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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 10:50 PM
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My history with my e63 bi turbo upgrade is finish !


I buy e63 2012 3 yrs ago put stage 2 eurocharged really like the car but i buy eurocharged turbo upgrade ... paid the turbo receive turbo after 4 month (maybe 6 it made too much time)and(supposed to be 3weeks)and when i open the box the turbo wheel is damaged
...i resend the turbo and eurocharged resend me abother kit so i install on the car and the turbo broke after 10 mile ... i send the turbo to rebuilt and its ok ... at the end of summer i tune the car 717whp and Store the car right after for the winter ... at the start of the summer i ride 1000km and blow the other turbo ... i have to rebuilt this one too ... i going at the track and the transmission with tcu eurocharged upgrade bugg every time and i cannot beat my stage 2 street tire tune with drag radial tire and upgrade turbo ... and at the 2000km later i accelerate to 280 the car fall too much lean and boom ... thats the engine now









And he inspect the turbo too and he have another one to rebuilt ... so after paid the car 60 and put 10000 turbo upgrAde and 10000 in labor and +- 10000 on turbo repair shipping custom fee and all i sell my car for 30 000$ and lose +- 70000$ for 10 000km ... thats the story of my car ! I going to go with another brand next time and for you guy dont make the same error than me ... if you wAnt a reliable car and more money in your pocket 👍

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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 11:02 PM
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sorry it didn't work out, what's next
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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 11:20 PM
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That's the longest sentence of all time

sorry it didn't work out, what's next
i had stage3 golf r 2017 now
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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 11:34 PM
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I'd rather have a stock e63 with a tune than that golf, but I don't have to drive it. Sorry you had so much trouble.

I think this platform should just be left alone on stock turbo's w/ tune and exhaust. You aren't going to break any records and it has been proven, at least at this point, that this isn't the platform to take to the next level.

That has to sting. Damn.
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 11:53 PM
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Damn, I had been following your other thread. You had a lot of trouble with this car. As far as I'm concerned, I'd would just do downpipes, tune, meth on this platform.. plenty fast for me.

Je te souhaite une meilleure expérience avec tes autres projets !
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 12:27 AM
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Mailhot

I buy e63 2012 3 yrs ago put stage 2 eurocharged really like the car but i buy eurocharged turbo upgrade ... paid the turbo receive turbo after 4 month (maybe 6 it made too much time)and(supposed to be 3weeks)and when i open the box the turbo wheel is damaged
...i resend the turbo and eurocharged resend me abother kit so i install on the car and the turbo broke after 10 mile ... i send the turbo to rebuilt and its ok ... at the end of summer i tune the car 717whp and Store the car right after for the winter ... at the start of the summer i ride 1000km and blow the other turbo ... i have to rebuilt this one too ... i going at the track and the transmission with tcu eurocharged upgrade bugg every time and i cannot beat my stage 2 street tire tune with drag radial tire and upgrade turbo ... and at the 2000km later i accelerate to 280 the car fall too much lean and boom ... thats the engine now









And he inspect the turbo too and he have another one to rebuilt ... so after paid the car 60 and put 10000 turbo upgrAde and 10000 in labor and +- 10000 on turbo repair shipping custom fee and all i sell my car for 30 000$ and lose +- 70000$ for 10 000km ... thats the story of my car ! I going to go with another brand next time and for you guy dont make the same error than me ... if you wAnt a reliable car and more money in your pocket 👍
So what do you think is the maximum yet safe for torque and hp for m157 tuning with all mods that you have put?

I have the same tune +weistec w3 and producing similar to your stage 2. Still cant believe my hybrid turbo cant do better than stage 2 car (tested with my friend's stg2 car too)

At what boost level psi or bar does your car producing?
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 05:31 PM
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Guys you get what you pay for.
going with EC on TT engines ? Lol
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by m1cls63
So what do you think is the maximum yet safe for torque and hp for m157 tuning with all mods that you have put?

I have the same tune +weistec w3 and producing similar to your stage 2. Still cant believe my hybrid turbo cant do better than stage 2 car (tested with my friend's stg2 car too)

At what boost level psi or bar does your car producing?
my stage 3 has 780 wheel torque. I’m running on this tune for more than 30,000 km now.
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 06:42 PM
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wow

im happy i stuck with the amg p30 tune

6 yrs since new 55000 miles


you need to contact my man tasos

thats it
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dav461
Guys you get what you pay for.
going with EC on TT engines ? Lol
Can you elaborate on that?

Why wouldn't you go with EC? They are one of the most reputable Mercedes & AMG tuners on the market.
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dav461
Guys you get what you pay for.
going with EC on TT engines ? Lol

Been with EC on M156 and M157 for many, many miles/years. 0 issues.

Lol.
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 11:00 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
you can find half a dozen threads on this forum and else where ****ting on weistec, renntech ams eurocharged etc etc

and u can find another half dozen praising each of above

theres no concensus, this i stay stock
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kjkidd21
Can you elaborate on that?

Why wouldn't you go with EC? They are one of the most reputable Mercedes & AMG tuners on the market.
One of the most reputable are Brabus and Kleemann.
EC is defo not good at their job with TT E63 , especially when it goes to st3+
Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG
Been with EC on M156 and M157 for many, many miles/years. 0 issues.
Lol.
And what’s your 1/4 time m157 on their st3? LOL
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
wow

im happy i stuck with the amg p30 tune

6 yrs since new 55000 miles


you need to contact my man tasos

thats it
Do you have a contact of tasos? What do you think of my result after using weistec w3, upgraded tranny, custom downpipe and WMI. Resulting in 580whp and 900wtq using dynapack dyno? It is head to head to my friend's stage 2 tuned by pp performance.

Any other ibout is much appreciated
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
wow

im happy i stuck with the amg p30 tune

6 yrs since new 55000 miles


you need to contact my man tasos

thats it
What is a p30 tune? Boost level and afr at? Any dyno graph of this tune?
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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG
Been with EC on M156 and M157 for many, many miles/years. 0 issues.

Lol.
Yeah I have had nothing but good experiences with Eurocharged. They will be tuning my E63S here in a month or so.

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One of the most reputable are Brabus and Kleemann.
EC is defo not good at their job with TT E63 , especially when it goes to st3+

And what’s your 1/4 time m157 on their st3? LOL
I've seen folks post about issues with any and every tuner out there. However, I have seen more satisfied clients with EC than any other tuner.
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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 10:36 PM
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First off - that’s really ****ty, a lot of money, time and headaches. Sorry to hear, I too have followed your old thread.

The rest aside, and nothing but good things to say about EC, how you go from a fine car like the E63 to a goddamn Golf is beyond me. I understand you grew to hate the car, but holy crap!

Wish you the best best of luck!
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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kjkidd21
Yeah I have had nothing but good experiences with Eurocharged. They will be tuning my E63S here in a month or so.



I've seen folks post about issues with any and every tuner out there. However, I have seen more satisfied clients with EC than any other tuner.
because many people have no idea what ecu calibration is. they think sending ecu or doing it on distance throught dealer ( who remaps , check dyno figures and says f*ck off) is fine.
ofcourse that people will have troubles... not properly remapped car will cause headache
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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dav461
One of the most reputable are Brabus and Kleemann.
EC is defo not good at their job with TT E63 , especially when it goes to st3+

And what’s your 1/4 time m157 on their st3? LOL
Don't know, don't have stage 3 and don't quarter mile my car. Just spirited driving and highway pulls. When you tune hundreds or thousands of cars some things are bound to not work out as intended. This being one of those unfortunate cases. It's a ton of power, things will fail.

Had Kleeman tuning causing hell on my first c63, switched to EC, never looked back.

If you want to spend Brabus money, and you're smart, you'll go with GAD.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by m1cls63
Do you have a contact of tasos? What do you think of my result after using weistec w3, upgraded tranny, custom downpipe and WMI. Resulting in 580whp and 900wtq using dynapack dyno? It is head to head to my friend's stage 2 tuned by pp performance.

Any other ibout is much appreciated
when you say your friend on stage 2, do you mean stock turbos with just tune and downpipes?
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 07:27 AM
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I guess you just saved many cars with sharing your experience. If I would modify my car above stage 1, I would consider RENNtech or Weistec. I heard that they are both well reputed manufacturers and tuners. I had a Renntech tune until I took the car for an advanced dyno tune at simon motorsport.
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 6point3er
I guess you just saved many cars with sharing your experience. If I would modify my car above stage 1, I would consider RENNtech or Weistec. I heard that they are both well reputed manufacturers and tuners. I had a Renntech tune until I took the car for an advanced dyno tune at simon motorsport.
only make “in house” tune , I suggest you renntech.
dont send your ecu if you don’t want to be disappointed with race logic times.
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 6point3er
I guess you just saved many cars with sharing your experience. If I would modify my car above stage 1, I would consider RENNtech or Weistec. I heard that they are both well reputed manufacturers and tuners. I had a Renntech tune until I took the car for an advanced dyno tune at simon motorsport.
For AMG cars im pretty sure Eurocharged is just as reputable as they are. They do similar work and make similar power from everything ive read.
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 01:49 PM
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