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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 08:21 PM
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My Issues with Michelin PSS

So i primarily drive my car is S+ with esp completely off nowadays....and I ve noticeds its still pretty hard to get the car to drift with this tires...the grip is insane.....they have 7000 miles on them so far and tread is pretty is good still

might have to buy some cheapies just to mess around
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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 08:56 PM
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First time I've seen someone complain of too much grip haha. That said, while Michelin PSS are great, they're still no competition tires (in terms of grip).

Apply more throttle and play around with your initial steering angle. You should have no trouble drifting.

And not to be Debbie Downer but even if you're all by your lonesome, public roadways are the last place you want to drift. The surface is too unpredictable and there are too many other obstacles/variables.

Now, if you were talking about the track, try what I said above my public service announcement.
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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 09:24 PM
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Ya the Michelin PSS is a no joke tire

Now try and break traction with the Toyo R888 that ll be fun lmao
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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 10:15 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
no worries, u wont see me doing dumb things in public areas....they are great tires now doubt

if the rears can get 18000 like my pzeros did ill be even happier
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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 10:16 PM
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I nearly went with them but really wanted to keep the stock sizing so I went with the Bridgestone Pole Positions and have been very happy with them. They break loose very little even with traction control off and a full throttle start, hook up much better than the stock conti's. I've got around 7500 miles on them and they still look good, I was nervous about fast wear from the reports I've read. But I do think I will get at least 15K miles out of them which is not bad. I had the PSS on a Pontiac G8GT I had and really like those tires, they are pretty awesome and smooth driving too.
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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 10:16 PM
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no worries, u wont see me doing dumb things in public areas....they are great tires now doubt

if the rears can get 18000 like my pzeros did ill be even happier
you should with no problems
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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 11:55 PM
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18k miles in a RWD e63? No way. I got 15k kms on two sets (275s) on my C63... Can't see it with a heavier car with more power... Especially if the owner likes to get the tail out!

I have 295s on the back of my S... Power goes down all the time. Such a great daily driver and with PSS tires you're pretty much the king of the road everywhere. Pretty sure I'm gonna pile the miles on this one and get another.
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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 11:58 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
the p0s were fine....everyone rips them but they were good to me...front still have plenty of life, have them stored in the garage.

rears were all the way down, i got every penny out of them
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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 11:59 PM
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I'm running PSS right now on my HRE 20' I don't see the grip your talking about the car lose traction at 50mph. I'm going with 315/30/20 Toyo R888 when my PSS are done
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Old Jul 31, 2014 | 01:00 AM
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I recently picked up the Michelin PS A/S 3's and they're pretty awesome all around. I didn't want to get strictly summer tires such as the PSS as I'm in Chicago and although in the winter I check the weather for snow before I hit the road for work, I've gotten caught in some snow storms fast before I can make it home to swap for the Frontier 4x4. So it make sense for me to have an All Season and it was down to this the A/S 3's or the Conti DWS's. It was a tough call because before I picked up the E63 I had an LS460 and had DWS's on there and they were phenomenal. But research and a $70 rebate made the decision easier for putting on the A/S 3's and I'm thrilled. I plan on doing at least one track day with her this summer so I'll report how these tires handled.
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Old Jul 31, 2014 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Faris63
I'm running PSS right now on my HRE 20' I don't see the grip your talking about the car lose traction at 50mph. I'm going with 315/30/20 Toyo R888 when my PSS are done
thats because your car has like 1200hp, with every weistec renntech kleeman mod available
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Old Jul 31, 2014 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
thats because your car has like 1200hp, with every weistec renntech kleeman mod available
Lol
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Old Jul 31, 2014 | 03:16 AM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
eid mubarak bro,... u back here or in uae
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Old Jul 31, 2014 | 06:57 AM
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eid mubarak bro,... u back here or in uae
Eid Mubarak to you. I'm still in the UAE not sure if I'll back
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
So i primarily drive my car is S+ with esp completely off nowadays...
Don't tell ace10, you'll be considered a F1 wannabe.

On the topic of PSS, are you running OEM wheels or? What size tires?
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 01:58 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
i drive like alonso

stock rims, only change was 295 in rear

there was a touch of sarcasm in my post, the tires are great
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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I want to get stickier tires than the stock Conti's but I'm afraid of dropping down in speed rating. I'm having a stage 3 Weistec supercharger installed on top of Renntech R4 stuff - so I need good grip but I'd also like a set of tires that are safe at high speeds. My local track has a "Street Racing Made Safe" program where races start from a roll anywhere between 20 and 60mph so speeds can get pretty crazy when all is said and done.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated...
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I want to get stickier tires than the stock Conti's but I'm afraid of dropping down in speed rating. I'm having a stage 3 Weistec supercharger installed on top of Renntech R4 stuff - so I need good grip but I'd also like a set of tires that are safe at high speeds. My local track has a "Street Racing Made Safe" program where races start from a roll anywhere between 20 and 60mph so speeds can get pretty crazy when all is said and done.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated...
Toyo R888
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 01:57 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
r u driving over 186mph often
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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 06:14 PM
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The Toyo R888's look great but this IS a daily driven car and from reviews I hear they may not be the best choice for that reason...

I'm probably never going to go over 186mph...

Are THESE stickier than the stock Continentals?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 08:49 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
then get the pss, good for road and track
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:33 AM
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I had a set of R888's a couple of years ago when I was tracking the Saab regularly. It is a great track tire but really noisy on the public roads. I was changing tires at the track but once it started raining so I drove back 4h with the R888 and it was really anoying.


PSS I had them on my C63 and they are by far better than OEM Contis... (I had Yoko Advans as OEM but similar to Contis.)


If you plan to track once in a while the PSS are perfect. If you track often the it might be a good idea to get dedicated set of track tires and the R888 would be my choice.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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Thanks, guys. My car isn't intended for frequent track visits. I simply want a lot of power if and when I need it. And for bragging rights. :p If I want to say my car has almost 800hp, it needs to be true. I don't want to hear ANYTHING from Dodge Hellcats. :o
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
i drive like alonso

stock rims, only change was 295 in rear

there was a touch of sarcasm in my post, the tires are great
Did you do anything with the offsets of the wheels? Or do the 295s just fit the stock 19 inch wheels with no issues? Would love to get PSS. Just need to know what size fits.
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i drive them all, fast and hard
they fit fine....they just look a little chubby, but otherwise no issues at all
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