viren.89

As the title asks.

Are you happy with just a "tune" ?

Would you upgrade turbo's if you could? or most you'd do is downpipes (i assume it isn't a big thing) don't really understand all the mods yet.

lol on my E55 all I did was tune/bigger HE /SC pulley. Some consider it minimalistic mods.

How about you guys?

Davidkuo0330

I wasn't so I went with the AMS Alpha 9 upgrade. Love the power.

efiftyfizzle

I don't think it's that everyone is satisfied with a tune... it's just that a tune itself yields you so much extra power and proven track times while upgrading turbos and all that costs significantly more and has not proven significant results.

The mercedes tuning hardware is all out there... the software has to catch up with it.

viren.89

so most are happy with tune only then.

What is the least amount of horsepower a tune would yield?

at least 70whp? and stock is 550whp ?

KLR CLS

Like anything you get used to it and want more. Also depends on if its hobby for you or not. I do all my own work, so I'm always looking to have another project. To me, a turbo car needs downpipes. Changes the character and responsiveness drastically. I would consider downpipes and tune the "minimum" mods for this platform. Now I'm also not what you would call minimalist when it comes to mods, hence I'm doing full turbos, turbo back, and basically every mod currently available, but for some, tune and downpipes should be plenty.

joseyu

I have the tune, downpipes, air filters and TCU/VB mod on my car and I think I am pretty much done. Time to save money for my next toy.

gaspam

generally stock preface lifts seem to be about 490 whp, facelift 520 whp and S-package 540 whp...... with tune all come to about 600 whp so the delta depends on which car you start with but all end up at about the same level after tune

TonyC

i'm perfectly content with the p30...

PeterUbers

But torque gains are a bit more substantial

viren.89

If after tune alone- this ends at 600 whp then I think i'll be content but if downpipes

improves responsiveness then that's it. LoL

I'm thinking with just a tune E63TT should definitely "feel" more powerful than even slightly modded E55.

Maybe the shocks absorb better on the E63 and deliver power better compared to E55 plus RWD vs AWD could also take the brutality factor away?

Stranger8808

E55 modded or not doesn't even come close to a stock biturbo.

kponti

You will need mbh headers, 77mm supercharger pulley, and a 82mm or larger tb with ecu and tcu to compete with the P30 rwd or AMGs awd

TonyC

this + 100.

kponti

If my tune gave me all 600rwhp as advertised, I would be happy enough

PeterUbers

Even the modded e55's running 10's?

Davidkuo0330

Most like Peter, it's with a total rebuilt engin that is heavily modify to get to 10s and maybe about 145mph or more?

Zod

10's have been achieved with bolt on mate for the 55k. But this also involved good weather, setup and driver

chiromikey

Imho, with rare exception, fully modded E55s still own the biturbo cars in the 1/4mile but I'm sure anything after that distance would be just the opposite.

Ruthle55

You're not very smart, are you? lol.

Bolt on e55s can run 10s. Do e63s with a tune trap around 130? Since bolt on e55s with race gas do

gaspam

yes

http://dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz-E...lip-26214.html

http://dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz-E...lip-26676.html

i had both bolt on e55 (180m/ LTH/ TB/2500 stall) and tuned e63s..... e63 is faster

and to be fair, most all of the e55's that are trapping 130+ either have 3L weistec blower, custom turbo kit, NOS, or ported heads , so not really simple bolt ons like a pulley/header/tb...

i think only 2 e55's ( lowpro and bassn_07 ) achieved 130mph w/o bigger aftermarket blower, nos, turbos or ported heads

Ralcbah

Well, I was very happy with the stock car for almost a year. Then was very happy with the tuned car for about a year. Downpipes to be installed when built (two weeks); hope to be happy with that mod until 2017 or so.

Not performance mods, but also debadged and dechromed my car. Not a huge effort, but made me happy, again.

efiftyfizzle

The shop I had my car tuned at said they are in the works for a custom intake setup for the E63. Should get some good power and sound out of it. Stay tuned.

e63estate

just got a brabus b63-650 tune...gotta say i'm pretty happy with it

Exotic-metal55

Power is to addicting to settle for just a tune. Some wait a while but the urges take over eventually

Ruthle55

Stall will hurt trap. Multiple people have trapped 130+ without a different blower or ported heads. I'm just saying, that some people in here think a bolt on e55 can't play with a stock e63, and that is very incorrect.

Still, the 157 has way more potential. Hope to move up to this platform some day.