PeterUbers

Do you think that will change in time? Benz using another company?

chiromikey

I don’t think they’ll quit building transmissions but I think they’ll have to get back to a tq converter automatic in their luxury sedans.

PeterUbers

hey do you think draggy is fairly close to the track in terms of 1/4 mile measures

chiromikey

If it’s got good connection to satellites it’s deadly accurate except for 60ft times.

I ran with Dragy on my roof for one run and here’s my results:

Timeslip:
60ft 1.614
1/8mile 6.761@105.63
1/4mile 10.465@132.15

Dragy:
60ft 1.66
1/8mile 6.77@105.62
1/4mile 10.47@132.26

PeterUbers

Holy *****

chiromikey

Exactly! I’ve never been a fan of vbox and all devices can be susceptible to dishonest people but Dragy is the real deal when used properly.

Savage212

Lmao... so the Audi crowd converted ya hu?

chiromikey

Converted me on platform or on Dragy?

Savage212

To the Dragy! Congrats on the 10's those RS7's are no joke. Do you think the E63 could hold it's own against the RS from a roll? 130 trap is fast, most the E63's are 120's correct?

chiromikey

It wasn’t the Audi crew, I just kept seeing people showing their Dragy with near identical results to timeslips. Vbox was never this accurate. So I trust Dragy now, it’s just people I’m skeptical of! Lol

Thanks! The E63 is definitely better from a roll than it is in the standing 1/4mile. It only runs low 11s but can keep up with a high 10 second car from a roll. I used to think (and hear) that the E63 could beat or at least hang with the RS7 from a roll but after seeing my track results there’s no way (when comparing cars with the same mods). My E63 averaged 125mph through the 1/4mile. The RS7 is 132+.and will get better with practice and if I can run in the same weather I ran the E.

Savage212

Have you done 60-130?

chiromikey

Just what was logged on that run but it seems the consensus is that 60-130 times are better when romping on it from a roll. I honestly have no idea if 7.20 is good or bad or something I should work on...?

Savage212

7.2 is great

PeterUbers

7.2 for a tuned w212 amg is great but not sure for an apr stage 2 rs7.... probably has more in it?

chiromikey

I’ll try a few from a roll over the next few weeks and see what happens.

Amg63-

I still think there is a good chance from a roll the W212 can keep up with RS7. Alot of them are trapping 127-128mph on tune/downpipes but as we know thats because of the torque limiters robbing it of power in the lower gears.

also they run around 7-7.5s for 60-130 so it sounds about the same. Its just the launch that they perform poorly on, it seems.

Celicasaur

Thing is, the trap speed would probably be even slightly higher if the RS7 launched like a W212 I think. As it stand's, the 128mph - 132mph trap tells me that from fourth gear (starting on a second gear roll) the RS7 will start to pull away.

I always thought the 130mph+ traps were on race fuel. On pump fuel sith just a tune and downpipes, that is simply amazing. No other word for it.

chiromikey

Most guys trapping 127-128 are in very good DA. I was around 3000ft. I think the RS7 still has the advantage. Maybe now that E63 guys can start running multiple tunes maybe someone will step up to a race gas tune and show us something better!

chiromikey

I was on race fuel, sorry if I didn’t mention that or it wasn’t clear. It’s too easy to change maps in other platforms not to run good fuel!

Amg63-

Well, if both are stage 2 pump gas, or both stage 2 race gas im just saying from the roll, it should be close.

On pump gas they are doing the 60-130 in around 7 second range, which you did, not sure if that was race gas or pump but either way, sounds close to me. RS7 may pull on a roll but even so i dont think by much.

chiromikey

There’s a tuned E63 that I’m supposed to play with so we’ll find out. I can keep it on the 91 tune to make it apples to apples.

Amg63-

Let us know, keep us posted.

Is it a stage 1 or stage 2 E63? RWD or 4matic model?

chiromikey

All I know right now is tuned 4matic.

Savage212

Yet to try my MS109 map, however it's hard to imagine it having .5 seconds on the 93 map.

chiromikey

Get it to the track! Remember in the beginning when all the tuners promised us mid 10 second E63s on stage 2 only? I’ll put money on it that one-off race fuel tunes is how they got their shop cars into the 10s while the rest of us were stuck with regular tunes running low 11s!