Stock 2014 E63S - 600 WHP ??
02-16-2016, 02:06 AM
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2014 E550 4MATIC TUNED - Turbo Upgraded Stage 3
Stock 2014 E63S - 600 WHP ??
This just surprised me...
Someone told me he saw a Stock E63S runs 600whp...
The guy probably didn't even know which dyno machine did it.
But my buddy's E63s only runs 523whp.
So, my buddy's E63S might have serious problem.
Someone told me he saw a Stock E63S runs 600whp...
The guy probably didn't even know which dyno machine did it.
But my buddy's E63s only runs 523whp.
So, my buddy's E63S might have serious problem.
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02-16-2016, 05:07 AM
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Wouldn't that equal roughly 700hp? I'm quite sure that no standard E63S would have 700hp, as that's what most tunes are getting. 520whp sounds roughly correct as that's around 630hpish which is what most people are reporting.
02-16-2016, 08:32 AM
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Factory promised is 585hp.
02-16-2016, 01:17 PM
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no way a stock one makes 600awhp. Lots of people talk. Hell I heard someone tell me they swear they saw my w219 55 run 10s once. best it ever went was 11.3. Morale of the story ..people don;t know ****.
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02-17-2016, 02:36 PM
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2016 AMG S65, AMG GL63, 2012 AMG E63 With AMS Alpha 9 Package, Renntech 200 Catted Downpipes.
Maybe that someone who told you they saw a stock E63S with 600whp meant that it is a renntech authorized Mercedes dealer that sold a Renntech tune E63S with 600whp. As some members have mentioned. That numbers comes for a Renntech or AMS ECU tune number.
02-18-2016, 09:39 AM
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I am seriously contemplating sending my ECU to AMS to retune over the Renntech I have now. My Renntech has lots and lots of torque, drops off fast up top
02-18-2016, 09:46 AM
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That would be interesting to find out how different the tunes feel. After the retune to account for the downpipes that were recently installed, the car now puts out 750 AWTQ. It is a great feeling when you hit the throttle. I love this car!
02-18-2016, 10:07 AM
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2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
hmm i would of thought more with downpipes as their tune alone seems to be hitting around 608 whp.
im looking towards the weistec true turbo back downpipes as they are getting around 685 whp..... the cost is a bit high but i can get just the turbo pipes from them for 4K and fab up some mid-pipes
02-18-2016, 10:13 AM
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687 RWTQ on a Dyno dynamics (10 to 15% lower than dynojet readings). I feel like I will need new motor mounts sooner than later
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02-18-2016, 10:32 AM
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hmm i would of thought more with downpipes as their tune alone seems to be hitting around 608 whp.
im looking towards the weistec true turbo back downpipes as they are getting around 685 whp..... the cost is a bit high but i can get just the turbo pipes from them for 4K and fab up some mid-pipes
02-18-2016, 10:44 AM
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Low profile motor mounts only required for awd models. Rwd kit does not need mounts either cks, weistec, or kleeman
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02-18-2016, 10:51 AM
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2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
only for Awd on weistec motor mounts (but kit comes with it anyways so no biggie), but the CKS kit requires "modification" to the DP to fit the awd... and who knows how much modifications since no one's installed them on awd model... i would worry that these modifications cks pipes require might compromise flow like the stock ones already do.
02-18-2016, 11:23 AM
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2016 AMG S65, AMG GL63, 2012 AMG E63 With AMS Alpha 9 Package, Renntech 200 Catted Downpipes.
The difference I would imagine between the 2 tunes would be AMS ECU and nothing else vs. Renntech ECU tune with catted downpipes.
I was really happy I switched from Renntech to AMS, but couldn't tell you the difference between them because I went from ECU tune to full turbo upgrade from AMS. I feel that I have a real confident sedan that can take on the big boys.
I was really happy I switched from Renntech to AMS, but couldn't tell you the difference between them because I went from ECU tune to full turbo upgrade from AMS. I feel that I have a real confident sedan that can take on the big boys.
02-18-2016, 12:26 PM
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Disclaimer, This is simply based on MY datalogs not actual knowledge.
I feel that the RENNtech tune calls for a bit more timing up top compared to others based on what I have been hearing others are seeing on dynos (I believe KLR was one of them). I routinely see 4.5 to 7 degrees of timing up top where I believe the average is 3-4 on most other tunes. However I feel all the protective elements in the car's ecu conspire to make sure you do not make all the boost your tune is asking for.
When my car spikes up in power, my AFR seems a tad richer than the mid 12s it usually is. If Renntech would richen the mix a bit, even with the higher timing, it will make even more power up top.
Just my lil observation but not enough data points to confirm. Also seems like due to the higher timing requirements in the Renntech tunes, if conditions are not puurrrfect, you won't make the full power. Most dynos I've seen online used a mix of racegas to get those numbers
I feel that the RENNtech tune calls for a bit more timing up top compared to others based on what I have been hearing others are seeing on dynos (I believe KLR was one of them). I routinely see 4.5 to 7 degrees of timing up top where I believe the average is 3-4 on most other tunes. However I feel all the protective elements in the car's ecu conspire to make sure you do not make all the boost your tune is asking for.
When my car spikes up in power, my AFR seems a tad richer than the mid 12s it usually is. If Renntech would richen the mix a bit, even with the higher timing, it will make even more power up top.
Just my lil observation but not enough data points to confirm. Also seems like due to the higher timing requirements in the Renntech tunes, if conditions are not puurrrfect, you won't make the full power. Most dynos I've seen online used a mix of racegas to get those numbers
