notatroll

Did you blow up ur trans because you tuned your tcu or because you couldnt tune your tcu? If that makes sense.

Fairbird

I snapped rear main shaft . Do you think it's related to bad tcu tune ?

vkudenko444

Vlad, common, don't make conclusions out of your poor experience with this tuner for the whole MB world tuning of E/CLS63. Many other tuners have had reliable solutions re MCT builds.

chiromikey

Tune or not, I'd think there would be other parts that would fail long before that...

notatroll

Im waiting for the day when these cars will be able to launch like GTRs on the street or drag strip.

Fairbird

not making any , I asked him if he wants headache

Fairbird

exactly

Fairbird

newer I guess

gaspam

you will be waiting a lifetime as no mercedes (including the CLK63 that runs 9.16 w/ 1.479 60 foot) will ever launch like the GTRs that are launching with 1.2x 60fts

you bought the wrong car

notatroll

We dont know what it would be like until tcu limit is removed.

gaspam

^ we know that a 1000hp clk63, that weighs MUCH LESS than M157 cars, with no tcu limits cant break into the 8s and is launching 1.479 60ft

so you think a much heavier 4 door sedan with less power is going to do better ?

4 door sedan will never be a GTR

CarHopper

He doesn't even have one. He's the same one who started the thread not to long ago that just stirred the pot about how M tuning etc. are better than AMG blah blah blah.

gaspam

damn i got trolled by notatroll

notatroll

oh stop it..! What Im saying is not a lie though so i dont know why are being negative. If a tuned AWD rs7 can do 60' in 1.5-1.6 then the e63 should be as well. Its no gtr but atleast it should be able to match the rs7.

chiromikey

I don't think we can compete with a tq converter transmission when it comes to launching no matter what tune we open up...

notatroll

We cant compete with rs7 auto from a dig nor can we beat m5 DCTs from a roll. Does anybody else feel let down by this gen 4matic e63? Because I dont even think they tried. Atleast it looks Mercedes actually spent time developing the next gen 4matic on w213. Looks promising.

Ralcbah

Could the car be better? Sure. Could the m5/rs7 be better? Sure. They are all super cool and really impressive. Will next gen be better? Sure. Will the next next gen be better? Yup.

Enjoy what you got, and have fun.

FWIW, I've beat much, much faster cars at the track. Bench racing via numbers doesn't prove much in my mind.

couple cents on the house

notatroll

I agree. I hope to see some real life performance data and videos from Weistec soon.

Amg63-

this comment depends on how the cars are modded actually.

From a roll with 4matic e63s on stg1 to stg1 I have won m5 DCT. It depends on so many variables you can't just say it's always going to be the same outcome on cars that are this closely matched

notatroll

Your race depends on how two cars are modded too though. How much does st1 m5 make, which tuner, which dyno on what day? How much does st1 e63 make, which tuner on which dyno and on what day? Even stock for stock m5 traps more in the 1/4 mile. Tune for tune both on stock turbos m5 will beat it as well.

Zod

show me an E55 beating a tuned 63TT (2015+) on the streets. I would love to try it with mine, but i need to splash out on some new rubber. Also I have a feeling I know what the results are already..I just cant do it to my first misters (55k)...the lady has a special place in my heart

Subs and Evos only really make good launches when they dump the clutch, which not many are keen as it just breaks in the long run. I did not have much trouble with them either through my experience

If you have members getting 2.8 how can you say its a bad launching car...I don't get it

In my case I drive both, TT63 hands down will nail it 90% of the time (yes even with AWD it does spin). 55k on the other hand, needs new rubber that has to be warm and cleanish streets.

Just look at the mosco races of the high powered RWD cars, they just can not get the power down like the AWD cars can

To go fast consistently 63TT 4matic wins hands, also lets not get into the back to back runs

gaspam

i think the part of the launch that you are missing the point on is the 1/2 second pause the M157 MCT trans has off the line.... e63tt mash pedal.. trans waits .5 sec... then goes

at that point e63tt is playing catchup to other car

all the 0-60 mph times you see, dont take into account for that trans pause since they use a 1 foot rollout and dont start timing until the car has actually moved more than a foot..... so whatever the actual "lag/pause" time of the MCT trans is, needs to be added to the 0-60mph time to get its realworld 0-60 mph time

no way our cars are doing anywhere close to 2.8 sec 0-60....audi r8 plus does 0-60 in 2.7 sec and i raced one a few weekends back from a stop and it wasnt even funny... he put 2 car lengths on me almost immediately from the start and i tried both brake torquing and just mashing pedal with both results the same (him launching hard while my car paused and then went)......so no way we are even close to 2.8 sec in tuned/dp form

chiromikey

Bottom line...for the power, awd, and it's specs on paper, relatively speaking, this platform is about the worst performing car when it comes to launching...period!

efiftyfizzle

I don't believe the 2.8 0-60 one bit... here's some 60' to 0-60 calculator (approximate) I found on another forum:

2.3 second 60' time = 35.5 mph @60' = 7.0 second 0-60 time
2.2 second 60' time = 37.1 mph @60' = 6.5 second 0-60 time
2.1 second 60' time = 38.9 mph @60' = 5.9 second 0-60 time
2.0 second 60' time = 40.9 mph @60' = 5.2 second 0-60 time
1.9 second 60' time = 43.0 mph @60' = 4.6 second 0-60 time
1.8 second 60' time = 45.5 mph @60' = 4.0 second 0-60 time
1.7 second 60' time = 48.1 mph @60' = 3.4 second 0-60 time
1.6 second 60' time = 51.1 mph @60' = 2.9 second 0-60 time
1.5 second 60' time = 54.5 mph @60' = 2.2 second 0-60 time
1.4 second 60' time = 58.4 mph @60' = 1.5 second 0-60 time
1.36 second 60' time = 60.0 mph @60' = 1.36 second 0-60 time
1.3 second 60' time = 62.9 mph @60' = 1.2 second 0-60 time
1.2 second 60' time = 68.1 mph @60' = 1.1 second 0-60 time
1.1 second 60' time = 74.3 mph @60' = 0.9 second 0-60 time
1.0 second 60' time = 81.8 mph @60' = 0.7 second 0-60 time

I haven't really seen anyone cutting better than a 1.7 60' time which is mid 3 second 0-60 for the E63S. In comparison, stock RS7 are pulling 1.6 60' times which is high 2/low 3 second for 0-60.

chiromikey

I've seen 1 or 2 rare high 1.6 60ft times from the m157 awd platform on tires but it's the exception and not the rule! I call bs on any "claims" faster than that I don't care what some dash box says!