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Old 03-10-2016, 03:13 PM
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anyone seen this kit from boost logic? price seems too good to be true ($2,399) considering weistec charges about 6K for same setup and only other turbo pipes i have seen that are direct fit to AWD versions are kleemanns and they are around 6K too

http://www.boostlogic.com/product/me...-and-midpipes/
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anyone seen this kit from boost logic? price seems too good to be true ($2,399) considering weistec charges about 6K for same setup and only other turbo pipes i have seen that are direct fit to AWD versions are kleemanns and they are around 6K too

http://www.boostlogic.com/product/me...-and-midpipes/
Kleemann does not produce AWD m157 turbo pipes.
Its all about quality and name.
I am waiting for mine weistec to be delivered next week and installed with capristo exhaust.
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Kleemann does not produce AWD m157 turbo pipes.
Its all about quality and name.
I am waiting for mine weistec to be delivered next week and installed with capristo exhaust.
kleemann does make turbo pipes for awd... i have an email directly from cory @ kleemann to sell them to me

The catless turbo pipes are $3995.00 USD- but these will only work on the 2WD cars. For the 4Matic versions, we sell only a catted version which is $5995.00.

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At the end of the day, they're just pipes... Boost Logic is still making a decent profit at that price. Weistec is crazy for charging $6k for theirs but people buy it, so it doesn't matter to them.

Maybe we can do a group buy and get them even cheaper?
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At the end of the day, they're just pipes... Boost Logic is still making a decent profit at that price. Weistec is crazy for charging $6k for theirs but people buy it, so it doesn't matter to them.

Maybe we can do a group buy and get them even cheaper?
Im always in for a group buy, but boost logic did email me back after i asked them if they fit AWD M157 and they said they have not tried them on awd car, so that mean probably not without some cutting of low profile motor mounts
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I got mine weistec for 5250 $ including delivery to UK, as one time special offer from MSL performance. I have personally seen and touched their pipes, quality of turbo bridge pipes and their coating is amazing, the sound on stock mufflers is superb. So it worked out for me cheaper than Kleemann.
Will do upgrade and take some photos next week.
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I got mine weistec for 5250 $ including delivery to UK, as one time special offer from MSL performance. I have personally seen and touched their pipes, quality of turbo bridge pipes and their coating is amazing, the sound on stock mufflers is superb. So it worked out for me cheaper than Kleemann.
Will do upgrade and take some photos next week.
would be awesome if you could do a before and after dyno to see what the pickup is as from what i have seen, should be a bit more than all the offerings from ams/renntech since the weistec ones are true turbo-back replacing the bridge pipe
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These are 100% the same pipes as the ones CKS sells, that they are having then upper pipes ceramic coated ( doesn't do much and very cheap to have done yourself ) and adding a little heat shield to. All coming form the same Chinese supplier. FWIW the CKS pipes are nicely made and a good deal from them direct. I paid about 1500 plus shipping for them.

These will not fit AWD without custom mounts or modification. Frankly good to see normally priced options coming around for these cars.

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would be awesome if you could do a before and after dyno to see what the pickup is as from what i have seen, should be a bit more than all the offerings from ams/renntech since the weistec ones are true turbo-back replacing the bridge pipe
Okay, i will do my best . Will try to make a nice sound clip as well. I haven't found any E63 with weistec/capristo.
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These are 100% the same pipes as the ones CKS sells, that they are having then upper pipes ceramic coated ( doesn't do much and very cheap to have done yourself ) and adding a little heat shield to. All coming form the same Chinese supplier. FWIW the CKS pipes are nicely made and a good deal from them direct. I paid about 1500 plus shipping for them.

These will not fit AWD without custom mounts or modification. Frankly good to see normally priced options coming around for these cars.
Can you use the stock heat shield with these or CKS pipes (or does the stock even have shields?)
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Can you use the stock heat shield with these or CKS pipes (or does the stock even have shields?)
Mine are still in the box while I'm waiting for my spare turbo cores to be upgraded so can't say for sure yet what does or doesn't work but pretty sure no chance to use stock heat shields. I'll also be mating them to a custom back half exhaust with full 3" to the mufflers.
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Can you use the stock heat shield with these or CKS pipes (or does the stock even have shields?)
I am more than sure that heat shield remains same. Will check it also next week when the package arrives.
If you really want, you cant just wrap your pipes with thermo wrap.
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I am more than sure that heat shield remains same. Will check it also next week when the package arrives.
If you really want, you cant just wrap your pipes with thermo wrap.
I would want that to hide the pipes moreso than actual heat shielding
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I am more than sure that heat shield remains same. Will check it also next week when the package arrives.
If you really want, you cant just wrap your pipes with thermo wrap.
I intend to wrap the upper pipes in dei Titanium header wrap. That will work better than any heat shield for sure
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I just got the Eurocharged catback downpipes and tune deal for $2650.... great value compared to Weistec etc
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I just got the Eurocharged catback downpipes and tune deal for $2650.... great value compared to Weistec etc
+1 on that! I just got their tune deal as well except with their turbo back pipes.
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+1 on that! I just got their tune deal as well except with their turbo back pipes.
Whoops! I meant turbo back downpipes
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Whoops! I meant turbo back downpipes

The Eurocharged turboback pipe are also the same ones as these and cks. All from the same manufacturer, proving the point that there is no reason downpipes should be $5k+
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Originally Posted by KLR CLS
The Eurocharged turboback pipe are also the same ones as these and cks. All from the same manufacturer, proving the point that there is no reason downpipes should be $5k+
I just double checked. Kleemann does not produce 4matic turbo downpipes for E63.
If you really want good brand ( I used them on Audi ) and worth it's money , just go for HMS tuning. They have catless downpipes and turbo bridge pipes.
If you want my opinion. I would never use cks , and especially something that made in their warehouse.

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I just double checked. Kleemann does not produce 4matic turbo downpipes for E63.
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where are you hearing this from? i have both cory @ kleemann and Tal@ACGAutomotive saying they have Kleemann turbo back down pipes (catted) for AWD for $5999

look at post #22 here

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Mine are still in the box while I'm waiting for my spare turbo cores to be upgraded so can't say for sure yet what does or doesn't work but pretty sure no chance to use stock heat shields. I'll also be mating them to a custom back half exhaust with full 3" to the mufflers.
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I really want this....I also am afraid of noise and more important, SMELL
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Hope this is a proof for what I am saying.
Maybe they have catted version. But that's not what I was looking for.
For just downpipes even fi or ipe would fit from cls w218.
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Hope this is a proof for what I am saying.
Maybe they have catted version. But that's not what I was looking for.
For just downpipes even fi or ipe would fit from cls w218.
yes, they have catted turbo downpipes for m157 awd, but not catless... thats what ive been saying all along

anyways moot point as the whole reason i brought it up was for boost logic's setup an alternative to the turbo pipes costing around 6K (kleemann and weistec)
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Originally Posted by gaspam
yes, they have catted turbo downpipes for m157 awd, but not catless... thats what ive been saying all along

anyways moot point as the whole reason i brought it up was for boost logic's setup an alternative to the turbo pipes costing around 6K (kleemann and weistec)
Look at my post above. There is such company as HMS. They have good turbo downpipes for like €2k euro
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