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Old 06-21-2015, 01:57 PM
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Benz proprietary lightning cable has arrived

Sound quality is phenomenal and superior to Bluetooth. It does eliminate the mini headphone jack if anybody cares about that. I do have a lightning cable extension on it as it is made just too small, cost me 60 bucks shipped on eBay




Prior to this I was using the 30 pin to lightning cable Apple extension with an additional lightning cable extension and this worked fine as well. I just didn't want all that clutter.

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Can u post a PIC of the cable. On our new s they gave us one with a USB on one end
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Bluetooth audio is horrible in these cars. Quality is pathetic. Is this CD quality, assuming the file being played is adequate to support?
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This sounds like a good idea. There is no doubt that direct connection is superior to BT from an acoustic standpoint. Additionally you gain access to folders and such in your navi display that cant be done with BT.

Do you know if this cable is compatible with 2011?

Also, I imagine that it is for newer phones? Like iPhone 5 and above? I am still on 4s so connector I believe is different.

Thanks in advance Pete and thanks for sharing all of your discoveries.

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For those of you with a 2014 (and possibly older), you can simply use an Apple 30 pin to lightening adapter. I use this and the stock 2014 30 pin connector for my iphone and works flawlessly.
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Bluetooth audio is horrible in these cars. Quality is pathetic. Is this CD quality, assuming the file being played is adequate to support?
Yes and no...'cd quality is truly uncompressed file ... All acc audio is compressed unless lossless... If lossless then yes, cd quality

You will be impressed

Yes, same can be achieved with 30 pin to lightning cable Apple extension as mentioned in first post

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This sounds like a good idea. There is no doubt that direct connection is superior to BT from an acoustic standpoint. Additionally you gain access to folders and such in your navi display that cant be done with BT.

Do you know if this cable is compatible with 2011?

Also, I imagine that it is for newer phones? Like iPhone 5 and above? I am still on 4s so connector I believe is different.

Thanks in advance Pete and thanks for sharing all of your discoveries.

Cheers.
Vrod.... Won't apply to your 2011.... You're golden with your setup now

Cheers brother
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
Can u post a PIC of the cable. On our new s they gave us one with a USB on one end
The S class has a USB to lightning cable that offers full control of the idevice

E class still requires for 2014/15 a lightning to proprietary chunky plug interface to gain that control

Hence this NEW cable

The OLD cable was chunky proprietary plug to 30 pin idevice plug. Additional was mini stereo headphone jack on the old plug.

Just plugging in a USB to lightning cable to the 2014/15 e class gains only charging and nothing more, no audio transport and no control of idevice
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yeah my 2012 has a 300 pin to old iphone set up....and the headphone jack...not sure whats ever the point of that jack....i still use a old school ipod and put music on that for in car listening....never really learned how to store music on the HD built in...
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Originally Posted by HPMan
For those of you with a 2014 (and possibly older), you can simply use an Apple 30 pin to lightening adapter. I use this and the stock 2014 30 pin connector for my iphone and works flawlessly.
The adapter lets your car control a new iPhone? Most Amazon reviewers state that the 30 pin to lightning adapter only permits charging, nothing else. And do you have a link to the adapter that works for you? Apple wants $29 while knockoffs run like $5 on amazon.
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
... I do have a lightning cable extension on it as it is made just too small, cost me 60 bucks shipped on eBay
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This new MB cable costs $60? Geesh that's brutal.
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Hmm I think I had this cable installed from the factory in my '15 wagon. Is that just me or plugging the phone using this short cable which is hidden in the center console is too complicated?
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The adapter lets your car control a new iPhone? Most Amazon reviewers state that the 30 pin to lightning adapter only permits charging, nothing else. And do you have a link to the adapter that works for you? Apple wants $29 while knockoffs run like $5 on amazon.
The apple brand $30 cable, 30 pin to lightning ..:. This is the only one that works to control and charge

Ironically it took me buying three of these Apple brand cables to actually get one that finally worked and did not give me an error message on the iPhone

This is my purchase of the one that finally worked... First two were bought from best buy

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The apple brand $30 cable, 30 pin to lightning ..:. This is the only one that works to control and charge
+1. Also, if you need an extension cord, I have a Cable Jive one and it retains all control functionality. I tried a cheap one off amazon and it only permitted charging.
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+1. Also, if you need an extension cord, I have a Cable Jive one and it retains all control functionality. I tried a cheap one off amazon and it only permitted charging.
Same here...have the black cable jive off of Amazon, was dirt cheap
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
The apple brand $30 cable, 30 pin to lightning ..:. This is the only one that works to control and charge

Ironically it took me buying three of these Apple brand cables to actually get one that finally worked and did not give me an error message on the iPhone

This is my purchase of the one that finally worked... First two were bought from best buy
Thanks for the info!

Looks like Apple will sell direct for $29, free shipping.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD...30-pin-adapter

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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Vrod.... Won't apply to your 2011.... You're golden with your setup now

Cheers brother
Yeah,

I realized later that I already had the cable to direct connect in the glove box. Just forgot at the moment I was reading your post. That and a few beers last night before I replied to your post!

Checked today and I can indeed direct connect the 4S directly. A bit of a pain in the butt because the phone has to stay in glove box. Need an extension of some kind that doesn't get damaged with the glove box closed.

Its not that big of a deal though anyway as I am loading up my music registry directly from CD player and it sounds pretty good! And I see the folders also!

And, I have a 32gig Compact Flash card on its way too. Almost too many options to choose from.

Cheers!
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My only beef with the lightning connector is that it isn't as secure. I found I was getting disconnections between ipod and connector. No such issues with old school ipod classic and 30pin connector.
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Charging the iPhone through this isn't very fast either. Slow as hell!
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How does spotify work w this cable, and what can you control from the console? Not familiar with these capabilities at all.
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Any iPhone navi app will quiet any music being played to give directions and turn by turn guidance then go back to the music

The only control you have via the command knob is for iPhone as an iPod and full control That way
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Got it, so no specific app control like spotify, just the MP3's stored locally on the device.

And is the verdict that the $29 apple connector works just fine vs the oem cable?
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Benz proprietary lightning cable has arrived

Anything on Apple's Car Play?
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Got it, so no specific app control like spotify, just the MP3's stored locally on the device.

And is the verdict that the $29 apple connector works just fine vs the oem cable?
Dropping by apple today hoping to get confirmation from someone here. Thx!
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Well, I can confirm now, the apple adapter (with the bit of cord, that's the one I got) works flawlessly. Spotify tracks show artwork, and can be controlled from the cars interface, sounds 10x better than BT.


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