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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 11:36 AM
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would you buy your 2012-2013 Bi-Turbo all over again?

I'm looking at these years '12-13 and wondering from those who own them - would you buy again?

what issues have you seen/fixed? any repeat issues?
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 03:50 PM
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I would buy my 2012 all over again with the same tune that I have now.

If your looking to buy one, be sure it's CPO and buy the extended warranty. Check if the headlights have the V mark in the inner lens, if so ask the dealer replace it.

Also try to find one with LSD so your not fish tailing all of the place with all the power.

Good luck.

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I'm looking at these years '12-13 and wondering from those who own them - would you buy again?

what issues have you seen/fixed? any repeat issues?
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 06:48 PM
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yeah, id buy it again....no major issues in 4 yrs
cat coverter sensors went out twice, replaced,
air bellows in suspension bad , replaced
did the headlight swap.
otherwise nothing else.
I purchased ext warrenty, so 3 more yrs left
if i sold it now, and maybe got 55grand for it, what could i buy with the same performance??
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Davidkuo0330
I would buy my 2012 all over again with the same tune that I have now.

If your looking to buy one, be sure it's CPO and buy the extended warranty. Check if the headlights have the V mark in the inner lens, if so ask the dealer replace it.

Also try to find one with LSD so your not fish tailing all of the place with all the power.

Good luck.
I just bought a 2012 CPO E63. Can you elaborate on the V mark I the headlamp?
Thanks
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 11:45 PM
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Congrats.

The bulb in the headlights, burns to hot thus burns a V shape mark on the inner headlights lens. Dealer knows about this shortfall and should replace it free of change. You can see the V shape mark during the day and at night when the headlights are on.

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I just bought a 2012 CPO E63. Can you elaborate on the V mark I the headlamp?
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 01:20 AM
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I just bought a 2012 CPO E63. Can you elaborate on the V mark I the headlamp?
Thanks
do some deep searching about this issue, i think i have a thread in there, get on that if u have the issues
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Originally Posted by 2012 CCB E63
I just bought a 2012 CPO E63. Can you elaborate on the V mark I the headlamp?
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warns the CTS-V owners that you're coming to get them
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Davidkuo0330
I would buy my 2012 all over again with the same tune that I have now.

If your looking to buy one, be sure it's CPO and buy the extended warranty. Check if the headlights have the V mark in the inner lens, if so ask the dealer replace it.

Also try to find one with LSD so your not fish tailing all of the place with all the power.

Good luck.
so P30 doesn't mean it has limited-slip - correct?

found one nearby with 48k for $53k
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Dealers don't replace the headlamps anymore. There is now a cleaning method used as a repair.
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 12:45 PM
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Dealers don't replace the headlamps anymore. There is now a cleaning method used as a repair.
cleaning the internals of the lens?
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 02:32 PM
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cleaning the internals of the lens?
Correct. Take a bulb out and with a stick and swab with some cleaner
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Sorry, but no. LSD is an option and is not standard with the P30 package. I have become a believer the LSD with the power I put out helps me get a stright line acceleration. No fish tailing.

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found one nearby with 48k for $53k
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 04:33 PM
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what's a good LSD upgrade option? (oh no, I'm sure the vendors will come flying in now)
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Get it from the factory LSD, can't go wrong with it. My 2012 had 6,000 miles on it and now 18,000 miles. Don't buy an AMG without warranty. Good luck with your hunt.

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what's a good LSD upgrade option? (oh no, I'm sure the vendors will come flying in now)

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Don't know how recent this was for you, but my was just replaced for the second time about 3 weeks ago.

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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 12:15 AM
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Just had my headlights replaced too. They tried to clean them first though.
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there is no cleaning method....its burned into the plastic
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
there is no cleaning method....its burned into the plastic
Ok....ill load the official mb bulletin as soon as I can.
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 09:31 AM
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Your always right Vdub. It's the bulbs that gets too hot thus the headligh lens burns. I don't see how any cleaning method can resolve this issue. Press your dealer and they will replace the headlights. They actual make money doing this.

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what's a good LSD upgrade option? (oh no, I'm sure the vendors will come flying in now)
I purchased a Quaife for my SL63 from Bird's in the UK as part of a forum group buy. Had it installed by my indy. I like it, worth the money. When I was researching the other one that is often referenced is wavetrac. Quaife is the only experience I have though and can only compare it before (no LSD) and after on the SL. Here is the link, although it is long over there is some info you can reference. https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...group-buy.html
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here are the instructions to dealers. its already been revised 3 times. most dealers dont even know about this because there is no mention of a V (except for in a tech topic file). mercedes will receive the warranty claim and debit the dealer and deny them for replacement of the headlamps but by this time you will be gone and its on them. the dealers will soon catch on.

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Thanks. Glad my E63 was just replaced.

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here are the instructions to dealers. its already been revised 3 times. most dealers dont even know about this because there is no mention of a V (except for in a tech topic file). mercedes will receive the warranty claim and debit the dealer and deny them for replacement of the headlamps but by this time you will be gone and its on them. the dealers will soon catch on.
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I'd definitely buy again, best car I've had. No issues other than bent rims but that was fault (actually the highway dept's fault) as I hit a gargancious bump in the road last spring.
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Originally Posted by Rocman8
here are the instructions to dealers. its already been revised 3 times. most dealers dont even know about this because there is no mention of a V (except for in a tech topic file). mercedes will receive the warranty claim and debit the dealer and deny them for replacement of the headlamps but by this time you will be gone and its on them. the dealers will soon catch on.
My dealer tried the cleaning method also but it didn't work so they replaced my headlamps.
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