Went in for oil change, came out with new motor... W157
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Went in for oil change, came out with new motor... W157
Took my E63 in for oil service and a little rattle from the engine compartment back in September.
Long story short, I still don't have it back. Yup 5 months. They determined there was some sort of engine failure due to the first owner not allowing motor to warm up (crankshaft bent). I let my car run for minimum 5 mins before moving it, and I only had this car for a few weeks.
I really miss the power, since I've been driving a vast errday of loaners, E250 blue, C250 Coupe, GLK, and most recently a 2015 C300.
Here is a pic of the motor being reassembled at Mercedes Maple after being rebuilt at the AMG facility here in Woodbridge.
Long story short, I still don't have it back. Yup 5 months. They determined there was some sort of engine failure due to the first owner not allowing motor to warm up (crankshaft bent). I let my car run for minimum 5 mins before moving it, and I only had this car for a few weeks.
I really miss the power, since I've been driving a vast errday of loaners, E250 blue, C250 Coupe, GLK, and most recently a 2015 C300.
Here is a pic of the motor being reassembled at Mercedes Maple after being rebuilt at the AMG facility here in Woodbridge.
Last edited by AHI; Mar 8, 2015 at 05:53 PM.
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I never believed that it was a myth. Ive always warmed my cars up for at least 5 mins. I know people that don't, and are hard on their cars even in the first 10 mins of a drive. This is not good for cold engine parts under load, and I see the types of problems and noises they encounter.
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Yes I'm very happy. And yes under warranty. It was at 20,000 miles.
I never believed that it was a myth. Ive always warmed my cars up for at least 5 mins. I know people that don't, and are hard on their cars even in the first 10 mins of a drive. This is not good for cold engine parts under load, and I see the types of problems and noises they encounter.
I never believed that it was a myth. Ive always warmed my cars up for at least 5 mins. I know people that don't, and are hard on their cars even in the first 10 mins of a drive. This is not good for cold engine parts under load, and I see the types of problems and noises they encounter.
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Took my E63 in for oil service and a little rattle from the engine compartment back in September.
Long story short, I still don't have it back. Yup 5 months. They determined there was some sort of engine failure due to the first owner not allowing motor to warm up (crankshaft bent). I let my car run for minimum 5 mins before moving it, and I only had this car for a few weeks.
I really miss the power, since I've been driving a vast errday of loaners, E250 blue, C250 Coupe, GLK, and most recently a 2015 C300.
Here is a pic of the motor being reassembled at Mercedes Maple after being rebuilt at the AMG facility here in Woodbridge.
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Long story short, I still don't have it back. Yup 5 months. They determined there was some sort of engine failure due to the first owner not allowing motor to warm up (crankshaft bent). I let my car run for minimum 5 mins before moving it, and I only had this car for a few weeks.
I really miss the power, since I've been driving a vast errday of loaners, E250 blue, C250 Coupe, GLK, and most recently a 2015 C300.
Here is a pic of the motor being reassembled at Mercedes Maple after being rebuilt at the AMG facility here in Woodbridge.
Attachment 305288
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Letting the car warm up for five minutes is prohibitive to normal driving routines, that is an absurdly long time for me to wait before I can even move my car I let the car warm up for about a minute and then back out and just go easy on it for the first few miles and wait for to warm up
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I don't warm up above 32 F; warm up 30 secs when it's below 0 F and 32 F; 1-2 mins for below 0 F. Then just get it on the road and go easy until the oil temp has reached the optimal temp. It warms up faster when you drive it than letting it sits there.
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Letting the car warm up for five minutes is prohibitive to normal driving routines, that is an absurdly long time for me to wait before I can even move my car I let the car warm up for about a minute and then back out and just go easy on it for the first few miles and wait for to warm up
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The reason you should warm up the car is because the engine doesn't just use one metal, it uses different metals which warm up and expand and contract at different temperatures. It DOES wear the motor when you redline in on a cold night after just starting it. Especially something with so much torque. It doesn't need to be a full 5 mins, 2-3 is still adequate. You can still put it in drive and move, just don't rev it alot, keep it under 2500rpms for the first 10 mins of driving. We're talking about bat-out-of-hell driving while it's still extremely cold. You can drive while cold but drive like a grandma.
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This is what I've been told by numerous engine rebuilders. And it's what I've believed as well.
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Seems like a lot of miscommunication here, sitting at idle while the car warms up is generally not recommended (but isn't a bad idea in very cold climates). You should absolutely drive the car moderately (stay out of high RPMs and don't floor the throttle) until the oil temp is close to operating temperature. The time a vehicle takes to get its coolant and oil to operating temp can vary wildly depending on the motor and cooling configuration, to give you an idea I used to have a BMW 335is which would get me all the way to work (12 miles) in the morning while the oil temp was still in the cold zone but my M3 is warm before I even make it to the on ramp of the freeway!
Sitting at idle for too long isn't great for the motor because you're spending too much time with the oil way below normal operating temp when it is too thick to properly lubricate the moving parts of the engine. Remember that too much of a good thing is just as bad as too little! The best thing to do is to start the car, wait a few seconds and then start driving. Just don't get in the car and plant the throttle up to 6,000rpm in the first minute of driving and you'll be fine.
Sitting at idle for too long isn't great for the motor because you're spending too much time with the oil way below normal operating temp when it is too thick to properly lubricate the moving parts of the engine. Remember that too much of a good thing is just as bad as too little! The best thing to do is to start the car, wait a few seconds and then start driving. Just don't get in the car and plant the throttle up to 6,000rpm in the first minute of driving and you'll be fine.
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Thanks AG for the info.
I got my car back tonight. I was going through some serious boost withdrawls.
I've decided not to ask for compensation. I've instead asked for my warranty to be extended for a full year, and to cover my next 5 services. My dealership is amazing, my service guys are awesome. I don't need money for free. I had a loaner at all times, and my car didn't have to go through the winter, and I saved it about 7,000 miles.
I got my car back tonight. I was going through some serious boost withdrawls.
I've decided not to ask for compensation. I've instead asked for my warranty to be extended for a full year, and to cover my next 5 services. My dealership is amazing, my service guys are awesome. I don't need money for free. I had a loaner at all times, and my car didn't have to go through the winter, and I saved it about 7,000 miles.
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Extension is quite fair.
Thanks AG for the info.
I got my car back tonight. I was going through some serious boost withdrawls.
I've decided not to ask for compensation. I've instead asked for my warranty to be extended for a full year, and to cover my next 5 services. My dealership is amazing, my service guys are awesome. I don't need money for free. I had a loaner at all times, and my car didn't have to go through the winter, and I saved it about 7,000 miles.
I got my car back tonight. I was going through some serious boost withdrawls.
I've decided not to ask for compensation. I've instead asked for my warranty to be extended for a full year, and to cover my next 5 services. My dealership is amazing, my service guys are awesome. I don't need money for free. I had a loaner at all times, and my car didn't have to go through the winter, and I saved it about 7,000 miles.
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Seems like a lot of miscommunication here, sitting at idle while the car warms up is generally not recommended (but isn't a bad idea in very cold climates). You should absolutely drive the car moderately (stay out of high RPMs and don't floor the throttle) until the oil temp is close to operating temperature. The time a vehicle takes to get its coolant and oil to operating temp can vary wildly depending on the motor and cooling configuration, to give you an idea I used to have a BMW 335is which would get me all the way to work (12 miles) in the morning while the oil temp was still in the cold zone but my M3 is warm before I even make it to the on ramp of the freeway!
Sitting at idle for too long isn't great for the motor because you're spending too much time with the oil way below normal operating temp when it is too thick to properly lubricate the moving parts of the engine. Remember that too much of a good thing is just as bad as too little! The best thing to do is to start the car, wait a few seconds and then start driving. Just don't get in the car and plant the throttle up to 6,000rpm in the first minute of driving and you'll be fine.
Sitting at idle for too long isn't great for the motor because you're spending too much time with the oil way below normal operating temp when it is too thick to properly lubricate the moving parts of the engine. Remember that too much of a good thing is just as bad as too little! The best thing to do is to start the car, wait a few seconds and then start driving. Just don't get in the car and plant the throttle up to 6,000rpm in the first minute of driving and you'll be fine.
within 5 min, all temperatures are usually up to normal for me.
