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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 02:29 PM
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Clear Coat on Red Calipers

I understand that flaking of the clear coat on our cars calipers is not too rare. It seems I have a mild case on a couple of wheels.

Just curious if anyone else that had this did anything to rectify it. And if so, what was your remedy?

Car is just out of factory warranty, but not not out of MB ELW. Kinda doubting that it's a warranty item anyway though.

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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 02:57 PM
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This happened to both my front calipers. MB Canada denied a warranty claim, but after some negotiation, they replaced both calipers with brand new ones as a goodwill fix. My car was within the factory warranty when this happened. If they were unwilling to replace them, i would have got them re-cleared by a local paint shop.
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Vrodman
I understand that flaking of the clear coat on our cars calipers is not too rare. It seems I have a mild case on a couple of wheels.

Just curious if anyone else that had this did anything to rectify it. And if so, what was your remedy?

Car is just out of factory warranty, but not not out of MB ELW. Kinda doubting that it's a warranty item anyway though.

Thanks in Advance
i think the problem is damn near pandemic. all of the performance pack AMG's that I looked at suffered from it, to one extent or another. i re-cleared mine a couple weeks ago. ordered some DuPont clear engine enamel and model paint (1103T) to touch up the nicks. came out pretty well...





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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 04:52 PM
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i think the problem is damn near pandemic. all of the performance pack AMG's that I looked at suffered from it, to one extent or another. i re-cleared mine a couple weeks ago. ordered some DuPont clear engine enamel and model paint (1103T) to touch up the nicks. came out pretty well...




Were you able to do the work without removing the calipers? Like removal of wheels only?
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 04:55 PM
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This was after I cleaned the brake dust off...
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Were you able to do the work without removing the calipers? Like removal of wheels only?
yup. Just removed the wheels and taped everything up. Went with 4 coats of clear.
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 04:59 PM
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You will probably have to peel some of the old clear off, as well, as brake dust has gotten underneath the edges...
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 06:21 PM
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Worth seeing if ELW will cover this ... the b2b absolutely has been covering it
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 07:43 AM
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To whomever owns this car:
I would remove those stickers that are sitting on the mounting surface of your wheel.
You see where the made in ITALY one has been smashed by wheel.

What this does it prevent the wheelfrom properly seating unto hub and being flat so tire can get very small wobble.

This surface should always be cleaned when you remove a wheel - in fact I sand mine with 500 to 1000 grit paper to remove any rust or corrosion build up.
Also I will apply high heat never seize very sparingly to these surfaces to prevent corrosion and wheel sticking to hub centric ring.


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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 09:24 AM
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To whomever owns this car:
I would remove those stickers that are sitting on the mounting surface of your wheel.
You see where the made in ITALY one has been smashed by wheel.

What this does it prevent the wheelfrom properly seating unto hub and being flat so tire can get very small wobble.

This surface should always be cleaned when you remove a wheel - in fact I sand mine with 500 to 1000 grit paper to remove any rust or corrosion build up.
Also I will apply high heat never seize very sparingly to these surfaces to prevent corrosion and wheel sticking to hub centric ring.
makes sense. will do!!!
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 02:32 PM
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just found the same thing on one of my front calipers, although to a much less extent than 1maverick.
mine's going in to get the rear hatch motor and parking brake replaced in a couple weeks. will have to ask about the peeling brake caliper as well. stay tuned.
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:10 PM
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i had the same problem on my '14 last year - went to Stevens Creek MB in San Jose showed my advisor and they ordered a new caliper and replaced it under warranty -
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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by baldmike73
i had the same problem on my '14 last year - went to Stevens Creek MB in San Jose showed my advisor and they ordered a new caliper and replaced it under warranty -
Small world!

Who is your advisor there? Mine is Charlie. I will call him and see what they can do. My factory warranty just ended about 3 weeks ago, but I am still under ELW.

I may have seen you around on the streets. lol.
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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 11:27 AM
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i had the same problem on my '14 last year - went to Stevens Creek MB in San Jose showed my advisor and they ordered a new caliper and replaced it under warranty -
wow you are lucky, i took my car to MB here in Ottawa, Canada and they said MB Canada refused to order the new calipers, the car is still under warranty.
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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 02:56 PM
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One of my front caliper is also peeling in several areas and the vehicle is still under the original warranty. I'll have to call the dealer to see if they'll cover it.
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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 05:25 PM
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are the calipers painted or powder coated?
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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 06:28 PM
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I believe they are powder coated for the base red and then clear coated over the top with high temp clear paint. Not 100% positive though. This is an educated guess based on my experience in the auto industry engineering end of things.
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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Vrodman
I believe they are powder coated for the base red and then clear coated over the top with high temp clear paint. Not 100% positive though. This is an educated guess based on my experience in the auto industry engineering end of things.
i would say that youre right as the color bleeds on to your rags when youre washing the part where the clearcoat has peeled...
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 12:18 PM
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Talked to my SA last night and he said the calipers are covered the same under the factory warranty as the ELW. But, he also said the he wasn't sure for paint issues only though. He did say that if they covered someone at their dealership for this as BaldMike said he was, then they can likely get a forman approval to replace them for the paint. In my case that means at least 3 out of 4 !!!
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Old Mar 13, 2019 | 05:44 PM
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wow you are lucky, i took my car to MB here in Ottawa, Canada and they said MB Canada refused to order the new calipers, the car is still under warranty.
same result, albeit from a different dealership. seems mb usa is covering it while mb canada isn't.
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Charlie Fish? He is a good guy - My SA is John Stansbury, but working with him on my last 4 MB's - i have a 14 white wagon lowered on Vessens - don't drive it much as it more a weekend toy - but when i do it does put a grin on my face from ear to ear!!!!

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Small world!

Who is your advisor there? Mine is Charlie. I will call him and see what they can do. My factory warranty just ended about 3 weeks ago, but I am still under ELW.

I may have seen you around on the streets. lol.
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UPDATE:

So my clear coat on the calipers has progressively gotten worse. Now all 4 wheels have a moderate case of it. Also, the exposed areas of the underneath red powder coat have turned orange-ish.

So I dropped off the car yesterday at the dealer for a coolant reservoir leak and service and stated my case regarding the calipers. It's not final yet, but my SA left me a vmail that he thinks he can get them replaced at no cost to me! REALLY crossing my fingers. These guys continue to take great care of me. (remember the new engine 9 months ago?)

So even with all the stuff they are going to do at this visit, he said in his vmail that he noticed my driver's side visor doesn't sit completely flat against the headliner. Says it hangs about a 1/4 inch away. OMG! Can't have that. LOL. SO he is replacing it at no cost. My daughter damaged my cargo tray in the trunk putting her suitcase back there. It's hard to open now. They are replacing that too!

He will be getting a very nice bottle of his favorite spirit no matter the cost if these calipers get replaced!

I will update you when I know for sure the outcome. I think it's just up to the factory rep at this point who is the same guy that approved the new motor.
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Damn! This car is like the Phoenix coming out of the fire in rebirth!!! Seems like it's hit or miss across the country if dealers warranty the calipers
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Damn! This car is like the Phoenix coming out of the fire in rebirth!!! Seems like it's hit or miss across the country if dealers warranty the calipers
Yeah,

I'm guessing it's the newest overall 2015 in the country! lol The list is long on the warranty replacements. They even put in a new steering column right before I bought it.
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Old Sep 26, 2019 | 06:48 PM
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IT’S OFFICIAL

Just heard from my SA. All 4 calipers getting replaced under warranty!!

Only small hitch is 1 of them won’t be available until December. Not a big deal. I’ll just bring it back for that one when it arrives.

I see in my crystal ball a bottle of Don Julio 1942 in my SA’s near future. 😎

So it looks like I may as well roll on the new wheels too.
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