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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 05:59 PM
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Resonator removal H vs X vs Straight

Guys I am looking to get the resonators removed, whats is the the difference between the x, H and straight pipe configurations?
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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 06:02 PM
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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 06:05 PM
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Im assuming straight is louder what about other two?
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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 06:18 PM
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Straight pipes will be the louder, X pipe will give you more sound over the stock resonator, stock is already an H pipe.
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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 06:28 PM
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Don't do straight, yea it's louder but not in a good way. Also being straight the two sides don't mix and balance anymore so the exhaust systems tends to shake the car. I also feel like it hurt the low end torque. Installed a H after driving around two days with straight pipes and am much happier, sounds much better, exhaust stopped shaking and the low end grunt returned.
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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 06:29 PM
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Straight is loud and raspy, H tones down the straight pipe sound a little, X quiets things even more but still sounds louder than resonator at WOT.
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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 06:33 PM
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This is my car with Magnaflow X pipe:

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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 08:15 PM
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Thanks for posting the vids I am going to do it.

is the connection something fabricated at the the shop or is it a pre fabricated piece that the shop installs after cutting resonator out?
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They use an X pipe already made (Magnaflow), they just weld it in.
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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 09:22 PM
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I guess I'm looking for an X or H made for our cars for this purpose. Unless it's a standard size and can use any
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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 09:26 PM
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There is no specific part, its a universal part.
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M157 3" straight pipes, gives it a nice little extra bark when on it 👍 No need for an x-pipe.

Any good custom muffler shop should have 3" stainless steel piping in stock.

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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 09:12 AM
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X pipe for NA engine and H pipe for forced induction is best.
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Old Apr 21, 2017 | 05:34 PM
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Going to do H. Before I do it is there any reason this would cause any warranty issues?
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AG6
Going to do H. Before I do it is there any reason this would cause any warranty issues?
Don't worry about warranty on a reso delete , it won't affect the car in any way except sound , I'm looking for a weld in h pipe myself , did you find anything?
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 08:28 PM
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I went straight instead of the resonator but it sounded like a truck. The resonator has an internal H so I had the shop add one of the same size in the same place. Sounds great and just the right amount of moderately louder. Don't buy a prefab kit - a decent exhaust shop should be able to whip something simple up for less and you'll still have to pay them for the same labor.

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Anyone with a Biturbo car done a Straight pipe with downpipes? How loud is that?
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 11:33 AM
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I posted a thread a while back if you want to search for it. As long as you leave the stock mufflers in place you'll be ok. As RJStanford mentioned, straight pipes sound too much like an American truck to me but it was awesome on up/down shifts!
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RJStanford
I went straight instead of the resonator but it sounded like a truck. The resonator has an internal H so I had the shop add one of the same size in the same place. Sounds great and just the right amount of moderately louder. Don't buy a prefab kit - a decent exhaust shop should be able to whip something simple up for less and you'll still have to pay them for the same labor.
Thanks for posting , everyone says straight pipes are louder but that doesn't mean better , I don't want my car to sound like **** either , I'm glad the h pipe worked out for you.

What size pipe is the exhaust? Magna flow sells a nice X pipe , I wonder how that sounds vs the H pipes
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 12:24 PM
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Thanks for posting , everyone says straight pipes are louder but that doesn't mean better , I don't want my car to sound like **** either , I'm glad the h pipe worked out for you.

What size pipe is the exhaust? Magna flow sells a nice X pipe , I wonder how that sounds vs the H pipes
98% sure its 3" back there - if not it was 2-7/8" or similar. My exhaust shop just matched the pipe. The H was pretty small, maybe 1" or at most 1-1/2" diameter. I figure that MB had done their homework as far as that went.

FWIW, I think I ended up paying around $125 all-in for the work and materials. Definitely check with your local shop before buying something online.
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 06:50 PM
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I'm surprised the H changed the sound that much that's crazy , Did the shop use stainless pipe?
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 01:26 PM
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I've got the straight pipes done with no cats and still retain the stock mufflers. It does have more "BArk" "Crackle" but seems to also have a unevenness about it that I can feel. I think I'll end up going X pipe just for the smoothness but maybe before that since its Cheap add a 1" cross pipe and see if that works.
Here is what it currently looks like:



Here is how it sounds outside:

Here is how it sounds inside:
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 02:05 PM
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I agree about the unevenness. I always felt like the right bank was louder and it actually was enough to bother me.
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Originally Posted by TTMerc
I've got the straight pipes done with no cats and still retain the stock mufflers. It does have more "BArk" "Crackle" but seems to also have a unevenness about it that I can feel. I think I'll end up going X pipe just for the smoothness but maybe before that since its Cheap add a 1" cross pipe and see if that works.
Here is what it currently looks like:



Here is how it sounds outside:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJNqAEsnXPU

Here is how it sounds inside:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt23q64FaHk

Thanks for posting those, did you have any drone with the straight pipes while cruising at highway speeds?
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 04:54 PM
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Thanks for posting those, did you have any drone with the straight pipes while cruising at highway speeds?
No Haven't had any drone at all.
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