Do the Carbon Ceramic Brakes Squeak or Not
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Do the Carbon Ceramic Brakes Squeak or Not
I am wondering from those of you who have the carbon ceramic brakes (CCB) on the cars do the brakes squeak when they're cold or not? Also I've heard some people say that those brakes can be grabby on initial application and not as smooth as the steel ones. CCB owners, is it true or not?
From a strictly aesthetic point, I think their gold/orange color will work better with the lunar blue exterior of my incoming car then the standard red caliper color. And I like the idea of much less brake dust and dramatically longer brake life. To me, however, squealing brakes is a deal killer
I've heard different things from different people. Wouldn't mind hearing from everyone who has them about the above and their experience with the CCB.
To me the possibility of squeaking, and not the cost, was the thing to cause me not to order them. But now I'm considering adding them to the order anyway.
From a strictly aesthetic point, I think their gold/orange color will work better with the lunar blue exterior of my incoming car then the standard red caliper color. And I like the idea of much less brake dust and dramatically longer brake life. To me, however, squealing brakes is a deal killer
I've heard different things from different people. Wouldn't mind hearing from everyone who has them about the above and their experience with the CCB.
To me the possibility of squeaking, and not the cost, was the thing to cause me not to order them. But now I'm considering adding them to the order anyway.
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Yup! They squeak under light braking particularly when cold. A couple of hard brakings to get them hot will resolve the issue for a couple of days but it will come back.
If you dont want squeaking, dont get them...
If you dont want squeaking, dont get them...
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My regular steel brakes squeak like a motherf^&*er. Under all temperatures and conditions.
Possibly the most annoying thing about driving the car.
So going with the regular brakes certainly doesnt mean you'll avoid squeaking.
Possibly the most annoying thing about driving the car.
So going with the regular brakes certainly doesnt mean you'll avoid squeaking.
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I'm on my 8th car with CCBs and I never had any squeaking problems, ever.
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Just what I was afraid of. Some people say they squeak and some say they don't. Squeaking won't work on my homefront LOL.
I've heard of bedding steel brakes to clean off the gunk. Do you have to bed carbon ceramic brakes as well? And will that prevent them from squeaking?
To those who reported squeaking on their E63 carbon ceramic brakes are they bedding them?
I've heard of bedding steel brakes to clean off the gunk. Do you have to bed carbon ceramic brakes as well? And will that prevent them from squeaking?
To those who reported squeaking on their E63 carbon ceramic brakes are they bedding them?
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Mine are ceramics, had the car since Oct. 2013 and did 8700 miles till date and they dont squeak. however, when the car was new they did squeak after hard breaking only. but they never squeaked after about 1800miles. Maybe the climate here in Dubai helps. temps range from 65F in winter and 118F in summer.
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Mine are ceramics, had the car since Oct. 2013 and did 8700 miles till date and they dont squeak. however, when the car was new they did squeak after hard breaking only. but they never squeaked after about 1800miles. Maybe the climate here in Dubai helps. temps range from 65F in winter and 118F in summer.
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Carbon Ceramic Brake.
They shouldn't squeak if they've been "bedded in" properly. I've got them on another car and never heard a peep. I don't know what the procedure is for the AMG models that have them but it was a very exciting experience. Fifty hard stops from 100+ mph!
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Unless you have extended uninterrupted/unimpeded driving (which really never happens), your brakes will reach ~operating temperature quite quickly. Regardless of ambient air temperatures. We're talking about very serious friction.
Virtually any brake system will squeal if you a)don't bed the pads in properly when they are installed, or b)switch to an incompatible brake pad material without either refinishing or replacing the rotors, or c) use brake pads which are ill-suited to your usage, most commonly those with far too high operating temperature range, or d) continually use a very light foot on the brake pedal.
a), b) and c) are mistakes.
d) is an operator issue, and can often be rectified by rebedding the brakes when they begin to squeal.
If you have high-performance (non track) brake pads, and don't drive the car hard frequently, then you should expect to have brake system noise.
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Virtually any brake system will squeal if you a)don't bed the pads in properly when they are installed, or b)switch to an incompatible brake pad material without either refinishing or replacing the rotors, or c) use brake pads which are ill-suited to your usage, most commonly those with far too high operating temperature range, or d) continually use a very light foot on the brake pedal.
a), b) and c) are mistakes.
d) is an operator issue, and can often be rectified by rebedding the brakes when they begin to squeal.
If you have high-performance (non track) brake pads, and don't drive the car hard frequently, then you should expect to have brake system noise.
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Unless you have extended uninterrupted/unimpeded driving (which really never happens), your brakes will reach ~operating temperature quite quickly. Regardless of ambient air temperatures. We're talking about very serious friction.
Virtually any brake system will squeal if you a)don't bed the pads in properly when they are installed, or b)switch to an incompatible brake pad material without either refinishing or replacing the rotors, or c) use brake pads which are ill-suited to your usage, most commonly those with far too high operating temperature range, or d) continually use a very light foot on the brake pedal.
a), b) and c) are mistakes.
d) is an operator issue, and can often be rectified by rebedding the brakes when they begin to squeal.
If you have high-performance (non track) brake pads, and don't drive the car hard frequently, then you should expect to have brake system noise.
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Virtually any brake system will squeal if you a)don't bed the pads in properly when they are installed, or b)switch to an incompatible brake pad material without either refinishing or replacing the rotors, or c) use brake pads which are ill-suited to your usage, most commonly those with far too high operating temperature range, or d) continually use a very light foot on the brake pedal.
a), b) and c) are mistakes.
d) is an operator issue, and can often be rectified by rebedding the brakes when they begin to squeal.
If you have high-performance (non track) brake pads, and don't drive the car hard frequently, then you should expect to have brake system noise.
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Does the CCB come with different calipers or brake lines? If not, what the rotor is made out of will make no difference for "spongy" brake feel.
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'14 E63S, '13 G550, '06 E320 cdi, and a bunch of other stuff.
I Agree.
A person *could* jump into any car and find a "spongy" pedal feel. It's a question of maintenance, rather than hardware.
Boiled brake fluid, air in the lines, etc....
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That SLS I talked about had less than 5k km on the odometer and its was never tracked or driven hard. It was the first SLS I drove
in regards to CCBs, the callipers and rotors are bigger and the pads are ceramic, not sure if the line material is different.
in regards to CCBs, the callipers and rotors are bigger and the pads are ceramic, not sure if the line material is different.
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Not sure about MB Ceramic brakes or if its a cold weather issue but i know someone who had a Bentley GT with them and they squeaked a lot. Some ppl say they squeak some say they dont....for the amount of money they are there should be not question about it if they squeak. They do look go though!
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Not sure about MB Ceramic brakes or if its a cold weather issue but i know someone who had a Bentley GT with them and they squeaked a lot. Some ppl say they squeak some say they dont....for the amount of money they are there should be not question about it if they squeak. They do look go though!
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they are great, I like them a lot. not sure if I still have the car by the time I need to replace the rotors, does any one know how much they cost?
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No squeaks here but it may be too early to tell. California is still extremely warm day and night and I've only had the vehicle for 1 month. Maybe towards winter when the mornings drop down to the 50's I will hear squeaks then?
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