cant go wrong there
at the end of the day, in all likely hood the car is top class.... go in with a low offer work from there....silver/black, CF/pp .....cant go wrong there
003 Factory code - Production test manually
103 PT3 - Production Trial 3
53T Factory code pre-production
What in the world does this mean, anybody have seen this before?
--Sebis
