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^ we know that a 1000hp clk63, that weighs MUCH LESS than M157 cars, with no tcu limits cant break into the 8s and is launching 1.479 60ft
so you think a much heavier 4 door sedan with less power is going to do better ?
4 door sedan will never be a GTR
so you think a much heavier 4 door sedan with less power is going to do better ?
4 door sedan will never be a GTR
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oh stop it..! What Im saying is not a lie though so i dont know why are being negative. If a tuned AWD rs7 can do 60' in 1.5-1.6 then the e63 should be as well. Its no gtr but atleast it should be able to match the rs7.
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I don't think we can compete with a tq converter transmission when it comes to launching no matter what tune we open up...
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We cant compete with rs7 auto from a dig nor can we beat m5 DCTs from a roll. Does anybody else feel let down by this gen 4matic e63? Because I dont even think they tried. Atleast it looks Mercedes actually spent time developing the next gen 4matic on w213. Looks promising.
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We cant compete with rs7 auto from a dig nor can we beat m5 DCTs from a roll. Does anybody else feel let down by this gen 4matic e63? Because I dont even think they tried. Atleast it looks Mercedes actually spent time developing the next gen 4matic on w213. Looks promising.Enjoy what you got, and have fun.
FWIW, I've beat much, much faster cars at the track. Bench racing via numbers doesn't prove much in my mind.
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Could the car be better? Sure. Could the m5/rs7 be better? Sure. They are all super cool and really impressive. Will next gen be better? Sure. Will the next next gen be better? Yup.
Enjoy what you got, and have fun.
FWIW, I've beat much, much faster cars at the track. Bench racing via numbers doesn't prove much in my mind.
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Enjoy what you got, and have fun.
FWIW, I've beat much, much faster cars at the track. Bench racing via numbers doesn't prove much in my mind.
couple cents on the house
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We cant compete with rs7 auto from a dig nor can we beat m5 DCTs from a roll. Does anybody else feel let down by this gen 4matic e63? Because I dont even think they tried. Atleast it looks Mercedes actually spent time developing the next gen 4matic on w213. Looks promising.From a roll with 4matic e63s on stg1 to stg1 I have won m5 DCT. It depends on so many variables you can't just say it's always going to be the same outcome on cars that are this closely matched
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Your race depends on how two cars are modded too though. How much does st1 m5 make, which tuner, which dyno on what day? How much does st1 e63 make, which tuner on which dyno and on what day? Even stock for stock m5 traps more in the 1/4 mile. Tune for tune both on stock turbos m5 will beat it as well.
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I could only wish for those optimal conditions you speak of. I raced several Subbys and Evos from a dig after they tried to mess with the 55 on the freeway and everyone of them couldn't believe I pulled even and starting to pull away by the end of first gear. Street tires, street races, no prep...
I can't speak for others but in my case I stand by my position that my E55 would keep up or even out launch any 4matic for the front half of a race and even through the 1/4 against anything this side of turbo upgrades.
I can't speak for others but in my case I stand by my position that my E55 would keep up or even out launch any 4matic for the front half of a race and even through the 1/4 against anything this side of turbo upgrades.
Subs and Evos only really make good launches when they dump the clutch, which not many are keen as it just breaks in the long run. I did not have much trouble with them either through my experience
If you have members getting 2.8 how can you say its a bad launching car...I don't get it
In my case I drive both, TT63 hands down will nail it 90% of the time (yes even with AWD it does spin). 55k on the other hand, needs new rubber that has to be warm and cleanish streets.
Just look at the mosco races of the high powered RWD cars, they just can not get the power down like the AWD cars can
To go fast consistently 63TT 4matic wins hands, also lets not get into the back to back runs
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show me an E55 beating a tuned 63TT (2015+) on the streets. I would love to try it with mine, but i need to splash out on some new rubber. Also I have a feeling I know what the results are already..I just cant do it to my first misters (55k)...the lady has a special place in my heart
Subs and Evos only really make good launches when they dump the clutch, which not many are keen as it just breaks in the long run. I did not have much trouble with them either through my experience
If you have members getting 2.8 how can you say its a bad launching car...I don't get it
In my case I drive both, TT63 hands down will nail it 90% of the time (yes even with AWD it does spin). 55k on the other hand, needs new rubber that has to be warm and cleanish streets.
Just look at the mosco races of the high powered RWD cars, they just can not get the power down like the AWD cars can
To go fast consistently 63TT 4matic wins hands, also lets not get into the back to back runs
Subs and Evos only really make good launches when they dump the clutch, which not many are keen as it just breaks in the long run. I did not have much trouble with them either through my experience
If you have members getting 2.8 how can you say its a bad launching car...I don't get it
In my case I drive both, TT63 hands down will nail it 90% of the time (yes even with AWD it does spin). 55k on the other hand, needs new rubber that has to be warm and cleanish streets.
Just look at the mosco races of the high powered RWD cars, they just can not get the power down like the AWD cars can
To go fast consistently 63TT 4matic wins hands, also lets not get into the back to back runs
at that point e63tt is playing catchup to other car
all the 0-60 mph times you see, dont take into account for that trans pause since they use a 1 foot rollout and dont start timing until the car has actually moved more than a foot..... so whatever the actual "lag/pause" time of the MCT trans is, needs to be added to the 0-60mph time to get its realworld 0-60 mph time
no way our cars are doing anywhere close to 2.8 sec 0-60....audi r8 plus does 0-60 in 2.7 sec and i raced one a few weekends back from a stop and it wasnt even funny... he put 2 car lengths on me almost immediately from the start and i tried both brake torquing and just mashing pedal with both results the same (him launching hard while my car paused and then went)......so no way we are even close to 2.8 sec in tuned/dp form
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Bottom line...for the power, awd, and it's specs on paper, relatively speaking, this platform is about the worst performing car when it comes to launching...period!
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i think the part of the launch that you are missing the point on is the 1/2 second pause the M157 MCT trans has off the line.... e63tt mash pedal.. trans waits .5 sec... then goes
at that point e63tt is playing catchup to other car
all the 0-60 mph times you see, dont take into account for that trans pause since they use a 1 foot rollout and dont start timing until the car has actually moved more than a foot..... so whatever the actual "lag/pause" time of the MCT trans is, needs to be added to the 0-60mph time to get its realworld 0-60 mph time
no way our cars are doing anywhere close to 2.8 sec 0-60....audi r8 plus does 0-60 in 2.7 sec and i raced one a few weekends back from a stop and it wasnt even funny... he put 2 car lengths on me almost immediately from the start and i tried both brake torquing and just mashing pedal with both results the same (him launching hard while my car paused and then went)......so no way we are even close to 2.8 sec in tuned/dp form
at that point e63tt is playing catchup to other car
all the 0-60 mph times you see, dont take into account for that trans pause since they use a 1 foot rollout and dont start timing until the car has actually moved more than a foot..... so whatever the actual "lag/pause" time of the MCT trans is, needs to be added to the 0-60mph time to get its realworld 0-60 mph time
no way our cars are doing anywhere close to 2.8 sec 0-60....audi r8 plus does 0-60 in 2.7 sec and i raced one a few weekends back from a stop and it wasnt even funny... he put 2 car lengths on me almost immediately from the start and i tried both brake torquing and just mashing pedal with both results the same (him launching hard while my car paused and then went)......so no way we are even close to 2.8 sec in tuned/dp form
2.3 second 60' time = 35.5 mph @60' = 7.0 second 0-60 time
2.2 second 60' time = 37.1 mph @60' = 6.5 second 0-60 time
2.1 second 60' time = 38.9 mph @60' = 5.9 second 0-60 time
2.0 second 60' time = 40.9 mph @60' = 5.2 second 0-60 time
1.9 second 60' time = 43.0 mph @60' = 4.6 second 0-60 time
1.8 second 60' time = 45.5 mph @60' = 4.0 second 0-60 time
1.7 second 60' time = 48.1 mph @60' = 3.4 second 0-60 time
1.6 second 60' time = 51.1 mph @60' = 2.9 second 0-60 time
1.5 second 60' time = 54.5 mph @60' = 2.2 second 0-60 time
1.4 second 60' time = 58.4 mph @60' = 1.5 second 0-60 time
1.36 second 60' time = 60.0 mph @60' = 1.36 second 0-60 time
1.3 second 60' time = 62.9 mph @60' = 1.2 second 0-60 time
1.2 second 60' time = 68.1 mph @60' = 1.1 second 0-60 time
1.1 second 60' time = 74.3 mph @60' = 0.9 second 0-60 time
1.0 second 60' time = 81.8 mph @60' = 0.7 second 0-60 time
I haven't really seen anyone cutting better than a 1.7 60' time which is mid 3 second 0-60 for the E63S. In comparison, stock RS7 are pulling 1.6 60' times which is high 2/low 3 second for 0-60.
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I've seen 1 or 2 rare high 1.6 60ft times from the m157 awd platform on tires but it's the exception and not the rule! I call bs on any "claims" faster than that I don't care what some dash box says!
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