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'12 Headlight haze? Anyone else?

Old Feb 5, 2015 | 03:17 PM
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For some reason the sealed backing that the headlights originally came with trapped moisture inside the lights, where that moisture would evaporate and condense. When it condensed on the spot where the light was later extremely hot, the "boiling" left residue behind. This could have been cleaned, but access to that specific part of the relatively sealed unit was not something they could ask a dealer to do.

The initial solution was to put much more permeable rear covers on the lights, allowing the moisture to escape after going through one heat cycle. If the "haze" didnt clear up pretty quickly (and I dont think it ever did... I cant imagine how.) they would replace the whole unit, this time with an assembly that had the permeable back plate on it so that it wouldn't haze up the new unit.
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 08:49 PM
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its amazing how it was perfectly identical on all cars that it happened to
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 08:33 PM
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I just had mine replaced on 1/14 and they now have the V shape again. I am thinking they did not replace them. The work order shows they did. The V is only visable when the lights are on.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 01:09 AM
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My 2012 E63 is in storage for the winter so I'm not positive that I have the "V" in my lens but after looking at this video I'm pretty sure I have it also. Here is a video of a brand new 2012 E63 and if you look at the 3:45 mark of this video you can clearly see the "V" on the headlight lens.

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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 04:53 PM
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This is interesting and concerning. Time to Lemon the car
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 05:10 PM
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@ProfesorX.....I don't think the video shows the V. It looks more like reflections to me. Plus, it doesn't make any sense that it would be on a brand new car.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 05:11 PM
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The video clearly shows the v as described

It's exactly as it looks on my car
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 05:13 PM
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So, what are you saying, that it's coming from the factory this way? How is that possible?

You must be an imposter, as the REAL vdubpower has this sig :

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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 06:57 PM
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Need some helps from you peeps...so I got my new headlights last week (replaced due to V Haze) and I feel like my headlights are aimed way too low....They go right and left around curves but when I turn them on I don't see them moving up and down in essence self-leveling. Can you guys tell me if your headlights adjust when you turn them on? Meaning do you see the beam go up and down and settle at the right height?
Thank you and sorry or the hijacking!!!
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 07:12 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
ok so a car with 50 miles has the haze, as per the video,
which is crazy as it is a new car

ive wondered around my local dealership and seen the haze with xenon and non xenon cars alike

i dont when my haze started, but i only noticed it when i saw a thread here, but it may have been there

i have new lights on order, apparrently, but yeah im concerned that it will return and that they may not be aligned right either....
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 07:20 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
heres 2 pics of my car from day one, cant see it there

maybe.....
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 07:29 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
here is a few after 1 yr of ownership

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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 11:39 PM
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Ok, I don't see the "V" in any of those pics....
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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 12:00 AM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
me neither, so mine started atleast after 1 yr of ownership

so i noticed mine first in 12/2013 in this thread, but it was likely there before

those pics with the front spoilers was from march 2013, so between that time it occurred

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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 12:49 AM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
dealer called , parts are in, gonna go in monday...im honestly more nervous about them re aligning the lights and putting the bumper back
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
dealer called , parts are in, gonna go in monday...im honestly more nervous about them re aligning the lights and putting the bumper back
Good luck!!!!
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 10:30 AM
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I went to look at my 2012 last night in storage.... I couldn't see the V until I turned on my headlights. So I will changing mine out on my next service call also. I'm glad this post popped up before my warranty expired so I appreciate the information from you guys.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 10:37 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
wow, so i just go back home with my "new" headlights,
they looked fine at the dealership in day time, but have alook at these night pics i just took











i see V.........wtf....
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:04 PM
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So do I, now that's weird !!
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:08 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
did they lie to me and just some how clean the inside of my original lens?? nooo...maybe?? damn

or is the new old stock also just bad...

i dont even know if i should show my service advisor at this point......
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:13 PM
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How can new old stock be bad if the V is caused by condensation of moisture on the lens being heated up by the bulb(s)? Makes no sense.

Personally, I would take the car back to the SA.

BTW, your car , being 3 yrs old, would certainly have some mild pitting in the lens from gravel, sand, etc.
Do you see any of that on the lenses now ?

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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:30 PM
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nope mine wouldnt have any because its been clear bra'd since day one, i peeled the clearbra off day before i took it in, they were pristine
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:32 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
who the hell knows how the v is formed...i dont think anyone knows exactly
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:46 PM
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....so the mystery continues. Did they at least aim the lights properly. I know you had voiced some concern about that in a previous post.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:51 PM
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Should I even bother going to another dealer to try to get the lights replaced? If they just going to do it again, it seems not worth it.
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