Weistec M157 W.4 Turbocharger System Overview
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Weistec M157 W.4 Turbocharger System Overview
A brief overview of what is included in the Weistec M157 W.4 Turbocharger System.
The M157 W.4 package is the package for customers seeking the pinnacle of performance and refinement. At the core of the M157 W.4 Package is the M157 W.4 Turbo Upgrade. Taking a giant leap ahead of all other available upgrades, the M157 W.4 Turbochargers completely replace the factory units. They are ball bearing, featuring CNC machined billet aluminum compressor wheels capable of flowing 65lb/min.
If you have any additional questions or would like to place an order please do no hesitate to ask!
Ordering:
Phone:
You can reach us directly by calling 714-202-0005 to place your order over the phone.
Hours of Operations:
Monday - Friday from 8AM to 5PM PST
Saturday & Sunday - Closed
Contact Info:
Phone: 714-202-0005 Ext. 113
Email: Mothman@weistec.com
Website: http://www.Weistec.com
Feel free to contact me via PM, email, or phone if you have any questions[/SIZE]
The M157 W.4 package is the package for customers seeking the pinnacle of performance and refinement. At the core of the M157 W.4 Package is the M157 W.4 Turbo Upgrade. Taking a giant leap ahead of all other available upgrades, the M157 W.4 Turbochargers completely replace the factory units. They are ball bearing, featuring CNC machined billet aluminum compressor wheels capable of flowing 65lb/min.
If you have any additional questions or would like to place an order please do no hesitate to ask!
Ordering:
Phone:
You can reach us directly by calling 714-202-0005 to place your order over the phone.
Hours of Operations:
Monday - Friday from 8AM to 5PM PST
Saturday & Sunday - Closed
Contact Info:
Phone: 714-202-0005 Ext. 113
Email: Mothman@weistec.com
Website: http://www.Weistec.com
Feel free to contact me via PM, email, or phone if you have any questions[/SIZE]
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I asked this a long time ago and suspect i will still be waiting for the answer long after i sell the carfwiw, that 840awhp pureturbo e63 just ran 10.3 @ 130 ... he had a couple other runs with slower ET but higher 137/138 trap
we are still at the crux where throwing more HP at our platform, past ~700awhp, is not returning much incremental performance at the track.... I say this because way back in 2013 renntech already ran similar times(10.6/137) with their turbo upgrade that produces about 140whp less at 700whp
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The 60' is "This is the second thread of the same product in the same section where we learned equal useful info"
The ET is "You'll never get an answer because Weistec is smart and knows they can't break 9's so why bother posting time slips"
And finally, it traps at "Don't waste your money."
First thread here: https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...de-system.html
Funny thing is, I straight up told them I would buy it if I got real data that proves these kits perform as physics says they should (or at least close to) and crickets. Not a reply in thread, not a PM, nothing. My flame for this car has definitely cooled since.
Just more threads with no answers.
The ET is "You'll never get an answer because Weistec is smart and knows they can't break 9's so why bother posting time slips"
And finally, it traps at "Don't waste your money."
First thread here: https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...de-system.html
Funny thing is, I straight up told them I would buy it if I got real data that proves these kits perform as physics says they should (or at least close to) and crickets. Not a reply in thread, not a PM, nothing. My flame for this car has definitely cooled since.
Just more threads with no answers.
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I haven't come across a thread in this section that they have answered anyone's questions. Based upon what I have seen since joining this community I can confidently say I will never buy a product made by them.
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Why won't you sell the turbofolds by themselves? Or atleast make a simpler kit? Turbofolds, downpipes and tune are the power makers, the rest is bloat add-ons that should be optional. Most people don't want their car tuned for meth. The intakes are expensive and offer peanuts regarding horse power per dollar. Additionally bigger turbos typically create cooler air charges then smaller. So if you guys are pushing 18-20 psi with just a tune and stock turbos, and you guys chose your compressors wisely, the larger turbos should make way more power and run cooler air charges at the same pressure. This kit makes you guys seem greedy, honestly.
Not only can you make a great deal of money moving these as a component sale, but you're taking advantage of the eager market here by imposing all the other nonsense. Like politicians ear marking stupid crap to important crap in bills.
wont even touch on the lack of available performance data. I'd guess you guys have a gps and or vbox.
Its not even your fault that the trans hasn't been fully optimized yet. It will come. But to be silent about it is to be complicit in some ****ery - AKA compiling all these parts into this hugely expensive package which has yet to be functionally or practically be utilized.
I hope you guys offer a simpler kit for this product, it has a lot of merit. But this kit is not right, at least not yet with the way this chassis has a large piece of the puzzle missing.
Not only can you make a great deal of money moving these as a component sale, but you're taking advantage of the eager market here by imposing all the other nonsense. Like politicians ear marking stupid crap to important crap in bills.
wont even touch on the lack of available performance data. I'd guess you guys have a gps and or vbox.
Its not even your fault that the trans hasn't been fully optimized yet. It will come. But to be silent about it is to be complicit in some ****ery - AKA compiling all these parts into this hugely expensive package which has yet to be functionally or practically be utilized.
I hope you guys offer a simpler kit for this product, it has a lot of merit. But this kit is not right, at least not yet with the way this chassis has a large piece of the puzzle missing.
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I asked this a long time ago and suspect i will still be waiting for the answer long after i sell the carfwiw, that 840awhp pureturbo e63 just ran 10.3 @ 130 ... he had a couple other runs with slower ET but higher 137/138 trap
we are still at the crux where throwing more HP at our platform, past ~700awhp, is not returning much incremental performance at the track.... I say this because way back in 2013 renntech already ran similar times(10.6/137) with their turbo upgrade that produces about 140whp less at 700whp
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The 60' is "This is the second thread of the same product in the same section where we learned equal useful info"
The ET is "You'll never get an answer because Weistec is smart and knows they can't break 9's so why bother posting time slips"
And finally, it traps at "Don't waste your money."
First thread here: https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...de-system.html
Funny thing is, I straight up told them I would buy it if I got real data that proves these kits perform as physics says they should (or at least close to) and crickets. Not a reply in thread, not a PM, nothing. My flame for this car has definitely cooled since.
Just more threads with no answers.
The ET is "You'll never get an answer because Weistec is smart and knows they can't break 9's so why bother posting time slips"
And finally, it traps at "Don't waste your money."
First thread here: https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...de-system.html
Funny thing is, I straight up told them I would buy it if I got real data that proves these kits perform as physics says they should (or at least close to) and crickets. Not a reply in thread, not a PM, nothing. My flame for this car has definitely cooled since.
Just more threads with no answers.
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Do they really? They have a ton of data for their ECU upgrade:
https://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_u...si_rs6rs7.html
https://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_u...si_rs6rs7.html
APR has a bunch of their guys posting daily and answering question on audizine... weistec.... umm well see above... where the replies ?
APR post CHP and WHP graphs for 91, 93, 100 and 104 oct on all their site and forums ... wesitec... ummm not so much, see above again
APR post track acceleration test for pump and race gase on all their site and youtube... wesitec... ummm not so much
If weistec was like APR no one would be asking for graphs and times as we would already have them
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lol yeah weistec and APR are not even close to comparable in regards to transparency/ input/ interaction with the public,,,,,, and then price lol not even close! there is not one APR turbo kit anywhere close to $22K weistec price.... most of apr's turbo kits are maxing out around $10K
APR has a bunch of their guys posting daily and answering question on audizine... weistec.... umm well see above... where the replies ?
APR post CHP and WHP graphs for 91, 93, 100 and 104 oct on all their site and forums ... wesitec... ummm not so much, see above again
APR post track acceleration test for pump and race gase on all their site and youtube... wesitec... ummm not so much
If weistec was like APR no one would be asking for graphs and times as we would already have them
APR has a bunch of their guys posting daily and answering question on audizine... weistec.... umm well see above... where the replies ?
APR post CHP and WHP graphs for 91, 93, 100 and 104 oct on all their site and forums ... wesitec... ummm not so much, see above again
APR post track acceleration test for pump and race gase on all their site and youtube... wesitec... ummm not so much
If weistec was like APR no one would be asking for graphs and times as we would already have them
Very good points. I actually don't even mind the pricing as much, but just show me what I'm paying for other than fake HP numbers. Sure the kit is capable of 1000+ hp, but is the rest of the car capable? It seems like these cars wouldn't even make half that power (or be able to use half that power) in the lower gears.
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lol yeah weistec and APR are not even close to comparable in regards to transparency/ input/ interaction with the public,,,,,, and then price lol not even close! there is not one APR turbo kit anywhere close to $22K weistec price.... most of apr's turbo kits are maxing out around $10K
APR has a bunch of their guys posting daily and answering question on audizine... weistec.... umm well see above... where the replies ?
APR post CHP and WHP graphs for 91, 93, 100 and 104 oct on all their site and forums ... wesitec... ummm not so much, see above again
APR post track acceleration test for pump and race gase on all their site and youtube... wesitec... ummm not so much
If weistec was like APR no one would be asking for graphs and times as we would already have them
APR has a bunch of their guys posting daily and answering question on audizine... weistec.... umm well see above... where the replies ?
APR post CHP and WHP graphs for 91, 93, 100 and 104 oct on all their site and forums ... wesitec... ummm not so much, see above again
APR post track acceleration test for pump and race gase on all their site and youtube... wesitec... ummm not so much
If weistec was like APR no one would be asking for graphs and times as we would already have them
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^ yep, 670 awhp heavier APR RS7 still spanking 800+awhp lighter M157s 
stage 2 rs7 running 10.3/135 now... stage 2 cost $5K
stage 2 rs7 running 10.3/135 now... stage 2 cost $5K
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You guys don't know APR like the B8 S4 owners do on AZ. They are responsive, but I meant in terms of teasing a kit, and not bringing it to the market or showing any results for years. Go look at stage III kit for 3.0t. LOL
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Teasing a future product is different from not releasing details for a kit that's on the market. There's a major difference.
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I agree. There's a big difference between saying they're working on something, like they did with their RS7 stage 2 tune, and pushing a $22k unproven hardware kit that's only use is showing off at club dyno days and slipping the trans during street use.
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This is exactly what APR did with stage 3 kit. It was on market for sale, and they did not put any solid data or times behind it because they knew this 15K kit with labor was no faster than stage 2 tune only cars. All this after years of teasing, and then months of no info after initial product release. Exactly the same case here. Point is, Weistec is not the first company to release a product without data/info from day 1 of release.
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here's the difference... weistec had new release announcement for this kit 2 years ago!
http://weistec.com/media-events-pres...ec-m157-turbo/
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Even if that's the case, at least they had the integrity to scrap it after realizing the gains weren't there instead of continuing to push the kit and claiming "it will run 9s" but not actually having any results for two years!
